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BJFan99 04-17-2018 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239302)
Since I had already gotten PMs on why my whole channel (hAnD90) is down:

The story behind this are a couple of conversations with fans recently that have been, let's say, quite far over the edge.
To give you one background story: There have been a couple of fans who were quite insistent on what they want as an upload and what not and they kept sending PMs like "Why U upload that? I said we want xy...". I'm not one to ignore these messages, but kept discussing this stuff in a polite way in the beginning, until it got more and more unfriendly. I explained in more than one case that I'm doing this for fun and as a hobby (some actually really thought I'd earn my living with this account) and that I'd only do it as long as I'd enjoy it.
One person actually (similar to how some conversations in the forum are) got really unfriendly because I wouldn't focus on doing shows after Richie's departure. Another one told me that they wanted Rio 1990 remastered and I explained that this is basically not possible due to the bad soundboard and video mix. The answer was that I'd better not waste my time on this if I wasn't capable of doing the job.
The one that took it over the edge was a user who replied to my explanation of doing it just for the fun that I'd be in no position to discuss because they are the ones that watch (ironically always using the plural while it's probably just one) and I'd depend on them, because I wouldn't have any other option. I replied that I can take the videos/channel down anytime and the answer was: "haha sure no one has balls to do that on their channel." Well, I did.

I'm not too happy on it because I think many really enjoy watching it, but it's a phenomenon I've also noticed on JT more and more. People get extremly insulting if they don't get what they want, or if someone expresses a different point of view.
If it had only been one user, I wouldn't have taken action, but during this Hall of Fame period some really seemed to lose their heads.
Maybe some will re-think their attitude now.
That's very sad. I really hope it's just a temporary move, but if it's permanent, I'd like to thank you for releasing all those great videos. I'll really miss watching them.

DavetheGodofKeys 04-17-2018 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239302)
Since I had already gotten PMs on why my whole channel (hAnD90) is down:

The story behind this are a couple of conversations with fans recently that have been, let's say, quite far over the edge.
To give you one background story: There have been a couple of fans who were quite insistent on what they want as an upload and what not and they kept sending PMs like "Why U upload that? I said we want xy...". I'm not one to ignore these messages, but kept discussing this stuff in a polite way in the beginning, until it got more and more unfriendly. I explained in more than one case that I'm doing this for fun and as a hobby (some actually really thought I'd earn my living with this account) and that I'd only do it as long as I'd enjoy it.
One person actually (similar to how some conversations in the forum are) got really unfriendly because I wouldn't focus on doing shows after Richie's departure. Another one told me that they wanted Rio 1990 remastered and I explained that this is basically not possible due to the bad soundboard and video mix. The answer was that I'd better not waste my time on this if I wasn't capable of doing the job.
The one that took it over the edge was a user who replied to my explanation of doing it just for the fun that I'd be in no position to discuss because they are the ones that watch (ironically always using the plural while it's probably just one) and I'd depend on them, because I wouldn't have any other option. I replied that I can take the videos/channel down anytime and the answer was: "haha sure no one has balls to do that on their channel." Well, I did.

I'm not too happy on it because I think many really enjoy watching it, but it's a phenomenon I've also noticed on JT more and more. People get extremly insulting if they don't get what they want, or if someone expresses a different point of view.
If it had only been one user, I wouldn't have taken action, but during this Hall of Fame period some really seemed to lose their heads.
Maybe some will re-think their attitude now.
Woah, those are some really arrogant as*holes. But I have to thank you for all the time you put In and all the stuff you uploaded because that was one of the reasons I became a fan. I watched those incredible performances and went like "Damn, those guys were phenomenal back in the day". So once again, thank you for everything and I accept your decision.

Bounce7800 04-17-2018 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239302)

I'm not too happy on it because I think many really enjoy watching it, but it's a phenomenon I've also noticed on JT more and more. People get extremly insulting if they don't get what they want, or if someone expresses a different point of view.
If it had only been one user, I wouldn't have taken action, but during this Hall of Fame period some really seemed to lose their heads.
Maybe some will re-think their attitude now.
People are such idiots on Youtube. Although it's not just there (and here as you mention it) there's just no middle ground for any debate. You're either Team A or Team B, and the mud just flies between them. It's disappointing that's the way of the world these days seemingly.

Your YT channel is absolutely immense and myself and many others appreciate the work that you have put in. But for your sanity, ignoring comments would be the way to go, in the same way I'm amazed any celebrity reads their Twitter mentions for the vitriol that gets sent.

