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Yvonne 12-31-2006 05:00 PM

but as the mods say "we are here to help maintain the running of the board, delete posts/use of language etc"

why should they be allowed to swear at people if theyre maintaining a board? double standards yet again....

TheseDays2005 12-31-2006 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne (Post 715475)
but as the mods say "we are here to help maintain the running of the board, delete posts/use of language etc"

why should they be allowed to swear at people if theyre maintaining a board? double standards yet again....

to get an reaction back, (call it provoking), so they can show off their supermodpowers....

Mongoose 12-31-2006 05:08 PM

Oh for the love of god Yvonne, stop whining.
How many times do I have to say; ITS NOT ABOUT BLOODY LANGUAGE.
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the whole point of this thread was about language in another, fair enough mods dont insult people but as i said was it really appropriate to use the language that was used in the thread and/or in pms....
Why not? Because you dont think so? Big deal. There's no filter on this board, there's nothing to say you can't use bad language, if you dont like - sod off!?

Do you want some salt and vinegar to go with that chip? Jesus, its new years eve..get a life or something

TheseDays2005 12-31-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 715480)
Jesus, its new years eve..get a life or something

This is what I mean - She should get a life for posting on new year DAY (not evening), while you are doing the exact same. So your basically just saying that youself don't have a life.... (wich isn't suprising)

Mongoose 12-31-2006 05:35 PM

I'm just replying, not going on and on about something that is quite frankly incorrect (and its in a spare 10 minutes before I go and get some beer)

Yvonne 12-31-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 715480)

Do you want some salt and vinegar to go with that chip? Jesus, its new years eve..get a life or something

wow, i've been insulted, mods should do something, as they seem to do with ALL insults by others.... oh i forget the person in question IS a mod....

shame people cant contribute without throwing insults

Mongoose 12-31-2006 06:25 PM

Actually, we dont usually bother doing anything with insults. Unless they're rather vile personal attacks.. Please do show me where we've done something about "ALL insults by others"

And there's nothing to contribute to here, its a non-issue. As I've said if you don't like 'bad' language then go to backstage

Mousebounce 12-31-2006 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spunkywho (Post 715390)
Somehow it just seems wrong to see Mouse use bad words. NOt cause she is a mod, but it's sooo, erm, not fitting. :S

As for the rest, who really cares?

Moi? I have a truck driver mouth, which is nothing to be proud of. I tend not to use it around here just for the fact that I think you can get your point across without it. In this case, I was copying Goose's reply because he is my idol. ;) Seriously, I was being a bit sarcastic.

And Yvonne, we only delete foul language if it is a direct personal attack. Ex, Your a fuc*** ugly cow. (The stars are for Spunky. Hehe) Other than that, if you check the place out, Goose is right. There are no language filters.

gazthomas 12-31-2006 06:45 PM

i can see this thread gettin locked very soon,

for the simple reason the mods cannot win this argument, they try to come to a conclusion but its all swings and roundabouts, youre all contradicting yourselves which proves there is a very big lack of order and understanding lately between JT mods.

to explain the point of why your all contradictind there is thomas anderson who is sayin words are only words etc. then theres kev and goose giving me infractions that are abusive (pot and kettle) and then theres mouse who is sitting on the fence trying to please everyone (and y everyone i mean the mods). the main thing is your all wrong.


anyway ill give it a few more hours

Mongoose 12-31-2006 06:55 PM

Love it how suddenly Gaz is the victim.

Btw, I wouldn't take too much notice of the reason given for the infraction; its a limitation of the system that you can only select a few options.

Are you honestly trying to say that telling someone that they are "an ugly ****er" or that their name is "shitface" (for no apparent reason) is perfectly acceptable behaviour Gareth?

Allow me to remind you of what you said when a member of the board said your arguments with Thesedays were ruining the board;

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Uhh yah, not happening. I'm able to ignore one person but when you guys keep mucking up every thread you can, it's dumb.
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o well

looks like tuff shit to me
Its not tough shit at all. You clearly think you can do what you want and get away with ruining nearly every thread.... Well guess what? You can't.

