you know, someday a bomb will blow up.

You're pathetic, you know that? You come in, fill a thread with useless crap and say it's to "let readers knoe of the existance of forumcop teachers"? LOL!

And then you say it's not ok to write bad posts on purpose, which is _exactly_ what people here do!

Try to act like you know what you're doing, it would make this so much more interesting. Right now you're contradicting yourself so much that I can't keep up what you're trying to say.

I know why they do it. They get annoyed because I call things as I see them. Then they think that somehow _other_ people got offended and come to "rescue" them. Acting like "forum cops".

And I'm not right all the time, nor do I pretend to be. But saying that it's ok to write incoherrent babble on a message board on purpose, that's lunacy. Which is why I'll tell people who do so to stop it. It has nothing to do with control, being right, being stubborn or anything else. It's simply to let people know that legible posts get noticed and answered and incoherrent babble gets ridiculed. Which is the way it will be, regardless of what I do. I just help them to realize it faster.

Credibilty, yes. Opinions are not right or wrong. They are opinions.

If I scare anyone away, then they're really afraid. And sad. Why would anyone get scared of posts on a message board?

You just go into personal insults when you run out of arguments. Couldn't you come up with anything constructive? Any real arguments for example? Didn't think so.

As to me being always right, where do you get that? You've only seen me defend the right to read posts that are understandable. It's not a question of right and wrong, it's a question of common courtesy. Either you think of others when you post, or then you don't.

Sorry, I think you do. I'm not the one badmouthing you for "ruining" threads or the one picking on me even though you know nothing about me. I'm not the one "defending" people on a message board, I'm not the one going around calling people "forum cops". I'm not the one pointing out if posts are 100% on topic. That's you.

I said this before and I'll say it again: think before you post. Right now you're just painting yourself in the corner. You've already stated that you agree with my point that people shouldn't write bad posts on purpose. After that you've just kept insulting me without a reason other than you're annoyed that you ****ed up your arguments. Try to grow up, will ya.

Ice

True. And what I've found to be true as well is that the worst insults don't come wrapped in bad words, but are phrased in a cold, perfectly well-mannered language outwardly. The bad intentions shine through though and hurt much more.

I've said it many times before - I don't swear. Not out of some principle or anything - it simply doesn't come naturally to me, however angry I might be. But I don't get offended by people who use swear words. Words are what you put in them. That's why I think all the current PC is stupid. I might say 'black person' and imply nothing bad, just a fact. Or I might say Afro-American and be a racist deep inside.

I'm the same generally. I might use 'swear' words online or in writing, but I rarely actually use any (in actual speaking) because, as you say too, it doesn't come naturally. That said, just because I don't often use them doesn't mean that I think no-one should, no wouldr I feel upset if I did hear them used.

I swear all the time - both IRL and on the net. I'm neither embarrassed nor proud of it; it's just part of who I am. And somehow, 'holy ****!' sounds way better than an 'oh my!' when I'm amazed and a '****ing retards/idiots' give me a way better way of letting off some steam than a 'oh golly, those men aren't particularly clever'. But that's just me :)

For when it comes to the grammar thingy on the net; I go/went to many different boards and I have never ever experienced that bad written posts are accepted on there. In fact, compared to those other boards, Ice is being more or less polite and certainly not rude.

Whenever you post something on a message board, you know whatever you have written, will be read by other people. In fact, you write it SO other people can read it (and can respond to your posts), cause you're not writing something down when you don't want to be read - save that for your diary. Take the goddamn courtesy then to write it in a legible manner. Fine with me if you don't want to take that courtesy, but you should be aware that people will let you know about it. Like they should.

You forgot the second part, mate. Which was about letting people know that its not a demand/rule that a post should be 100% correct spelling-wise or grammar-wise. Something ppl might start thinking after having read your posts. Afterwards I write that now they know that...they shouldnt write a bad post on PURPOSE either. So basically what Im trying to say is that people should write posts that arent bad on purpose..but still not be worried about a few spelling- or grammar errors.

I dont see how that is contradicting myself? But please continue trying to ridicule me by saying Im pathetic and laughing at me. Thats how serious debaters act :)

I think that must be your version of the story. Im sure "they" have different stories that doesnt match up.

Where did I say its ok to write incoherrent babble? You're twisting my posts yet again. (FYI: I said it was ok not to write a 100% error-free post) But yet again, you put words in my mouth.

I think its fine if you remind people to write properly if its really really bad. I just have a problem with the way you're doing it (and therefore Im letting you know that). And since you wont stop doing it that way, I think that part of the debate is over as we aint getting anywhere here.


Now its my turn to write: Bullshit. "I've been here longer, so my credibility is better than yours" - credibility in which sense? And I doubt its relevant to this debate either. Lemme just play along for a moment:

"Ive been on the internet for a year longer than you have. Therefore my credibility is better than yours...as I have more experience than you in the messageboards/newsgroups sections." See the bullshit in that?

Dont take the word "scared" too litteral. People might stop joining the boards if they constantly gets told they're missing a linebreak or two. That doesnt automatically make them sad. In that case they just wont be bothered coming here, if they need to spend more time defending themself than reading/writing relevant threads.

Its not a personal insult. Its an opinion I have on you so far based on the way you write to me and others. Besides this was a guess. I dont know if thats what really happend.

Btw the thing about common courtesy also applies to your posts. Unless you really feel like being rude towards peoples grammar mistakes.

Hmm...I swear I've seen you claiming it was me who ruined the thread somewhere.

So now its not allowed to defend people on a message board? Shame..Thomas Anderson would you please stop posting in these threads then? ;-) And Iceman, Im amazed that you still dont get what a forumcop is. Instead you create a whole new definition of the term yourself. Not surprisingly.

The last part of your above writing...i can only shake my head at it. You're unreachable man.

:roll: You still don't get it do you - I'm not posting to defend Ice, he's more than capable of doing that himself - I'm just posting because I agree with him.

That's as credible as your other "arguments". Just throwing random things at the wall and seeing what sticks. Well, nothing does. Like I've said; pathetic and ridiculous.

You once again agreed with me in your second chapter, so I don't see the point in this "discussion". You've already said you agree with me many times, then why keep this up? Are you having fun insulting me? And yes, stubborn, idiot and such are insults they way you use them. And unless your a psychologist, you cannot tell anything about a person by their posts on a message board.

And now I'm done. Rane agrees with what I'm trying to do, he disapproves on how I do it. Tough luck. If someone thinks it's rude, take it up with me. But I'm not going to bother with "defenders".

Rane, if I've offended you directly, tell me. If I've offended someone else, I don't care. Let them speak for themselves.

Ice

I see you're trying to end this discussion, and I think its about time we do just that. This whole thing really is very simple:

1. You point out something bad about ones post
2. I point out your way of writing, thinking its rude
3. From this point, we're all 3 just writing posts directed at eachother, answering most of our points, opinions, arguments and sentences.

We clearly disagree about some main issues and I think we've all made our points. I certainly dont agree with this last post of yours where you claim that none of my "random things" sticks to the wall.

You havent offended my directly, Iceman. You've expressed your opinion in kinda extreme ways according to me. And I am still puzzled about some of your opinions. I wasnt having fun "insulting" you. I expressed my opinion in just as harsh ways as you do when replying to lazy posts. The way you kept forcing opinions on me and putting words in my mouth, I find just as "insulting".