Id Die For You Accoustic 1996

Never say goodbye acoustic 1990

In my top 5 Jovi songs and ive never seen it live - Wild Is The Wind

Runaway Phili 1990


So good live.

Yeah and Undivided is one of the most personal songs for me (always been in the top-3) and is deeply connected to the time when my dad had fallen seriously ill. Dresden was the first concert ever that just he and I did together and then this song came on for the only time in Germany in the past 15 years. It was really tremendous!

Also in my top-5 songs and to this day I still can't believe that I had gotten to finally hear it in Cologne after 10 years of having chased it. With Richie gone I didn't give it a snowball's chance and then all of a sudden Jon kept asking Phil if he was ready for it and could pull it off and then they did this one.
This Wild Is The Wind performance was Phil's best guitar work on a Jovi song up to that date in June 2013 (haven't followed all the performances afterwards close enough to judge any further).

I ****ing love this thread.

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What a great experience man!! Thanks for sharing!

Yeah...this is the best thread!!

Wow, I had no idea they ever did this in original key! And not only that, but Jon goes long on the "Aaaaaai believe" on the chorus, just like the chorus. Absolutely mindblowing performance.

Although it is not hard to tell why this was downtuned in later performances - even at Jon's absolute vocal apex it was not easy for him to sing it!

Thanks for sharing this!

https://youtu.be/uB9PfeZcdgQ

Good version of I Believe from 1993

It's more a case of sustaining his voice over a 2 hour+ concert and multiple show tours rather than him not being able to do it for one song. Obviously I mean 1993 Jon by that.

If he tries to sing it on the 2018 leg of the tour, he'll sound even worse than 2015.

Oops... no, I meant to post a MGLBIMA performance from Austria '96, but I had the BOR link open at the same time and accidentally put it on two different posts. This is the video I meant to post originally:

https://youtu.be/7T3RhHArKdw

Shit happens, eh? :D

Good show with a great setlist, Jon even does one of th high screams in the key change of Prayer.

And here's the video itself:

https://youtu.be/n_JsDZ3jAcQ

WTF????? Tokyo Road performed in 1995???

Was Jon on weed or something? I know, it's a Japan show, but still...

Here's the Atlantic City '06 show:

https://youtu.be/z_ttxAIix14

Holy shit, Jon sounded awesome on HAND! Definitely one of the best live versions of the song I've ever heard. Btw, Radio works surprisingly well as the third song of the set.

The full Nashville '17 show:

https://youtu.be/Rx5wCsQEpDI

Jon sounds really bad. REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BAD.

During the (low-pitched) verses of Roller Coaster he struggles mightily to control his tone and his voice cracks plenty of times.

On Who Says his voice is so weak it's laughable.

His voice cracks pretty audibly on the first chorus of Blood On Blood.

He grips the mic stand during the choruses of Because We Can (!!!) and actually runs out of breath a couple of times - I MEAN, ON F***ING BWC!!!!!

Wanted is vocally a joke - and a poor one at that. Prayer isn't any better.

That must be the worst show I've ever heard from the band in terms of Jon's vocals. Christ, even Vegas '12, Tampere/Madrid/Brisbane '13 and Seoul '15 were better, and they were atrocious as well...

As a whole, I so wish that the THINFS tour never happened. 34 shows in, we've gotten TEN shows that have honestly been good - and still, none of them have come anywhere close to the level of even the more mediocre shows of any previous tour (save maybe for the Japan + Australia legs in 2013).

The good/"good" shows of the tour so far have been:

* Phoenix
* LA/Inglewood
* St. Paul
* Philadelphia
* Toronto (both nights)
* MSG (both nights)
* Rio
* Sao Paulo

10 out of 34. That makes 24 mediocre/poor/f***ing horrible gigs.

Compare this to the 2011 European tour, where out of all the 23 shows, 19 were good (at least), one was mediocre (Horsens, but that was only due to the uninteresting set list, which was a result of Jon's knee injury), two were quite poor (Munich and Zurich - the first because of Jon's largely below-par vocals and the second because of the horrendous set list) and one was very poor (Dusseldorf, where pretty much everything went more or less wrong).

Anybody notice the difference?

https://youtu.be/ci9doTyxqlI

I certainly do, and I can't help feeling sad about it. I know it's not Jon's fault, but still...

Jon is a shadow of the performer he once was. His voice is mostly embarrassing now, his stage presence all but gone. It’s actually sad to see and worse to hear. I cringe at the thought of him performing certain songs.

But I’m still a fan. Weird. Maybe it’s like supporting a football team that more often than not loses. You hope for the best but accept those moments are few and far between.



