[QUOTE=Dicanio;1274530]Anyone else enjoying Ken Tamplins vocal analysis of Jon? Hes posted a couple of very informative videos of Jons singing style over the past few weeks covering Blaze Of Glory and Bad Medicine



Yes! Been enjoying Kens videos for a long time. Amazing how he can point out how everything works. Awesome stuff. The one with its my life made me sad. I really loved blaze of glory. Laughed when he sang a verse like Paul Rodgers/ Coverdale.

Almost 10 years ago.

I'm flabbergasted. What happened to our band?

https://youtu.be/fXvORekunr8

10 years happened

Ten years happened to every band, but none of them declined at the rate of this band...

Doesn't help how good they were before. Motley Crue are crap these days but weren't that great before. But yeah I get your point, it was very sudden

KISS, U2... Are bands that I follow very closely and they are not in a good shape, especially KISS... Paul Stanley's voice is worst than Jon's, half of their concerts is playback by now

Stanely sounded awful ten years ago too. Yes he has declined, but not at the rate that Jon has. He was never a great singer to begin with to be honest (in my opinion). Bono has been struggling vocally for a long time, again, he has declined but didn't sound that different 10 years ago. Jon sounds like a completely different singer.

But I don't compare Jon to these guys, as in my opinion these guys were never great singers in the first place, maybe Bono was in the 80s but that was a long time ago now...

Steven Tyler has declined in the last ten years, but he still does a great job, Joe Elliott has actually managed to improve his vocals from where he was 10 years ago. Springsteen has declined sure, but marginally. I honestly can't think of anyone that has declined anywhere near to as much has Jon has since 2021.

Agree mainly, although I would rate mid 90s Bono as good as mid 90's JBJ.

In terms of modern decline - Vince Neil is the only comparable to my ears, although I don't think he was ever as great as Jon was.

Bono was a great singer, ridiculous to suggest otherwise

https://youtu.be/7LNXOIGuxHU

https://youtu.be/Q94QkRRQKG4

One thing that is quite apparent is that a lot of 70s/80s singers are reaching the end of the road. They weren't the best when it came to technique, and are now seeing the consequences.

Bono was better than Jon in these last years.

Sorry not really seeing your point.

The first link is dreadful, but there are Jon links just as band (also my opinion)

The MTV unplugged is professionally filmed and recorded and undoubtably touched up (possibly the reason that it's the only thing by them that I ever really enjoyed). Obviously you are a fan and that's cool, but I never was. I always thought they were vastly overrated and had huge success with little talent. But we all like different things. Not saying he could never sing, but I don't rate him with the greats.

But his decline has been a long process. I saw Kiss in 1997 (I went to see one of the support bands) and (again, in my opinion) Stanley was shockingly bad then.

I was also at Download Festival last time they played and left 30 mins into their set. But others were loving it. Each to their own.

Yeah could be, you're more qualified than me to comment. I just feel like mid 90s Bono was more akin to 2000s Jon, but could be wrong. He's just one of those singers that everytime I hear live footage he seems to be struggling...apart from the earlier stuff.

Joe Elliott used to be even worse, but I think he sought some help and has completely changed his style of singing and it works really well for him. Unfortunately I think Jon left it too late to take it seriously.

Vince was never great and has been shocking for at least 15+ years.

You're right, to say he was never a great singer is unfair, certainly at his peak he was, but that was a very long time ago now. My point was that he doesn't sound as bad a jon does currently, but his voice started to deteriate a long time before ten years ago. He's been struggling vocally since around the same time as Jon has.

Stanley certainly had a lot of range and control when he was on, and now he doesn't. That's all I was trying to get across. Whether you like their music or not is obviously down to taste, but that part is rather obvious.

Side note: PS is miming to tapes these days. Supposedly Joe Elliot has had a ton of such help live, too, and for quite some time. He sounded great on the last Lepard studio release, so he's still got that going either way.

As i said, he was poor when I saw him in 97. I feel he as a singer and the band overall are overrated. Personal opinion, as a vocalist he could never touch Jon at his peak.

Leppard have been accused of this since the 80s, but mainly for backing vocals. Utter rubbish, it's just a band of people that can actually sing. However....

Around 2008 I saw the band several times. Joe struggled every night, I honestly couldn't see how he could maintain singing like that. It sounded like his voice was on it's last legs. I'd seen then a few times before that and his voice was hit and miss from 2000 onwards, there seemed to be a very gradual decline from the early to late 90s.