Kev 12-31-2006 07:04 PM

I would like to see some CLEAR EXAMPLES of where 'us moderators' are all wrong. Gareth seems to think that the board revolves around him. This is not the case at all. The less Gareth or Thesedays2005 insult other users, the less infractions they will receieve. I think this is a pretty simple rule to follow.

gazthomas 12-31-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev (Post 715531)
I would like to see some CLEAR EXAMPLES of where 'us moderators' are all wrong. Gareth seems to think that the board revolves around him. This is not the case at all. The less Gareth or Thesedays2005 insult other users, the less infractions they will receieve. I think this is a pretty simple rule to follow.

not with double standards

Mongoose 12-31-2006 07:24 PM

Gaz you don't have the right to say anything about anything regarding decisions/standards etc. All a user has to do is look at your posts;

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ok gayboy ill let you believe
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ok i do
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but ur still gay and sad
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ok gayboy
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like i said above

i would like to say your a twat and it aint funny and this doesnt make you funny and if you think people will find this funny and vote for you your gay
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o thanx

luv to meet you too gayboy
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i was right


and your name is shitface
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TD2005

its 2006 get a grip gayboy
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try again


your a wanker
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yeh its cos u post absolute shite
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**** you too

Every single thread you post on you end up ruining with some purile crap, we get countless complaints from people sick of it..it really brings down the quality of the board.
Stop trying to play the victim and grow up.

spunkywho 12-31-2006 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 715509)
Moi? I have a truck driver mouth, which is nothing to be proud of. I tend not to use it around here just for the fact that I think you can get your point across without it. In this case, I was copying Goose's reply because he is my idol. ;) Seriously, I was being a bit sarcastic.

And Yvonne, we only delete foul language if it is a direct personal attack. Ex, Your a fuc*** ugly cow. (The stars are for Spunky. Hehe) Other than that, if you check the place out, Goose is right. There are no language filters.


LOL. Thanks Mouse. Reading you swear is almost like picturing my parents having sex. It's just not supposed to be :D

and, no, I don't believe you use bad words in real life either (don't deny it, don't shatter my dreams) ;)

Becky 12-31-2006 07:58 PM

Dawn asked for a language filter quite a while back and was reemed about it. If it's okay for any other user to throw in curse words, then it's okay for a mod to do it as well. Personally, I'd rather there were filters so I could get online at work. ;) But that's not the general consensus of the board so it's not going to happen.

Language isn't the issue; it's the insults and bickering that takes some threads into downward spirals. If someone calls another user an "ugly ****ing bitch" they'd get an infraction. They'd get the same infraction if they called the user an "ugly pucking witch."

It's not an exact science because behavior isn't an exact science. The moderators have been trusted to have the judgement to make decisions. We're a diverse group of people so you can't expect us to react the same way. We're not robots. We don't always agree. We do usually reach a consensus.

We're not around 100% of the time, so some things get out of hand while no one is online. Sometimes it's a fine line to walk between letting things carry on and closing the thread or removing the posts. We're not here to maintain a police state, yet it seems like some of you are asking for that. Then you'd bitch about it if you got it.

But you don't need specific rules and guidelines of "This word gets an infraction" and "this one doesn't." You're not going to get specific guidelines because if you registered for this board, you're supposed to be old enough to monitor your own behavior and treat other people with respect.

It also appears that some users simply WANT to be banned, like it would be a sort of accomlishment to be the one person who went far enough to get kicked out of Dry County. Not happening. There will be no permanent bans from this website.

Treat each other the way you'd want to be treated in real life. That's your guideline. ;)

Yvonne 12-31-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 715542)
Gaz you don't have the right to say anything about anything regarding decisions/standards etc. All a user has to do is look at your posts;


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ok gayboy ill let you believe

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ok i do

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but ur still gay and sad

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ok gayboy

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like i said above

i would like to say your a twat and it aint funny and this doesnt make you funny and if you think people will find this funny and vote for you your gay

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o thanx

luv to meet you too gayboy

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i was right


and your name is shitface

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TD2005

its 2006 get a grip gayboy

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try again


your a wanker

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yeh its cos u post absolute shite

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**** you too






Every single thread you post on you end up ruining with some purile crap, we get countless complaints from people sick of it..it really brings down the quality of the board.
Stop trying to play the victim and grow up.

i do believe, not so long ago you used to insult people exactly like the above, along with a few other people who have long gone from here

and has been said before.... pot kettle black

Kathleen 01-01-2007 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by spunkywho (Post 715545)
LOL. Thanks Mouse. Reading you swear is almost like picturing my parents having sex. It's just not supposed to be :D

and, no, I don't believe you use bad words in real life either (don't deny it, don't shatter my dreams) ;)

I've met Brooke - she sounds like every other Jersey person I know :D. Good or bad - we all have pretty foul mouths - I think it is imbibed with the water LOL.

