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TheseDays2005 11-24-2006 05:46 PM

File Sharing Policy +
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 708463)

Since the removal of the File Sharing Forum, users are no longer authorised to post links to download official, live, bootleg or any other type of music or video file. This goes for mp3, wma, wmv, mpg, avi etc.

In reply to the sticky thread wich is unable to reply to.

So does the above mean it isn't allowed to put direct download links but it is OK to post streaming-links (ie youtube, google) wich can be downloaded also...?

Just wondering....

Thomas Anderson 11-24-2006 05:56 PM

Well technically it is possible to download YouTube videos etc but that is up to you, extra software you need, the site offers only the option to stream so that makes it ok to link here.

gazthomas 11-25-2006 02:27 AM

basically kevs tryin to make himself known again and imposing a law that has many loop holes............... dog chasing its tail basically

Captain_jovi 11-25-2006 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 708653)
basically kevs tryin to make himself known again and imposing a law that has many loop holes............... dog chasing its tail basically

Why are you blaming Kev, YET AGAIN. Were you even around when the big file sharing problem went down years ago? This is not Kev's doing and you gotta stop using him as a scapegoat for every one of the boards problems.

Mousebounce 11-25-2006 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 708653)
basically kevs tryin to make himself known again and imposing a law that has many loop holes............... dog chasing its tail basically


Kev is not the adim. and Capt. Jovi is correct. Do some research before you make meaningless accusations.

TheseDays2005 11-25-2006 03:36 AM

Well, Gazzie-boy has it's point in his sort of way.
This 'sticky' is a bit (read: very) outdated



just like other stickies (not a joint!!)

Becky 11-25-2006 04:31 AM

It's only outdated if people have stopped posting direct links to downloadable files, which they haven't. You may not always see them because they get moved as soon as any one of the moderating team sees them.

TheseDays2005 11-25-2006 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 708677)
It's only outdated if people have stopped posting direct links to downloadable files, which they haven't. You may not always see them because they get moved as soon as any one of the moderating team sees them.

yeah, i see now I wasn't really specifying what I ment with outdated.
I ment the download links, it's allowed, almost all (proper) fansite has them, IMO another chance to the file-sharing forum should be given. So I'm wondering now, what was the reason why it was given up? And could it be than a few years later, those probs could be less?

Mousebounce 11-25-2006 04:48 AM

It is illegal, hence why it was stopped.

Captain_jovi 11-25-2006 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 708679)
It is illegal, hence why it was stopped.

Exactly. Anyone who wasn't around when the file sharing forum was here simply will not get it. I don't mean to be all "Fake mod", I just hate it when people who have been here a year or two start trying to push around those of us who have SEEN something go through a trial process and fail.

TheseDays2005 11-25-2006 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 708687)
Exactly. Anyone who wasn't around when the file sharing forum was here simply will not get it. I don't mean to be all "Fake mod", I just hate it when people who have been here a year or two start trying to push around those of us who have SEEN something go through a trial process and fail.

Uuh, I WAS around back then. This is maybe the 3rd time where you say to me something in the line of 'you weren't here then'.
And for the 3rd time I have to tell you that I was reading this board from the start, board version 1... prob longer than you, so please don't start like that. I'm not here for a year or two (!) as you say. My other ID, think it was Captaincrash - I took that name when we had to re-register for this board (from the old board)

I hope this is the last time I have to explain this to you. And I hope this is the last time where you feel that yourself is something 'more' then people who are not as long on this board as you (not myself included)

Just didn't remember why (but was member of that forum). And please tell me: where am I pushing and where am i just wondering??
and btw only official stuff is illegal

Iceman 11-25-2006 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 708691)
and btw only official stuff is illegal

BTW, anything that someone owns the rights to is illegal to share without permission. Like every TV-performance, every radio-performance, every studio recorded song... Only thing you are allowed to share (and only in some countries) are live performances that have been recorded by amateru equipment during a concert, and even those are usually copyrighted by the arenas they were recorded in. So, you're about as wrong as you can be.

They've even taken down tablature sites recently, because lines and numbers that form the tablatures are too close to the original and therefore are a copyright infringement. There are hundreds of fan sites that have gone down because record companies have sued them. There are torrent-sites that have had their admins arrested for sharing "unofficial" music.

Do some research and don't believe everything you read.

Ice

gazthomas 11-25-2006 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 708668)
Kev is not the adim. and Capt. Jovi is correct. Do some research before you make meaningless accusations.

did kev make the sticky??
is the thread outdated?
is it now aload of bollocks?

Mousebounce 11-25-2006 02:11 PM

Whatever you say Gazzy boy...whatever you say.:D

gazthomas 11-25-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 708726)
Whatever you say Gazzy boy...whatever you say.:D

ok mousey

gazzie boy ; what a bad bad name

TheseDays2005 11-25-2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 708703)
BTW, anything that someone owns the rights to is illegal to share without permission. Like every TV-performance, every radio-performance, every studio recorded song... Only thing you are allowed to share (and only in some countries) are live performances that have been recorded by amateru equipment during a concert, and even those are usually copyrighted by the arenas they were recorded in. So, you're about as wrong as you can be.

