Rolo...you are the man! Thanks for finding and posting. I watched all of it.


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I thought the same about WWWB. Never a song I loved but enjoyed this acoustic version.


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Thanks, Rolo - you really are the man! :D

That will be the best set list (with rare songs) of the entire THINFS tour. And to my dismay, it's a JBJ and Friends Show from Runaway Tours.

Actually this was a benefit concert for the Flood Sisters Kidney Foundation.


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Muchas gracias rolo :p

I actually enjoyed it. So much that I listened to the whole thing (minus Amen of course). The acoustic shows have returned to a point where they are enjoyable again. I loved loved loved IWDYH. The backing vocals fit the song like a globe.

And now some shallow observations too. Jon looks great in that suede (I think, lightning is awful) biker jacket and I always like how classy and sexy Lorenza looks at the same time. I enjoy her parts too and think they really add to the songs in this kind of environment

Agree with you on all. I actually did listen to Amen even though I don't like the song at all, never have!

don't want to sound a bit pessimist..but what i see here is somebody that might have some physical problems...this ain't about smoke or confidence or vocal coaching problems

No, it's obviously because of the stress of Richie leaving 5 years ago... :rolleyes::mrgreen:

This guy articulates my opinion to a tee.

Already been posted by me... (about a month ago... Scroll up)

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His takedown of New Years Day is killing me. "I'm saying Carpe Diam, I'm saying Seize the day. IT'S THE SAME THING. YOU SAID THE SAME THING JUST IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE" I am laughing so hard.

Uh yeah things can be posted more than once.

Ummm Yeah and things can be pointed out if just recently shared/discussed.

To be fair though - videos get re-posted here all the time again.
This is just because you had brought the review up in the first place and you and Erik have a problem with each other.

You all automatically think that's why... but the fact that I just posted that same video three weeks ago and if was already discussed deserves a quick mention... but OMG if someone posts a duplicate thread around here... Every Mod and their mother go ape shit...

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Thanks for posting AND re-posting (see, it's not that difficult)

Did this dude miss the point of the album on purpose?

That's not to say he's not right almost completely. I had pretty much the same reaction to most of the songs, almost verbatim (I should become a youtuber, I'm prettier-than him at least- and snarkier and I make crazy faces when I'm ranting). Yes, when analyzed in a vacuum you can see all the flaws and very little positive.

I do like the album but the regular version is weak, which is why I can't rate it over Crush, Bounce or HAND (quality-wise it's worse than LH but I don't like that album, as much as I'd want to). I agree with this guy regarding the 12-track version but without the context what he's saying makes as much sense as some of the lyrics.

Edit: And the expectations he has about the band (how they could sound) are so unrealistic that it's pointless. He was expecting something radically different from TC in 2016 after being a huge fan for years, like really? *shrugs*

WWWB sounds nice in this arrangement

Jon struggles mightily with it, though. He seems to be unable to even do the "when we were beau-ti-ful" part like he could even back in December 2013, let alone earlier.

I still can't understand how the high-pitched songs such as Keep The Faith, Bed Of Roses, Lay Your Hands On Me and Blood On Blood sound so much better than these easy ones.

Breathing problems, right side of wrong for example would bè much more difficult to him than bor

This was the most I've enjoyed BJ in the last 5 years I guess. Yeah he struggles, but the harmonies are great and the songs seem more sincere that way.

Yeah same here :-) Thumps Up

Totally agree Dominic.

Love the guitar sound.

Aloha !

I might be wrong here, but reading your post you're making it sound as if Bon Jovi's THINFS has deep layers and needs to be put into the right context in order to enjoy it? What context might that be?

The album is just very bland, there's no depth to the lyrics, it's just a bunch of cliches strung together and then Jon subsequently pretending to be some poet during the promo's by saying there's a lot going on in the lyrics. Clearly loads of fans fall for that nonsense and actually believe the bullshit he comes up with, but the absolute lack of emotion on the album, both in the lyrics and in the music winds up killing the album completely.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Good to see you are on the more positive side. I think the whole album is a turd and it is no bette than WAN although I’ll drive you home is a masterpiece.

In my opinion, lyrics don't make a great song or album... Does Bad Medicine or Lay You Hands On Me have great lyrics with depths... No... It's all in the vocal delivery and production...

Bang A Drum is one of my favorite songs on Blaze but the duet country version is pure shit... Same lyrics but shitty production and vocal delivery by both Jon and Chris...

I think THINFS was a step in the right direction... If they could somehow combine the best of both studio and live versions, the album could even be better...

I always say when we get new music, are we getting the TLFR versions of potentially great songs?

I mean if the 1990 version of Jon sang on THINFS, it would have more passion, different production, which would ultimately change the entire structure of certain songs...

Steel Hearts, I'll Never Let You Go is a great song because the guy sings the shit out of it and no other reason...