And I refuse to believe I'm a loser for posting on New Years Eve - there is a pile of people in my living room making music (sort of) and I am once again hiding upstairs drinking some wine in peace for a few minutes.

And Becky - once again the voice of reason - a pleasure to read.

Happy New Year
(here in Jersey known as Happy ****in New Year)

Kathleen

Mousebounce 01-01-2007 03:05 AM

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here in Jersey known as Happy ****in New Year
And a happy ****in New Year to you too! ;)

gazthomas 01-01-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 715588)
Happy New Year
(here in Jersey known as Happy ****in New Year)

Kathleen

that does my nut in that, just because youre from jersey you think your tough. wally

gazthomas 01-01-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne (Post 715551)
i do believe, not so long ago you used to insult people exactly like the above, along with a few other people who have long gone from here

and has been said before.... pot kettle black

yeh and what about the posts previous to these


i dont start it all

TheseDays2005 01-01-2007 06:22 PM

this thread is sooo 2006. move on folks!

Mongoose 01-01-2007 07:32 PM

oh yeah Yvonne, find me where I've specifically called people "an ugly ****er" or said "ur name is shitface". Bit different from calling someone gimp...

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i do believe, not so long ago you used to insult people exactly like the above, along with a few other people who have long gone from here

and has been said before.... pot kettle black
But, do I need to say it again!?? Are your glasses on?!
Its not about the language or insulting people - ITS ABOUT RUINING EVERY SINGLE THREAD BY TURNING IT INTO A PURILE ARGUMENT BETWEEN A FEW SPECIFIC PEOPLE....Ye Gads!

Captain_jovi 01-01-2007 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 715639)
that does my nut in that, just because youre from jersey you think your tough. wally

HAHAHAHA

"I don't start fights, I'm the victim here"

I look one inch above and there Gaz is picking a fight with Kathleen. Gaz, man, we're not stupid. There is no big conspiricy against you, I promise. We see you pick about 80 percent of the fights, the victim thing ain't working this time.

Kev 01-01-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 715654)
HAHAHAHA

"I don't start fights, I'm the victim here"

I look one inch above and there Gaz is picking a fight with Kathleen. Gaz, man, we're not stupid. There is no big conspiricy against you, I promise. We see you pick about 80 percent of the fights, the victim thing ain't working this time.

...and its never worked in the past either. The more he starts fights...the more he will get punished....

Dawn 01-02-2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 715590)
And a happy ****in New Year to you too! ;)

:O People do have a lot of sex at new year :D lol

I used to swear a lot when I was younger teens/20s but I ended up swearing at the wrong times and it just didnt sound nice. I still do swear at times usually when Im angry, its my new year resolution to stop completely.

If we had filters here it would stop the foul language being as offensive, you banker doesnt have quite the same effect as you *anker. But I can understand that freedom of speech wants to be kept for those who dont find swearing offensive.

Goose used to insult a few people when he was very drunk but we knew he was joking or wouldnt remember.... and he did used to apologise the next day. Goose's tongue in cheek insults are light hearted, like you gimp, you fool (Mr T)... as calling someone a Gayboy like Gaz can be seen as homophobic these days.

Dawn

gazthomas 01-02-2007 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawn (Post 715679)

Goose used to insult a few people when he was very drunk but we knew he was joking or wouldnt remember.... and he did used to apologise the next day. Goose's tongue in cheek insults are light hearted, like you gimp, you fool (Mr T)... as calling someone a Gayboy like Gaz can be seen as homophobic these days.