They've even taken down tablature sites recently, because lines and numbers that form the tablatures are too close to the original and therefore are a copyright infringement. There are hundreds of fan sites that have gone down because record companies have sued them. There are torrent-sites that have had their admins arrested for sharing "unofficial" music.

Do some research and don't believe everything you read.

Ice

Well I believe you, could be right, but howcome fansites (just look at the RHCP & Live) are allowed to post any link as long as it's not official (ie on a official cd/cdsingle whatever).
Also at their official websites you are allowed to post any links, but not official. The official website explains what I said in a sticky thread. Als people on that board are saying the above, so as far as I know, your just as wrong (or right) as them.
Or it's a recordcompany thingy....

Anyway therefore I was wondering if maybe things has changed since it was closed last. But apparantly not.

Iceman 11-25-2006 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 708729)
Well I believe you, could be right, but howcome fansites (just look at the RHCP & Live) are allowed to post any link as long as it's not official (ie on a official cd/cdsingle whatever).

Beacause the record company doesn't own the rights to "unofficial" material. They don't care.

Quote:

Also at their official websites you are allowed to post any links, but not official.
Links aren't illegal, files are.

Quote:

Als people on that board are saying the above, so as far as I know, your just as wrong (or right) as them.
Or it's a recordcompany thingy....
It's very easy to find out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright and remember that copyright laws differ from country to country.

Ice

TheseDays2005 11-25-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 708736)
Beacause the record company doesn't own the rights to "unofficial" material. They don't care.



Links aren't illegal, files are.



It's very easy to find out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright and remember that copyright laws differ from country to country.

Ice

Yeah I know about copyrights, got to do with it at work. But I'm not talking about the offical cd stuff but about the unoffical stuff, wich they don't care about

Ok, but the reason that it was closed was because it was illegal?

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 708679)
It is illegal, hence why it was stopped.

So geussing links were allowed back then....
I'm probably very slow but if it was closed because it was illegal like Mouse says but links were allowed, what was the problem then?
Too many and contineus links to 'official' material?

Captain_jovi 11-25-2006 06:34 PM

I don't think I'm at any higher plateau because I've been here awhile. I keep forgetting that you've been here since the beginning because you SAY you've been here forever, then you start threads like this and ask what happened then. So it's just confusing and it's understandable that I would forget. If you were there, you'd kinda know, you know what I mean?

TheseDays2005 11-25-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 708764)
I don't think I'm at any higher plateau because I've been here awhile. I keep forgetting that you've been here since the beginning because you SAY you've been here forever, then you start threads like this and ask what happened then. So it's just confusing and it's understandable that I would forget. If you were there, you'd kinda know, you know what I mean?

again, I forgot, I was member of the forum because you had to be in order to get access to it but I barely used it....

still don't know why....

gazthomas 11-29-2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 708766)
again, I forgot, I was member of the forum because you had to be in order to get access to it but I barely used it....

still don't know why....

didnt you get banned?

TheseDays2005 11-29-2006 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 709657)
didnt you get banned?

NO


...............

Sambo-Chris 11-29-2006 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 708653)
basically kevs tryin to make himself known again and imposing a law that has many loop holes............... dog chasing its tail basically

1. it wasn't Kev who decided this
2. you can say thank-you to the people who abused the file-sharing forum and shared official released stuff.This was the reason why the file-sharing forum got closed back then.

Kathleen 11-29-2006 11:39 PM

As the last mod of the late lamented file sharing board I can tell you what happened "in my opinion".

There were several people who behaved horribly and constantly complained to Peter about various things - his choice of mods being the main topic. One person went so far as to have had his pm and sig privleges revoked - something that is only done in extreme cases. There were several mods in a row that had problems with the same people. Eventually - since those people couldn't take a hint - Peter wound up spending too much time dealing with personnel problems. He didn't need that - he has plenty of other stuff to do.

As the mod - I was trying to add sharing lossless files rather than the mp3s that had been being shared. Many people resisted this and didn't want to deal with EZ Torrent (now dimeadozen).

At the same time - file sharing was becoming more risky. Record companies were just starting to actively sue people and websites. Nobody needs that either.

The decision was finally made to close the forum. It circumvented a whole host of problems. There are other file sharing boards out there and some of them are working quite well - you should search them out.

Kathleen

gazthomas 11-29-2006 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sambo-Chris (Post 709775)
1. it wasn't Kev who decided this
2. you can say thank-you to the people who abused the file-sharing forum and shared official released stuff.This was the reason why the file-sharing forum got closed back then.

ok then...........

TheseDays2005 11-30-2006 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sambo-Chris (Post 709775)
2. you can say thank-you to the people who abused the file-sharing forum and shared official released stuff.This was the reason why the file-sharing forum got closed back then.

finally, after 6 times asking, finally a answer to my question! (and she wasn't even replying to my q)


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