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BJFan99 01-29-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1233753)
Which part of the song is the C5

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The last "IT'S A JUNGLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!".

BJFan99 01-29-2018 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1233750)
Actually 2 almost full screen recordings from this concert exist.

Cool! Could you upload either of them?

And then, back to Sydney - here's the only Hallelujah performance of the BWC tour (from night #2):

https://youtu.be/ZNNvFrRds48

While Jon's vocals are pretty good for the most part, it's truly heartbreaking to hear him run out of air while trying to hold the long note near the end of the song, remembering what he was capable of doing at that part just 2.5 years earlier:

https://youtu.be/KRlAdSTKTEU (Mannheim 2011)

EDIT: The guys also delivered a rousing rendition of Hey God in Mannheim:

https://youtu.be/IX00TId2bHQ

jazzsta 01-29-2018 11:34 PM

perfect performace, 10 years ago :



DavetheGodofKeys 01-29-2018 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzsta (Post 1233758)
perfect performace, 10 years ago :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p5e0KCB36Y

I would have loved if they played Open All Night from the Box set, not from Bounce!

DavetheGodofKeys 01-30-2018 12:01 AM


One of the best performances of Prayer from Jon vocally, as he hits the C5s in the regular choruses and hits the Eb5s in the key change. Towards the end he is out of breath after nailing the first key change ' Ooh we're halfway there, woah- OH livin on a prayer, take my hand and we'll make it I swear woah- OH livin on a prayer ".

BJFan99 01-30-2018 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jazzsta (Post 1233758)
perfect performace, 10 years ago :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p5e0KCB36Y

Here's the same performance from a different angle and in much better sound:

https://youtu.be/R4zlgAyGOoc

DavetheGodofKeys 01-30-2018 12:29 AM


I'm posting this here because I'm bummed they never played it live. Now, I'm sure even back in 1995/96 knew his limits but they played STBI and My Guitar Lies Bleedng which are harder to song. I mean, c'mon man, the only high notes on Hearts Breaking Even are at the end, why did they never play that it when Jon said in an Interview about the tracks on These Days that they really look forward to playing it live?

DavetheGodofKeys 01-30-2018 12:58 AM


Very good performance of Let It Rock. The guys are clearly happy to be playing this one again.

BJFan99 01-30-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1233765)
Bon Jovi Live - Let It Rock - YouTube

Very good performance of Let It Rock. The guys are clearly happy to be playing this one again.

In my opinion, the Paris version was vocally even better/more consistent:

https://youtu.be/qWTR5YOH_5I

That high "...where EVERYbody goes..." at the start of the second verse sounds absolutely immense!

As for another immense vocal performance, here's These Days from Munich 2011 (one of the very few songs - with the others being Always and Bed Of Roses - where Jon honestly sounded decent on at this show):

https://youtu.be/HLT7BQiV75A

Karla Bongiovi 01-30-2018 10:17 PM

I didn't read the whole thread so I may repeat some video.


Richie was amazing in the beginning and he and Jon combined so well.

Kathleen 01-31-2018 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1233772)
As for another immense vocal performance, here's These Days from Munich 2011 (one of the very few songs - with the others being Always and Bed Of Roses - where Jon honestly sounded decent on at this show):

https://youtu.be/HLT7BQiV75A

I am so glad that I was persuaded to join the 2011 tour to Europe. I was tempted in 2008 but ultimately didn't go. 2011 was the prefect time for me and my husband financially and I'm so glad that we went. We saw so many fantastic shows, (7 of them) and we heard so much that we had never heard played here in the US. It still remains the high point for me and I had been a fan for years.

bonjovi90 01-31-2018 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1233774)
I am so glad that I was persuaded to join the 2011 tour to Europe. I was tempted in 2008 but ultimately didn't go. 2011 was the prefect time for me and my husband financially and I'm so glad that we went. We saw so many fantastic shows, (7 of them) and we heard so much that we had never heard played here in the US. It still remains the high point for me and I had been a fan for years.

And that after the dreadful start in Dusseldorf... :D

bonjovi90 01-31-2018 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1233772)

As for another immense vocal performance, here's These Days from Munich 2011 (one of the very few songs - with the others being Always and Bed Of Roses - where Jon honestly sounded decent on at this show):

https://youtu.be/HLT7BQiV75A

These Days was one of a few songs that night where he seemed to actually get into a song. I don't remember Bed of Roses being somehow remarkable other than the failing microphones throughout the song :D He sounded quite strained to me all night long, but pushed hard on the uptempo songs.