Rdkopper 04-17-2018 09:55 PM
What's this all about?

rocknation 04-17-2018 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1239373)
Looks like he's the "world's #1 autograph seeker" -- and with those signed pickguards, he can apply them to cheap guitars and sell them at expensive guitar prices! But why the band was so "generous" to him is an excellent question...

BJFan99 04-17-2018 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1239360)
People are such idiots on Youtube. Although it's not just there (and here as you mention it) there's just no middle ground for any debate. You're either Team A or Team B, and the mud just flies between them. It's disappointing that's the way of the world these days seemingly.

Your YT channel is absolutely immense and myself and many others appreciate the work that you have put in. But for your sanity, ignoring comments would be the way to go, in the same way I'm amazed any celebrity reads their Twitter mentions for the vitriol that gets sent.
I agree. Just ignore those people and upload what you and other fans (the ones that are easier to deal with) want, but don't take your channel down permanently. Please, Dominik - your channel already was an important part of my (and probably quite a few other's as well) Bon Jovi fandom before even getting to acknowledge this forum... your videos have made our day multiple times. You're the f*cking boss, man; just stop caring and bring back the vids for us, please. :(

rolo_tomachi 04-17-2018 10:57 PM
Love Sambora

Walleris 04-17-2018 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239302)
Since I had already gotten PMs on why my whole channel (hAnD90) is down:

The story behind this are a couple of conversations with fans recently that have been, let's say, quite far over the edge.
To give you one background story: There have been a couple of fans who were quite insistent on what they want as an upload and what not and they kept sending PMs like "Why U upload that? I said we want xy...". I'm not one to ignore these messages, but kept discussing this stuff in a polite way in the beginning, until it got more and more unfriendly. I explained in more than one case that I'm doing this for fun and as a hobby (some actually really thought I'd earn my living with this account) and that I'd only do it as long as I'd enjoy it.
One person actually (similar to how some conversations in the forum are) got really unfriendly because I wouldn't focus on doing shows after Richie's departure. Another one told me that they wanted Rio 1990 remastered and I explained that this is basically not possible due to the bad soundboard and video mix. The answer was that I'd better not waste my time on this if I wasn't capable of doing the job.
The one that took it over the edge was a user who replied to my explanation of doing it just for the fun that I'd be in no position to discuss because they are the ones that watch (ironically always using the plural while it's probably just one) and I'd depend on them, because I wouldn't have any other option. I replied that I can take the videos/channel down anytime and the answer was: "haha sure no one has balls to do that on their channel." Well, I did.

I'm not too happy on it because I think many really enjoy watching it, but it's a phenomenon I've also noticed on JT more and more. People get extremly insulting if they don't get what they want, or if someone expresses a different point of view.
If it had only been one user, I wouldn't have taken action, but during this Hall of Fame period some really seemed to lose their heads.
Maybe some will re-think their attitude now.
Nooooo!!!

That's incredibly sad news...

I honestly think you have/had the best Bon Jovi channel on YouTube for diehards like us. It was stamp of quality - I always knew that you bring the best possible quality of those recordings and the performances you put are always worth checking out even if I wasn't aware of some of them beforehand.

If you decide that this stop is the permanent end, I will understand. However, I selfishly hope that at least you consider the option of keeping the channel open to have the existing videos available to enjoy. There are a lot of performances that your channel has the only available versions on YouTube. And for non-bootleggers non-traders non-collectors like me, that's everything. After all, it wouldn't cost you a dime of effort - all the work is done on those existing videos and the idiots demanding specific new content, can just suck it :)

Whatever your ultimate decision is, thank you for the amazing run!

rolo_tomachi 04-17-2018 11:09 PM
bonjovi90 You have done an incredible job of remastering and editing, please do not close your channel, there will always be idiots in the comments, you should keep the positive comments.

You give Bon Jovi a good name, please, I beg you, do not close the channel, and I encourage you to continue uploading what you want to share with us, the fan community.

BJFan99 04-17-2018 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1239384)
Nooooo!!!

That's incredibly sad news...

I honestly think you have/had the best Bon Jovi channel on YouTube for diehards like us. It was stamp of quality - I always knew that you bring the best possible quality of those recordings and the performances you put are always worth checking out even if I wasn't aware of some of them beforehand.

If you decide that this stop is the permanent end, I will understand. However, I selfishly hope that at least you consider the option of keeping the channel open to have the existing videos available to enjoy. There are a lot of performances that your channel has the only available versions on YouTube. And for non-bootleggers non-traders non-collectors like me, that's everything. After all, it wouldn't cost you a dime of effort - all the work is done on those existing videos and the idiots demanding specific new content, can just suck it :)

Whatever your ultimate decision is, thank you for the amazing run!
Amen, brother!