Dawn


personally i find gimp worse than gayboy but you know, if you cant take a joke....


and on matts point yes i may start 80% of arguments and i get punished for every single one, on the other hand the other 20% of the board are let off.

double standards

Mousebounce 01-02-2007 12:47 AM

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double standards
Such is life. Better to learn this valuable lesson while you are young.

gazthomas 01-02-2007 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 715685)
Such is life. Better to learn this valuable lesson while you are young.

yeh or i may become a complete tosser and start abusing these 'lessons'

such is life

Mousebounce 01-02-2007 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 715688)
yeh or i may become a complete tosser and start abusing these 'lessons'

such is life

You? A complete tosser? Now, now, don't be so hard on yourself. We still love you.

Mongoose 01-02-2007 01:53 AM

You get punished for every single one? Are you on smack?

You've had two infractions since 2004, and 10 warnings. Given that 90% of your posts are infact complete and utter tosh I don't think thats such a bad return.

However, if you don't want to be "punished" - stop being a moron.

gazthomas 01-02-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 715707)
You get punished for every single one? Are you on smack?

You've had two infractions since 2004, and 10 warnings. Given that 90% of your posts are infact complete and utter tosh I don't think thats such a bad return.

However, if you don't want to be "punished" - stop being a moron.

infractions only came in like 2 weeks ago you nutter

Kev 01-02-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 715745)
infractions only came in like 2 weeks ago you nutter

Incorrect. Infractions came into force on 26th August 2006...thats over 18 weeks ago....

Dawn 01-02-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 715704)
You? A complete tosser? Now, now, don't be so hard on yourself. We still love you.

this is what I like to see LOVE in JT.....:D

Dawn

TheseDays2005 01-02-2007 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gazthomas (Post 715745)
infractions only came in like 2 weeks ago you nutter

huuh? So your actually telling me that you got your first infractions 2 weeks ago??

lmfao, I already had a bunch of infractions by that time. So can any mod please explain to me what I did was soo bad (much worse then any Gaz did)? And how they see themselves as constistent/fair...

Talking about being consistent, please refer:

http://drycounty.com/jovitalk/showthread.php?t=37703

So that would automatically mean you didn't get any infraction for the thread Mouse gave me infractions for.....
How consistent...

From that same tread:
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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 705418)
Anyways, you don't really know who got warnings as they're distributed privavtely right? So unless everyone feels the need to show off their warnings to the board, we really don't know who has and who has not got one.

Now I know....

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 705425)
Whatever your reasons are, my point is more that you can't go around saying "How come I was the only one warned?" when it's not a valid argument, unless you know for a fact no one else is.

If Gaz didn't got any untill 2 weeks ago, then it is a FACT

Kev 01-02-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 715800)
If Gaz didn't got any untill 2 weeks ago, then it is a FACT

All infractions given at any time are listed under the users name (Expired AND existing). I can therefore confirm Gaz received his first infraction around 18 weeks ago. (Unless this is a feature of Moderators options only) These can be seen by clicking on a users name in the members list and selecting 'View Public Profile'.

TheseDays2005 01-02-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev (Post 715802)
All infractions given at any time are listed under the users name (Expired AND existing). I can therefore confirm Gaz received his first infraction around 18 weeks ago. (Unless this is a feature of Moderators options only) These can be seen by clicking on a users name in the members list and selecting 'View Public Profile'.

Of course, I coulda know Gaz was talking shit....

Its a feature of Mod Only....

Anyway, what I'm curious about, while being on this topic. What's the difference between a infraction & a warning?

Captain_jovi 01-02-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 715807)
Of course, I coulda know Gaz was talking shit....

Its a feature of Mod Only....

Mmhmm. It's tough to know when he's being honest and truthful.

Kev 01-03-2007 12:08 AM

Quote from Peter....

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Originally Posted by peter (Post 401251)
The moderators are free to use their own judgment when moderating. In some cases all moderators don't share their oponions about what should be deleted and what not, and those cases are usually discussed in moderators-only forum.


TheseDays2005 01-03-2007 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kev (Post 715838)
Quote from Peter....

yes and, the whole discussion around it for completion...:
http://drycounty.com/jovitalk/showth...t=24698&page=3

plus

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Originally Posted by peter (Post 401251)
We could also do a JT referendum regarding each moderator, I actually like this idea but still need to find a way to do it in a fair & constructive way (and prevent cheating). That would enable JT conservatives to oust Goose and JT liberals to oust Sambo-Chris, for example.

I do like this idea...

gazthomas 01-03-2007 01:45 AM

ok 18 weeks so what


infractions arent exactly an old feature


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