Kathleen 01-31-2018 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1233775)
And that after the dreadful start in Dusseldorf... :D

Yeah well, the less said about that, the better LOL. They got a free pass on the first one I was so happy to be there.

Captmorgs 01-31-2018 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1233765)



Very good performance of Let It Rock. The guys are clearly happy to be playing this one again.



There must be a treasure trove of pro shot stuff sitting somewhere.


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DavetheGodofKeys 01-31-2018 04:33 AM


Another good one. Jon hits all the high notes but in the key change - " Woah-OH livin on a prayer " you can hear his voice is already damaged.

jovifan93 01-31-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1233772)
In my opinion, the Paris version was vocally even better/more consistent:

https://youtu.be/qWTR5YOH_5I

That high "...where EVERYbody goes..." at the start of the second verse sounds absolutely immense!

As for another immense vocal performance, here's These Days from Munich 2011 (one of the very few songs - with the others being Always and Bed Of Roses - where Jon honestly sounded decent on at this show):

https://youtu.be/HLT7BQiV75A

Whow, I totally forgot I got to see Let It Rock live (in Paris 2010). Thanks for the reminder! :-)

jovifan93 01-31-2018 10:54 AM

Anyone know what's the difference in this "long" version? And didn't remember Hugh was in that video, did anyone?


Nige 01-31-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1233781)
Anyone know what's the difference in this "long" version? And didn't remember Hugh was in that video, did anyone?

Bon Jovi - Hey God (Long Version) - YouTube

Haven't checked but I think the "long" version is the album version, and the single was the edited shorter version.

BJFan99 01-31-2018 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1233776)
These Days was one of a few songs that night where he seemed to actually get into a song. I don't remember Bed of Roses being somehow remarkable other than the failing microphones throughout the song :D He sounded quite strained to me all night long, but pushed hard on the uptempo songs.

https://youtu.be/mzSW6jB30os?t=6m36s

Jon absolutely nails the last chorus (especially the high note on "...and I wanna BE..."). However, he doesn't bother going for the "ooh, woah-oo-o-ooh, woah, yeah..." part at the end of the song, which - at least for me - implies that he didn't think his voice was up for it that night. Now that I think about it, he probably could have sung that part rather easily back then even with his voice being a bit shot (like it was through most of the gig), but for some reason just wasn't confident enough.

BJFan99 01-31-2018 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1233780)
Whow, I totally forgot I got to see Let It Rock live (in Paris 2010). Thanks for the reminder! :-)

What the f***?

Had you REALLY forgotten about that kind of a once-in-a-lifetime experience?

Shame on you! :D

bonjovi90 01-31-2018 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1233786)
https://youtu.be/mzSW6jB30os?t=6m36s

Jon absolutely nails the last chorus (especially the high note on "...and I wanna BE..."). However, he doesn't bother going for the "ooh, woah-oo-o-ooh, woah, yeah..." part at the end of the song, which - at least for me - implies that he didn't think his voice was up for it that night. Now that I think about it, he probably could have sung that part rather easily back then even with his voice being a bit shot (like it was through most of the gig), but for some reason just wasn't confident enough.

He actually nailed that part quite regularly on the 2010/11 tour. But I don't judge a performance by him reaching a hard note somewhere, the overall experience and feeling count and they weren't there for most of the night.
Mannheim felt like a much better performance, not even to think about Frankfurt three years earlier where he was into the song like hardly on any other post-2000 occassion.

DavetheGodofKeys 01-31-2018 07:12 PM


Probably the best performance of I Believe but what is more impressive is that they performed it in the original key!

Panda 01-31-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1233791)
Bon Jovi - I Believe (Live Count Basie Theatre 1992) - YouTube

Probably the best performance of I Believe but what is more impressive is that they performed it with the original key!

Honestly, I prefer the vocals from Lisbon 2011 or Sydney 2010 oddly. I might be crucified for that comment but

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d191...b38c/tenor.gif

Supersonic 01-31-2018 09:05 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1233788)
He actually nailed that part quite regularly on the 2010/11 tour. But I don't judge a performance by him reaching a hard note somewhere, the overall experience and feeling count and they weren't there for most of the night.
Mannheim felt like a much better performance, not even to think about Frankfurt three years earlier where he was into the song like hardly on any other post-2000 occassion.