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Same for me. Actually, I think the real Jon doesn't even exist anymore - y'know, that guy who made his last appearance at the Hyde Park in London on July 5, 2013:

https://youtu.be/VNtLjw1DKsM

Ladies and gentlemen, that was probably the last time Jon actually SANG a song live. As sad as it is to admit, that noise coming out of his mouth during the songs nowadays can't be called singing (with few-and-far-between exceptions happening every now and then, such as BOR and LYHOM in Rio '17).

I'd love to know what Seb thinks about that Nashville show... :D

Tokyo Road was also played in 1993 in Japan. It was only from the Bounce tour onwards that the song actually got ignored (with the odd exception in Honolulu 2010).

Jon's voice also had a surprise appearance during the second part of Always from Brisbane 2013.

Thanks for the reminder! Yes, it did - and I really don't know how that was possible, as he sounded absolutely terrible during the show in general. That said, his high "Ain't nobody LEFT but us..." part on TD was unexpectedly strong as well:

https://youtu.be/FSuITJ9I-AU?t=5m34s

This is the best damn thread anywhere in the internet.

Of course it is. I've always said that's the case.

Should I stop supporting Liverpool because we lost to Swansea & West Brom? Arguably the two worst teams in the premier league currently. Of course not! Why? Because the week before, we smashed the champions and the best team in the league.

Should I stop supporting the band because Jon sounds like ass on songs live? No. Why? Because 'This House Is Not For Sale' is, in my opinion, a solid album. I also still watch Rock In Rio show from the other month. Was it perfect? No. But it's still shown me glimpses of the band/Jon gaining confidence and sounding better than he did on previous shows. 'Lay Your Hands On Me' and 'Keep The Faith' with the walk down the middle with Phil X and then Shanks are small mini moments that make me smile. Sounds ridiculous but I watch stuff like that and love it.

I get that people go off things. I'm probably not as big a fan as I used to be, in terms of excitement for shows etc.. but they're still my band.

You, Jeeper, know more than most how critical I can be of the band [emoji23] - I'll always support them, though. Just like I'd still support Liverpool if they got relegated.

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Same for me, good analogy with the football team.

Considering I Believe: does anybody else find the keyboards too high in the mix compared to the studio version? That's always bothered me, as in the studio version, it's mainly about the guitars and the keyboard is in the background. Live, it just sounds off for that reason. Same for Born To Follow. Only in 2017 did they got the sound of that one almost right...

I was at this gig and I thought it great. I wasnt expecting much after Richie had left but they were excellent that day.

Same.

Im super critical of the band now because the first 6 albums and live performances meant the bar was raised so f*cking high no one was getting near them.
Nowadays - meh - I really dislike THINFS album like the last few albums really. Getting all the albums on Vinyl really brought home how patchy there are as its harder to skip tracks as you have to keep getting up!
Part of me is proud their still going part of me thinks they should've called it day a few years ago. The albums have become so watered down and flooded with filler. The live act isn't the same. I love Phil X but I cant get on-board with Shanks (the man who imo has destroyed the band) and the dude playing bongos and shaking a metal thing filled with rice. Thats NOT Bon Jovi - just like it wasn't Guns N Roses in 92 with the female backing singers, the dude on the sax and playing a triangle - especially after the immense gig on 91 at Wembley. Glad they've stripped it back now.
Guess all that crap started on the Lost Highway tour with the violin and bobby bollox whatever his name was.
I love being in a Jovi time warp from start to 2003. Anything half decent after is a bonus.

This, alongside the Rio one, was probably the best vocal performance Jon pulled off on BOR last year:

https://youtu.be/WvJHCdHQInA

If you wonder why I don't consider it to be the Sao Paulo rendition, Jon's voice was quite hoarse there (although he went for the "Oo-ooh, woah-oo-o-ooh..." part at the end of the song, unlike anywhere else). Both here and in Rio he sounded much smoother.

As a whole, the LYHOM performance of the same show was probably both Jon's and the band's best since Frankfurt 2008:

https://youtu.be/K63T9ekcKYI

Those two (!!!) high "Lay my hands on YOOOOOUUUUU..." parts sounded amazing - by Jon's post-mid-2013 standards, of course.

Also, I think this version of These Days was better (in terms of Jon's vocals - otherwise Sao Paulo definitely takes the cake) than other '17 performances of the song, even though he dodged the last high part here:

https://youtu.be/GJUtPzhjRys

Jon managed to reach (although briefly) unexpectedly many of the high notes on the last two choruses. Maybe him varying the phrasing of some lines helped him control his breathing and therefor also his range better than usually?

This is the way I feel, too, Jeeper. I still love and support Jon and the band. I like both new albums (BB and THINFS, with the bonus songs) and wish they would do more of those in their shows. I can usually enjoy the new songs in the live performances, but the classics leave a lot to be desired. For that 'fix' I typically find myself playing videos from happier times.

