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eriK 03-11-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 730022)
Anyway as I'm reading yesterday's newspaper I'm reading an article that is saying that the islam is the #1 religion now (most followers), while the christian always were...

Now why do you think after centuries christian isnt #1 religion anymore?

Because people starting to realize...


One possible explanation for that development is that Islam is a religion that contains more structure then Christianity in general. And poor people tend to actually need structure in their lives, someone or something that tells them how keep away from sin and such. And since we today have quite a few poor individuals in the world I’m not surprised that Islam has taken over as the no.1 religion.

Another theory regarding this subject is that Christianity has lost is power in the developed countries, and how should it then be able to indoctrinate new believers? It’s not like the USA is trying to force Christianity up on the people in Iraq as the old imperialist states used to do.

TheseDays2005 03-11-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eriK (Post 730025)
One possible explanation for that development is that Islam is a religion that contains more structure then Christianity in general. And poor people tend to actually need structure in their lives, someone or something that tells them how keep away from sin and such. And since we today have quite a few poor individuals in the world I’m not surprised that Islam has taken over as the no.1 religion.

Another theory regarding this subject is that Christianity has lost is power in the developed countries, and how should it then be able to indoctrinate new believers? It’s not like the USA is trying to force Christianity up on the people in Iraq as the old imperialist states used to do.

Yeah I can see that. But in development countries as in Africa an whole different sort of Islam is practised then in middle-east. More easy-going, more christian I geuss.

Anyways geuss your answered my question there..

Butters 03-12-2007 08:30 PM

I came across this today, I hadn't seen it in ages and thought it was very appropriate:

http://www.richarddawkins.net/images...yerIMAGINE.jpg

TheseDays2005 03-12-2007 08:34 PM

got any of those of the crusades?

Captain Walrus 03-12-2007 10:05 PM

Of course, as I said earlier, there's a fair amount of imagery that could work in favour of religion as well ... it's just imagery. And people would still kill each other regardless. You may as well create a big poster saying "Imagine no human nature"

Butters 03-12-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 730244)
Of course, as I said earlier, there's a fair amount of imagery that could work in favour of religion as well ... it's just imagery. And people would still kill each other regardless. You may as well create a big poster saying "Imagine no human nature"

Not really because religion was the direct cause of the 9/11 attacks. If it weren't for religion and religious faith those towers would still be standing, and more importantly all the people who were killed in the attacks and the subsequent retaliations would still be alive.

And of course it's just imagery, but imagery can be very powerful. Ever heard of the old adage, "a picture paints a thousand words"?

Cuchulainn 03-13-2007 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 730256)
Not really because religion was the direct cause of the 9/11 attacks. If it weren't for religion and religious faith those towers would still be standing, and more importantly all the people who were killed in the attacks and the subsequent retaliations would still be alive.

And of course it's just imagery, but imagery can be very powerful. Ever heard of the old adage, "a picture paints a thousand words"?

see i know religions was used to wind them people up that muh is clear, for me its just shows you how religon can be warped to make it into something bad. you can do that with every form of teaching tho.

anthesim is not a bad teaching, nothing evil in it but it was used to kill many preists in U.S.S.R as well as many number being killed to this day in china.

anything in the hands of an evil person can be evil!

Dawn 03-13-2007 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson (Post 729831)
Yet if I said something like...

There is no such thing as god, you can believe it or not.

You'd say I was being arrogant and ask me to prove how I know this.

no I wouldnt say that... I would say... I respect your belief or lack of it .
I could understand you choosing not to believe if you had at least read the bible.

I class myself as a christian... if someone said to me why are you a christian rather than a muslim, I could answer. Not because I am brainwashed but because I have read other religions, bibles and studied their lifestyles etc. I have periods in my life where I chosen not to live a christian lifestyle , it is all a choice, but surely our choices should be informed ones.

How can you choose to not believe if you have not looked at what you could believe in..

Dawn

Dawn 03-13-2007 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 729836)
Again I edited your quoted post, it still sound sill to me

I dont think it sounds silly that you could love me :D

Dawn

Malachy 03-13-2007 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawn (Post 730288)
no I wouldnt say that... I would say... I respect your belief or lack of it .
I could understand you choosing not to believe if you had at least read the bible.

I class myself as a christian... if someone said to me why are you a christian rather than a muslim, I could answer. Not because I am brainwashed but because I have read other religions, bibles and studied their lifestyles etc. I have periods in my life where I chosen not to live a christian lifestyle , it is all a choice, but surely our choices should be informed ones.

How can you choose to not believe if you have not looked at what you could believe in..

Dawn

now that is a view i would share!


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