Yeah, Munich was easily one of the most boring Bon Jovi shows I've seen. They'd been bigging it up so much and then Jon showed up and went on autopilot/moody bastard mode pretty much the entire show and the band never hit its groove either. That show was about 3 hours long and yet I've seen standard 2 hour American shows that were better than the snoozefest that was Munich 2011.

But oh, that show in Frankfurt. Easily one of the best. Best rendition of These Days since 1996 I think. And Mannheim... The sound on the field was perfect and the band was clearly having a great time. I've never had a Bon Jovi song hitting me like a steamtrain like Hey God did back then.
Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

BJFan99 01-31-2018 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1233796)
Aloha !



Yeah, Munich was easily one of the most boring Bon Jovi shows I've seen. They'd been bigging it up so much and then Jon showed up and went on autopilot/moody bastard mode pretty much the entire show and the band never hit its groove either. That show was about 3 hours long and yet I've seen standard 2 hour American shows that were better than the snoozefest that was Munich 2011.

But oh, that show in Frankfurt. Easily one of the best. Best rendition of These Days since 1996 I think. And Mannheim... The sound on the field was perfect and the band was clearly having a great time. I've never had a Bon Jovi song hitting me like a steamtrain like Hey God did back then. Bon Jovi - Hey god - Mannheim, July 16th, 2011 - YouTube

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Man, you were lucky to be there! I only saw the Helsinki show and afterwards have been mourning over the fact that I don't live in Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal or even Norway instead of Finland (as far as the set lists of the tour went)...

Btw, here's one of my favorite post-2k performances on any song in concert - the acoustic version of These Days from London 2010:

https://youtu.be/nmSqcDvyFtE

Jon's vocals are amazing. And those harmonies, goddammit, those harmonies... what do you think about that one, Seb?

Actually, I don't remember you complaining about anything else but the set lists during the whole year '10 - not even about Jon's voice! :D Of course, I wasn't a Jovitalk member back then yet, but I've read all those concert threads (of pretty much every year/tour) through, and you were exceptionally positive on the Circle tour - as were most others, too. God, how I wish Jon had maintained those '08-'11 pipes of his... I mean, the guy could've sung pretty much any song in the BJ catalogue decently (at least) back then! Why he didn't even attempt My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms at the O2 is beyond me - if he was able to nail Let It Rock and STBI the way he did, he probably wouldn't have struggled that much on MGLBIMA either.

While (again) mourning over the fact that Jon can't sing well anymore, let's try to forget about the sad reality by taking another trip down the memory lane and revisit the F***ING AMAZING version of Bed Of Roses from the second night of the O2 run:

https://youtu.be/7HVykpwP5N8

That last "...on a BEEEEED of naaaaails..." sounds heavenly. Where the hell did that guy disappear within the following three (!!!) years? I'm obviously aware of all the theories displayed on these boards, but I still can't help being confused while having read all the comments you guys have made about these things many times... damn, I miss the real Jon. I think we all do.

DavetheGodofKeys 01-31-2018 11:23 PM


One of the best performances of MGLBIMA. Man, listen to those harmonies in the chorus, I miss hearing them these days(no pun intended).

BJFan99 01-31-2018 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1233800)
Bon Jovi - My guitar lies bleeding in my arms(live)-19-05-96 - YouTube

One of the best performances of MGLBIMA. Man, listen to those harmonies in the chorus, I miss hearing them these days(no pun intended).

Actually, in my opinion it's nowhere close to any of the best versions. This (for instance) is far superior:

https://youtu.be/7HVykpwP5N8

DavetheGodofKeys 02-01-2018 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1233801)
Actually, in my opinion it's nowhere close to any of the best versions. This (for instance) is far superior:

https://youtu.be/7HVykpwP5N8

Did you intend to post the link for BOR? I was talking about MGLBIMA.

bonjovi90 02-01-2018 12:35 AM

People tend to hype Yokohama because it's the only quality show available from the the These Days tour - yet it was one of their worst performances of 1996. The band pretty much had an off-night and Richie's guitar solo on My Guitar actually sounded quite horrendous for his 1996-standards.