Anyways a few years after that tour Joe had to pull out of the show on the Leppard cruise that they did because his voice was gone. They had a US tour booked later in that year and I'm convinced Joe was miming for that tour. The tell tale part for me was in Rock Of Ages when he would always sing "we're gonna set <instert town name here> alight". On this tour he reverted back to the album lyric of "we're gonna set this town alight". He's never done this before. He also seemed to be singing with the mic close to his mouth and his head down a lot of the time. I don't think he was comfortable miming at all and was quite self consious about it.

After that I believe that Leppard took a break and when they came back it was very obvious that something was different with the way he was singing. I think, in the same way that Jon does with the high note in Prayer, Joe has a couple of higher parts on tape, but on the whole he is singing live. When they did the Hysteria tour a couple of years ago, you could occasionally hear the crack or wobble in his voice, and the town name in the Rock Of Ages lyric was restored. I think he's learned to use his falsetto more effectively and with more power for certain parts, rather than trying to belt it out full voice. There is no doubt in my mind that he had some serious help from a coach over that period.

A band that were definitely using lead vocal tapes were Journey at the very end of their time with Steve Augeri (around 2006)

the voice still lives in him


U2 Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses http://www.youtube.com/v/cf9jiZSNEV4
U2 Acrobat http://www.youtube.com/v/WA_XXXa67IY

Yeah completely agree

These are pretty good. Sound like pro recordings tho. If only Jon could get anywhere close to this!

I don't know about you, but Bono just sounds old. But he still sounds like himself. That's the thing with Jon, since about 2015 he's not sounded anything like himself.

Yeah exactly.

It's My Life more than 1000 million views

https://loudwire.com/bon-jovi-its-my...youtube-views/
:eek:

https://youtu.be/HYFZdj2kvkw

loap by Orchestra,..liked it

https://youtu.be/8e5g2lYOmic

What do you think about this performance?

I really like it.

To be fair to him, that's pretty decent

I do like this acoustic version he does with KoS.

Thanks for sharing

It's not quite the trainwreck we're used to seeing these days, but still not something I would enjoy. Obviously, the chorus melody is altered as expected, but what bothered me most was the end of second verse and transition into the second chorus, where you can see how lost of breath Jon gets in what should be an easy part of the song for any baritone singer.

Just stating the obvious that this does not touch the 2003 acoustic version, which was awesome, despite Jon's vocal problems at the time that caused him to also alter the melody of the chorus.

I quite enjoyed that. Struggled on the chorus but the verses were great. Such an underrated song! Nice version.

For anyone wanting to reminiscence the band's Indian Summer ten years ago as well:

Setlist:
01. Intro [0:00]
02. Raise Your Hands [1:48]
03. You Give Love A Bad Name [7:02]
04. Born To Be My Baby [10:44]
05. We Weren't Born To Follow [15:50]
06. The Radio Saved My Life Tonight [19:55]
07. Jon talking about the band's return to Mannheim [25:20]
08. It's My Life [25:59]
09. Runaway [29:48]
10. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead [34:33]
~ Start Me Up [38:44]
11. We Got It Going On [42:50]
12. I Get A Rush [47:52]
13. Bad Medicine [51:03]
~ Mercy [54:51]
~ Old Time Rock And Roll [56:24]
~ Shout (teaser) [1:01:01]
14. Bed Of Roses [1:03:12]
15. Jon and Richie discussing about playing Never Say Goodbye [1:11:30]
16. I'll Be There For You [1:12:39]
17. Miss Fourth Of July (acoustic) [1:20:59]
18. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (acoustic) [1:26:27]
19. Who Says You Can't Go Home [1:30:49]
20. Captain Crash & The Beauty Queen From Mars [1:36:48]
21. No Aplogies [1:42:17]
22. Have A Nice Day [1:46:14]
23. Keep The Faith [1:50:18]

Encore 1:
24. Hey God [1:57:25]
25. Wanted Dead Or Alive [2:04:16]
26. In These Arms [2:10:25]
27. Hallelujah [2:16:35]
28. Jon thanking audience [2:22:41]
29. Livin' On A Prayer [2:23:16]

Encore 2:
30. Love's The Only Rule [2:30:59]

You rock Dominik - this is one of my favorite concerts. Guess what I'm watching tomorrow night?

Oh and that encore.

That JBJ's guitar solo on Runaway was atrocious.

So good. So easy.

Jon Bon Jovi being drunk for 3 minutes straight

god... they sounded great... the mixing is perfect, they were tight as hell and they should've never dropped the drum loops

I truly don't think they've changed anything since 2000 with this song, the drum loop are still there.

Stern show vids always have the best audio mixing. Good performance but there's not much musical value in that song anyway.

No they're not....

Hmm I may have to listen closer. They're certainly in the intro, are we talking about the verses?