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Butters 03-10-2007 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Malachy (Post 729701)
again i dont claim to be an expect on the bible but its clear u didnt pick up a bible to make sure all these claims were right

interesting read al right but dont rely on an athesit website, just because its there doesnt make it correct.

another point that would stike me is if all these things are in the bible, all these contradicition why has no1 esle picked up on them? by the sounds of your post they are all still writtian in the bible for all to see

Well if you read the entire thread you'd have known that I have read the bible and go and talk to any serious bible scholar and they'll confirm the contradictions. Sophisticated theologians fully accept the contradictions in the bible, as you said they're plainly there for anybody to see so there's not much use in them denying it, they just claim it doesn't take away from the central message. Cherry picking anyone? And lots and lots of people, regardless of their theistic or atheistic beliefs, have picked up on them and highlighted them. This isn't exactly breaking news but if you're rapped up in Catholic blankets your whole life you're only going to hear what they want you to hear.

And why does it matter if it's on an atheist website or a muslim website or a christian website? This was simply pointing out the obvious.

Butters 03-10-2007 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Malachy (Post 729703)
grab a bible so u can compare lol make sure they all correct

That paper I posted highlights the chapters and verses so just whip out your bible and flick to the appropriate page and compare the two and you'll see they're absolutely correct.

Follow this link and click on any one of the contradictions of the entire bible that is mentioned and it will give you the chapter and verse of each of the conflicting passages.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

Malachy 03-10-2007 03:45 AM

well nxt time im on i must grab an bible and see if they all match! i know already some of them arent correct.

TheseDays2005 03-10-2007 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Malachy (Post 729709)
well nxt time im on i must grab an bible and see if they all match! i know already some of them arent correct.

i'm betting that is a more reliable source (regarding research done) then the bible...

Butters 03-10-2007 03:57 AM

Here's another very interesting fact. Theists claim God is all loving, right? and that the Devil represents all that is evil so you would expect the Devil to have committed significantly more horrific acts then God, right?

Well, let's check out the murder rates for God vs. The Devil:

If you only count up the number of people God killed where it's explicitly stated in the Bible you reach the impressive total of 2,270,365. But that doesn't include some of God's most impressive slaughters. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? The Bible doesn't say, so there's no way to know for sure. But it's possible to provide rough estimates in order to get a grand total of 32.9 million!

The Devil? Well he's killed a far less impressive 10. Yep, 10 and those 10 happened in the book of Job where he and God had a bet and God authorized the Devil to kill Job's wife and children. So it seems that both Satan and God share the blame (or the credit) for these killings.

Here's a link to check out these facts which show the chapter and verse where God killed all these people lest anyone says this isn't what's in the bible.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot....lete-list.html

Butters 03-10-2007 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Malachy (Post 729709)
well nxt time im on i must grab an bible and see if they all match! i know already some of them arent correct.

Wow, impressive counter argument.

"Your honor, the prosecution may present facts and documented evidence for their claims but I know they're false. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case."

Yeah, could see which way the jury may go on that trial.

Dawn 03-10-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 729617)
the bible does not account for god, snowwhite can't account for the 7 dwarfs can't she?
And how can you account for God daily without being fictional?

Probably never understand though

I dont know snow white so I cant possible say..

The same way you acount for love, faith , belief , you feel it, I see and feel how God works in my life everyday.

There are a lot of posts here about contridicting the bible, you can contridict anything .... The bible encourages people to ask questions and it speaks about those who do not hear and chose not to believe.

God is love and will love you, you either believe this or you dont.

Dawn

Thomas Anderson 03-10-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawn (Post 729827)
God is love and will love you, you either believe this or you dont.

Yet if I said something like...

There is no such thing as god, you can believe it or not.

You'd say I was being arrogant and ask me to prove how I know this.

TheseDays2005 03-10-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawn (Post 729827)
Thesedays2005 is love and will love you, you either believe this or you dont.

Again I edited your quoted post, it still sound sill to me

TheseDays2005 03-11-2007 06:46 PM

Anyway as I'm reading yesterday's newspaper I'm reading an article that is saying that the islam is the #1 religion now (most followers), while the christian always were...

Now why do you think after centuries christian isnt #1 religion anymore?

Because people starting to realize...


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