Walleris 02-01-2018 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1233804)
People tend to hype Yokohama because it's the only quality show available from the the These Days tour - yet it was one of their worst performances of 1996. The band pretty much had an off-night and Richie's guitar solo on My Guitar actually sounded quite horrendous for his 1996-standards.

What next??? Are you gonna tell us that Wembley wasn't the best Bon Jovi show of 1995. let alone ever???

On a serious note, totally agree.

bonjovi90 02-01-2018 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1233806)
What next??? Are you gonna tell us that Wembley wasn't the best Bon Jovi show of 1995. let alone ever???

On a serious note, totally agree.

Well, if you push it like that - yes :D
Wembley night 2 was among their best of 1995, night 3 wasn't.

bonjovi90 02-01-2018 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1233792)
Honestly, I prefer the vocals from Lisbon 2011 or Sydney 2010 oddly. I might be crucified for that comment but

I actually agree as far as liking post-93 performances of I Believe more than the ones from the KTF tour. My favourites are Odense 1995 with the insane ad-libs and Berlin 2000 where he sounded extremly well for post-90's standards:



bonjovi90 02-01-2018 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1233796)
Aloha !



Yeah, Munich was easily one of the most boring Bon Jovi shows I've seen. They'd been bigging it up so much and then Jon showed up and went on autopilot/moody bastard mode pretty much the entire show and the band never hit its groove either. That show was about 3 hours long and yet I've seen standard 2 hour American shows that were better than the snoozefest that was Munich 2011.

But oh, that show in Frankfurt. Easily one of the best. Best rendition of These Days since 1996 I think. And Mannheim... The sound on the field was perfect and the band was clearly having a great time. I've never had a Bon Jovi song hitting me like a steamtrain like Hey God did back then. Bon Jovi - Hey god - Mannheim, July 16th, 2011 - YouTube

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Yeah, I remember being blown away by Hey God as well! Especially after the trainwreck that Dusseldorf had been 3 days prior it seemed like a different band.
Sometimes the shows where you don't expect much are the best. For instance, I didn't have high hopes for Dresden since shows in East Germany had always been rather poor, but it blew Munich out of the water.
Munich's been overrated since they did the mindblowing shows in 2001 and 2003. I wasn't there in 2006, but 2008 also wasn't anything to write home about. Jon had blown out his vocals with a great Always rendition early and and from then on there was only Hey God and mostly autopilot for the rest of the night.

DavetheGodofKeys 02-01-2018 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1233804)
People tend to hype Yokohama because it's the only quality show available from the the These Days tour - yet it was one of their worst performances of 1996. The band pretty much had an off-night and Richie's guitar solo on My Guitar actually sounded quite horrendous for his 1996-standards.

The solo wasn't that bad, the only bad thing was the last note sounds quite... well I actually don't play guitar but it just doesn't sound right.

jovifan93 02-01-2018 10:20 AM

Hmm, I thought Munich 2011 was a great show, but then, yeah Dresden was much better, although shorter. The sound even was better (not so loud/distorted), and then we got Undivided, etc.

jovifan93 02-01-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1233787)
What the f***?

Had you REALLY forgotten about that kind of a once-in-a-lifetime experience?

Shame on you! :D

Shit happens ;-) It's been 8 years and I'm 40 now, so... what were we talking about? :-D

jovifan93 02-01-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1233800)
Bon Jovi - My guitar lies bleeding in my arms(live)-19-05-96 - YouTube

One of the best performances of MGLBIMA. Man, listen to those harmonies in the chorus, I miss hearing them these days(no pun intended).

Good performance, but they totally f*cked up the switch to the solo and there were quite a few bum notes in the chorus before that...

steel_horse75 02-01-2018 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1233808)
I actually agree as far as liking post-93 performances of I Believe more than the ones from the KTF tour. My favourites are Odense 1995 with the insane ad-libs and Berlin 2000 where he sounded extremly well for post-90's standards:

Bon Jovi - I Believe (Midtfyns Festival / Odense 1995) - YouTube

Bon Jovi - I Believe (Berlin 2000) - YouTube

Love this song and cant believe (No pun!) its not played live anymore.
Maybe he cant sing it anymore but id rather this than anything off LH, TC or THINFS

steel_horse75 02-01-2018 12:47 PM

Something to Believe in acoustic 2003

https://youtu.be/nXFtz4RjTT0?t=143


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