I won't pretend that I'm a huge fan of the current lineup or that Jon's voice is all that I miss. Not by a long shot. But even with the changes, Jon's vocal struggles, and the MIA guitarist, Bon Jovi is still my band and I still look for the best from them; just like I still look for the best every time I hear something new from Richie and RSO.

I guess maybe I really am an eternal optimist. :)

The passion was out of this world:

My favourite performance of this song. Jon almost goes 'opera-esque' on some notes haha.

Just the passion, delivery, emotion etc that is put into this performance. I love that show as a whole.

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That's a very interesting way of describing it. I'm really fascinating about his vocal improvement in 2008, because he never 'recovered' his voice, he just learned a new way to sing and thus expanded his range to 2000-2001 levels.

When I first saw the 2008 performances of Blood Money, the way Jon sang the high notes ("This ain't about me"), I also thought that his is how tenors sing in musicals in operas.

He probably was tought to sing this way to be more sustainable, but we all know how that went.

Jon just tours now to keep the $ coming in for the football team. He still wants to buy one.
Thats why WAN was put out and toured so quick after The Circle.

That Frankfurt show was such a strange experience. After Munich (where his voice had gone shit before they were halfway into the show) my PC had broken down and I went to Frankfurt without knowing how crazy the setlists had developped and how his voice had improved.
The show started so damn poor with the sound being everywhere (no one knows why the roof got closed since it was a great sunny day) and us hearing it three times for the price of one. Jon was so moody throughout the first few songs and I thought "this will be over rather fast tonight".
Then something happened to him and it felt like he was determined to overcome all the technical difficulties and show everyone how it's done. It was the first (only?) time that they did a reprise of Mercy and the end of Sleep and from then on the tides turned. I couldn't believe where his voice came from, but it wasn't even at its peak during Bed of Roses (though I think he has never done the rasp on "I got nothin' to prove..." in almost 2 decades). When they entered KTF I thought that was trying to literally sing the roof off the arena and Richie tore the solo to pieces!
The coolest thing was Jon sayin' "and this building sounds like shit! I hope it sounds better down there than in our monitors".
And, as Seb rightly pointed out a few pages earlier in this thread, the encores had pretty much the best Damned and These Days performances in a long time with no moody vocals anywhere but him going for everything.

Bon Jovi fan and an Everton fan. God clearly hates me [emoji23]


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I'm really confused about how Jon was even able to lose his capability of using that technique, as it obviously was intended (and therefor probably thought as well) to be sustainable.

Was it so taxing that his cords simply gave out?

Did he forget how to use it?

Did he try to create a new technique to replace it by himself (without the help of a vocal coach), but didn't succeed and therefor contributed to some kind of additional vocal damage that has affected his post-'11 performances?

Did the '13 stress somehow make him permanently incapable of using it?

The “my band” comment sums it up perfectly. When I was growing up I honestly believed NOBODY loved them more than me. Now, I realise most of us on this board probably felt that way at one point or another.


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Yep, Frankfurt was an amazing show. Btw, Jon also did the raspy part on BOR at least in Montreal...

https://youtu.be/82acSuetx8U?t=5m31s

...Philadelphia...

https://youtu.be/y6_E_PNfLhI?t=6m6s

...Dallas...

https://youtu.be/wiYfWxyTodU?t=5m36s

...and Chicago 2010:

https://youtu.be/C35QnjJZbY0?t=2m34s

Here's the These Days rendition (for about the tenth time on this thread):

https://youtu.be/bdDEHZeQdD0

Jon completely f***s up the "Ain't nobody left but us..." part, but the energy and passion he puts into the performance as a whole is stunning. However, in terms of his vocals, there are many better ones from 2010-11 - with the best example (at least for me) being this:

https://youtu.be/gooaY45jvcM

He really hits EVERY SINGLE NOTE - including ALL the "Oh no no's" on ALL the choruses - and even goes for an extra "Ain't nobody left but us..." at the end of the song, which is something I don't remember him having done anywhere else but in Vancouver 2011 in addition to the version above:

https://youtu.be/2zbrHMnd9m8

EDIT: The guys also delivered an amazing rendition of STBI in Vancouver. Even though it wasn't quite as epic as the Sydney one, the last long note was incredible, and Jon turning around to cough afterwards was a priceless moment!

https://youtu.be/Ua2DuvzmAyA

The band performed Bad Name and IML too but I'm too tired to post them here now. What is nice about this performance is that Dave's and Richie's mics are too high and they can be heard loud and clear. On the " Hold on to what we've got" part they sings like they're just one person because of how loud their mics are. You can hear David clearly hitting the notes on the choruses. I wonder if there is a full version of this...