BJFan99 04-17-2018 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1239387)
bonjovi90 You have done an incredible job of remastering and editing, please do not close your channel, there will always be idiots in the comments, you should keep the positive comments.

You give Bon Jovi a good name, please, I beg you, do not close the channel, and I encourage you to continue uploading what you want to share with us, the fan community.
You hit the nail right on the head with that, Rolo.

bonjovi90 04-18-2018 01:05 AM
Wow guys, thanks for all these comments. I had already guessed that many enjoyed watching the videos, I've had no idea how much they mean to many out there.
Two of the people mentioned in the original post have actually really apologized for their behaviour after the videos had gone.
I also had a long discussion with Damned TV who has faced some similar problems and we both have decided that it's better to just ignore the haters from now on and don't have them ruin the fun for all of us.
Imagine if we had permanently taken down both channels...

The videos should all be back on by now!

Rdkopper 04-18-2018 02:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239400)
Wow guys, thanks for all these comments. I had already guessed that many enjoyed watching the videos, I've had no idea how much they mean to many out there.
Two of the people mentioned in the original post have actually really apologized for their behaviour after the videos had gone.
I also had a long discussion with Damned TV who has faced some similar problems and we both have decided that it's better to just ignore the haters from now on and don't have them ruin the fun for all of us.
Imagine if we had permanently taken down both channels...

The videos should all be back on by now!
Yeah Man!!! I always appreciate what you do!!! Thanks so much!!!!

YOVANAfromPeru 04-18-2018 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1230873)
just stay and don't give a **** about it ;)
Once you told me this
now I tell you that

P.S. Though my story is totally different, looks like I'm going to stay too -_-

YOVANAfromPeru 04-18-2018 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1239373)
Seems like JBJ likes specifically this guy a lot, at least he is funny >_< jajaj (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR9W...ature=youtu.be)

Rdkopper 04-18-2018 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1239407)
Seems like JBJ likes specifically this guy a lot, at least he is funny >_< jajaj (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR9W...ature=youtu.be)
Jon must get a cut or something... curious why Jon would sign all that stuff and then have his brother bring it to him with a smile no less...

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YOVANAfromPeru 04-18-2018 03:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1239408)
Jon must get a cut or something... curious why Jon would sign all that stuff and then have his brother bring it to him with a smile no less...

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maybe when you are millionaire, you like to give some money to other for free

JackieBlue 04-18-2018 05:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239400)
Wow guys, thanks for all these comments. I had already guessed that many enjoyed watching the videos, I've had no idea how much they mean to many out there.
Two of the people mentioned in the original post have actually really apologized for their behaviour after the videos had gone.
I also had a long discussion with Damned TV who has faced some similar problems and we both have decided that it's better to just ignore the haters from now on and don't have them ruin the fun for all of us.
Imagine if we had permanently taken down both channels...

The videos should all be back on by now!
Thank you!!

I didn't have a chance to comment before this post from you. But I hope you know that I think your work is amazing! And your memory for concert details is even amazing-er! (I know... beside the point...)

I would have supported your decision either way, but I'm glad you're back almost before I heard you were gone. I woulda wept buckets!! :)

BJFan99 04-18-2018 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239400)
Wow guys, thanks for all these comments. I had already guessed that many enjoyed watching the videos, I've had no idea how much they mean to many out there.
Two of the people mentioned in the original post have actually really apologized for their behaviour after the videos had gone.
I also had a long discussion with Damned TV who has faced some similar problems and we both have decided that it's better to just ignore the haters from now on and don't have them ruin the fun for all of us.
Imagine if we had permanently taken down both channels...

The videos should all be back on by now!
Thanks, bud! You’re the man 😀

kleman 04-18-2018 09:02 AM
bonjovi90, you are the man. your videos are best thing on YT :cool:
just ignore them......

DavetheGodofKeys 04-18-2018 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239400)
Wow guys, thanks for all these comments. I had already guessed that many enjoyed watching the videos, I've had no idea how much they mean to many out there.
Two of the people mentioned in the original post have actually really apologized for their behaviour after the videos had gone.
I also had a long discussion with Damned TV who has faced some similar problems and we both have decided that it's better to just ignore the haters from now on and don't have them ruin the fun for all of us.
Imagine if we had permanently taken down both channels...

The videos should all be back on by now!
Fantastic! You took the right decision. Just keep uploading rare stuff and ignore the haters from now on.

symbeline 04-18-2018 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239400)
Wow guys, thanks for all these comments. I had already guessed that many enjoyed watching the videos, I've had no idea how much they mean to many out there.
Two of the people mentioned in the original post have actually really apologized for their behaviour after the videos had gone.
I also had a long discussion with Damned TV who has faced some similar problems and we both have decided that it's better to just ignore the haters from now on and don't have them ruin the fun for all of us.
Imagine if we had permanently taken down both channels...