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Well, yes and no. Analyzing things in a vacuum can invalidate an argument. It doesn’t make the argument false, but cherry-picking the examples that fit what you want to say and leaving out what could weaken your argument is lazy. Imagine if you read a review of a BJ fan that didn’t listen to modern Top40 music and they were gushing about how the band created a never-before heard sound with Bounce or HAND, or that they were astonished at the genius idea that BJ had when they decided to delve into country music because no rock band had ever tried to crossover into that, and those fans wouldn’t even mention WSYCGH as a factor.
If the guy had said “Well, according to Jon, after all the pain and heartache he suffered due to Richie leaving, trouble with the label and the failure of the Buffalo Bills bid, he had a lot to say and he would bare his soul on this record, but honestly that’s a bunch of crap and the lyrics are as generic as they come” I’d say he has a point and I do agree with most of it, even though I like the album. But he would've made his point across in a fair way.

Lyric quality and “depth” it’s absolutely personal. You can acknowledge that a lyric is shit but it means something to you for whatever reason and that’s as valid as liking a Bob Dylan lyric. It is valid to like it without acknowledging it is shit, as long as you don’t try to cram your opinions down other peoples throat or get upset when somebody points it out. You are entitled to your own (shitty or else) opinions.
My father was a teen when the Beatles broke big and because he had 0 knowledge of English, he enjoyed those first songs. Over the years his obsession grew and he got tons of material to helped him understand the lyrics and the evolution of the band (lyrically and musically), but he never reneged of the first albums. Why would he, there were memories attached to them. I used to mock my dad growing up because I thought those lyrics were ridiculous and childish and how the hell are they considered the best band in history! But it is hypocritical because I do like many shitty songs so *shrugs*

My connection to THINFS is personal, not in the sense that I’ve gone through things described in the album but in a “I can’t explain it, it is how I feel about it and that’s enough for me”. I shouldn't like some of the songs because of their style or the lyrics or whatever, but the album works for me as a whole. More than LH which has better music and better lyrics but I can’t connect to it at all (I’m choosing LH as an example because it is also “based on personal experiences”).

Living with the Ghost was the most played song on my Spotify in 2017, i can really relate to the lyrics, although could it be better with a ´not so WAN` sound of guitar

I´m also fond of Drive You Home and i like few others in different degrees.

Sometimes it´s the rhythm that connects you to a song, sometimes it´s the lyrics and sometimes the vocals. When it´s all connected, it´s a ****ing masterpiece.

This is how good they were !
 

https://youtu.be/s-kbNZe4q-w

Lucky enough to see them in the early years, this is how it's done !

Brings back great memories

Or it's not a masterpiece but it moves you. And that's enough ;)

If Jon wrote the songs he likes, not the ones that could a chance at a commercial run, we wouldn't have *lyrics* like the ones in WWBTF, WAN, Knockout etc (to select a few of the most egregious ones). We'd have a BB meets DA kind of album that would tank, of course, but I'd bet anything I have it'd be decent, varied, personal and well crafted album. People always complain "Jon sucks at choosing the singles" and are convince that "a solo acoustic album would be his best ever" or something, but then you see the acoustic shows and the songs he chooses are those album cuts that could never be singles and at the same time they not acoustic-types. Those are the songs were Jon has put some thought on because they were not some throwaway simple tunes for the radio he wrote while watching some football on the TV.

That negates your argument by the laws of logic and statistic ;)

Agree about IWDYH. The weird robot voices that some complained about (well almost everybody), fit the song in the album imho and sound fantastic acoustic. Great great great song.
What about Color Me In? I'm enjoying the acoustic version a lot. I think Real Love would sound great acoustically too. Blind Love is super bland in the album but I remember it made for a solid performance.

I was wrong, I have to admit. I didn't believe that Jon would sell an acoustic performance again. His voice and attitude were no longer suited for this kind of environment and it made me roll my eyes every time someone asked for an acoustic break in the middle of a show.

I still wouldn't pay to see this. The setlist is 20% meh and 30% I hate this song. But the ones I enjoy, I'm enjoying them without finding any faults.

Just because I was remembering about this crazy gig!

Yeah, that show was totally insane! I remember reading the setlist of this show from setlist.fm back in the day (at that time I wasn't even aware of Jovitalk yet, let alone a member) and basically thinking "what the f*ck has gone into them...?????". :D Even back then I knew that the USA didn't get songs like Hey God or Living In Sin very often. Combined with some of the sets the band delivered in Europe the following summer (especially the last three shows), I was pretty much on a BJ high for the whole of '11.

Then came the Mohegan Sun gig in February 2013... and damn, did that hurt.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bon-j...t-3dbcd9b.html

Up to this day, I haven't seen a worse setlist from them.

This setlist isn't so bad. It's got Wild Is The Wind, Water, WWWB and SIBSN. For me, this is worse:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bon-j...-73e6b659.html

No, it's not. It's got LYHOM.

LYHOM is one of the songs where I just wait for it to finish live most of the time. Maybe because I've heard it too many times live.
Anything with Wild Is The Wind is appreciated for me. That being said, I don't really count the February concert at Mohegan Sun as an official one for comparison since they just did it for the ones who were locked in at the hotel because of the blizzard.

Any live performances of Captain Crash where Jon sang the song happily like he did on the album version?

Is this a trick question?

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