The videos should all be back on by now!
I'm late to the party!

I can't emphasize how much I admire the work you do. I'm glad you've decided to continue but even if you didn't (which would be a horrible day in BJ history) you've given us enough to be grateful forever.

Whatever you do in the future, don't let stupid Internet trolls question what you do. I've known a couple of them personally (unfortunately) and though I obviously despise them, they are also the most pathetic individual I've ever met. Absolutely unworthy of anybody's time or energy

rocknation 04-18-2018 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1239436)
...I'm glad you've decided to continue but even if you didn't (which would be a horrible day in BJ history) you've given us enough to be grateful forever.

Whatever you do in the future, don't let stupid Internet trolls question what you do...
I, too, am happy and grateful to hear that Bonjovi90 has changed his mind. I thought his problem was rooted in YouTube policy because they've been giving people a hard time about content that is not profitable for them. Just block the trolls and haters from now on: when you "feed" them, you also "starve" the people who DO appreciate your work (which is now more important to preserving "BJ history" than ever) and understand that there are limits to what you can supply!

WhamATC 04-18-2018 09:44 PM
BonJovi90, why are there private videos there in the playlists? Are those performances or something? Just wondering.

bonjovi90 04-18-2018 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WhamATC (Post 1239460)
BonJovi90, why are there private videos there in the playlists? Are those performances or something? Just wondering.
Oh I gotta check on that. I had set them all on public at once, maybe YouTube screwed something up.

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WhamATC 04-18-2018 09:52 PM
By the way every of the playlists has atleast a few private videos, just so you know.

bonjovi90 04-18-2018 10:18 PM
They are all public again so Youtube may need some time to re-update the status on the playlists.

Rdkopper 04-18-2018 10:23 PM
Multiple what you just went through by 1million and now you know how it feels to be a celebrity with a social media account. You get a lot of love but that also comes with a lot of hate...

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rolo_tomachi 04-18-2018 11:28 PM
I know that this has been published before, but damn, this performance is amazing, so full of magic, Jon's voice was so good, Richie's harmonies and the guitar work is so fantastic.


Thanks bonjovi90.

bonjovi90 04-19-2018 01:04 PM
Excellent, once again!

Jeeper 04-19-2018 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1239557)


Untouchable. What a band they were.


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Jeeper 04-20-2018 04:03 PM
https://youtu.be/Mqyrt7RCgsg

Their best version of Wanted. Everything is perfect. Intro, vocals, and by far the best live version of the solo. Love it.


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BJFan99 04-22-2018 10:58 AM
For me, pretty much the best post-2k Prayer performance:

https://youtu.be/KGXclbmCBrY

That ending... holy f*ck, that ending...

Thomas S 04-22-2018 01:10 PM
The best ever performance of IDFY in my opinion... the harmonies in the last chorus are just so ****ing perfect.

bonjovi90 04-22-2018 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1239809)
The best ever performance of IDFY in my opinion... the harmonies in the last chorus are just so ****ing perfect.

Bon Jovi - I'd Die For You (Milton Keynes 1989) - YouTube
Agreed! I've always loved that performance! Also the solo is absolutely killer!

bonjovi90 04-22-2018 11:22 PM
Great acoustic medley Bounce did this morning:
Real Life / The Distance / Just Older / I Want You

8 minutes and every diehard is happy, having heard some rare stuff. :D

DryCounty 04-23-2018 12:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1239809)
The best ever performance of IDFY in my opinion... the harmonies in the last chorus are just so ****ing perfect.

Bon Jovi - I'd Die For You (Milton Keynes 1989) - YouTube
Jon and Richies harmonies in the pre-chorus, oh my! THAT is what Bon Jovi is about for me.

YOVANAfromPeru 04-23-2018 05:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1239809)
The best ever performance of IDFY in my opinion... the harmonies in the last chorus are just so ****ing perfect.

Bon Jovi - I'd Die For You (Milton Keynes 1989) - YouTube
This song was one of the high quality live audios that I had when I was in school, I liked listen this almost everyday >_< jajaj

manarosi 04-23-2018 10:39 PM
Is there anyone that can give me a link to the Alpine valley's these days?? Never seen and never heard that performance :(

steel_horse75 04-23-2018 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1239809)
The best ever performance of IDFY in my opinion... the harmonies in the last chorus are just so ****ing perfect.


Such a shame there’s only this a wild in the streets from mk bowl on YouTube


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