I use quick reply but manage to type coherantly. Also, as has been mentioned, there are many spell-check plugins for browsers, so there's no real excuse for not making best use of them.

Only by your own logic - you said that we were rude to point out their mistakes, but you pointed out what you claim are ours.

I just went back to look at it, and I swear I remember it being far worse than that, so perhaps it was edited by the posted before you ever saw it.


I think that he was merely using an extreme example to prove his point and get attention to it.

I think Neil is doing a very good job explaining this, but Rane's metaphores are way out there. What has home cooking to do with writing?

As to people not being fortunate enough: if you have an Internet connection, you'll also have education. It's your problem if you didn't take advantage of it. There are people here from Iran or India and they write better English than that American "writer". What does that tell you?

Dyslexia is another thing, but no one is _that_ dyslexic. Dyslexia doesn't involve abbreviated English or txt spk.

I don't jump on people who obviously can't write better, but people who do know and just don't want to.

Ice

Rane, some people you just have to ignore sometimes on some subjects. On those particular subjects they always have their heads in someone asses and have no opinion for themselves.

Next to that they think they are Jesus themselve, and could just as well be a priest how and are the kind of people who never drive 1 mile/km too fast because that's against the rule, who never will throw sometime accidently on the streets because that's against the law.

It's like constantly referring to forum file sharing policy but as soon as new download is available they are one of the first to ask for a PM.

And no matter wich law, for them its all equal, driving too hard or commiting a murder, it doesn't matter to them - its all the same.

They are the angels of God (at least they think).

About the writing, who is anyone to say how to write. Of course I don't like it myself sometimes but tough shit, ignore it. The constant comments about somebody writing not properly are way more irritating and makes the thread even more difficult to follow.
So from now on I will comment on that everytime people are commenting about writing, just to make it just has irritating as the comments itself.

Again, I've been told twice I don't write properly, but I'm not English native. At least most non-English native can communicate in a 2nd language (and most of the time a 3rd of 4th language), those English native people bashing people aren't capable of that.

As for the saints, don't worry there is no heaven or hell.

If you don't like it, why don't you do something about it. I don't believe in shutting up and taking things as they come. If you don't like something, do something about it or don't complain.


Ice

Good for you. About the spell-check plugins, do they also check grammar and linebreaks i wonder?

I think it seemed fair to defend the poster from unnecessary rudeness.

Only the poster knows, I guess. I just know that the post I read was perfectly legible.

So the question is, was an extreme public example necessary to prove his point or not? I think we'll never agree on that one ;-)

You're right. My metaphores was way out there, but please notice why I wrote the home cooking part. I think your original claim was this: "And if everyone prefers well written posts, why doesn't everyone write those as well?" - my point was that this sentence doesnt make sense at all. Everyone prefers well-written posts = Everyone has to write well-written posts? Now your again forgetting those with grammar-problems etc. I simply compared it to home cooking because that was just as much "way out there" as your claim.

I must admit, you have some strange assumptions and opinions Iceman ;-) Now suddenly a internet connection means you must have a good education? I couldnt help smiling/laughing a bit at that one, sorry. (FYI, I know of several people who has an internet connection but doesnt have a good enough education)

You keep mentioning that a "writer" should write better. It doesnt really matter if she is a writer, an astronaut, a construction worker or unemployed. Everyone cant constantly please the teachers by writing perfect posts. There are other factors involved, other than just laziness as you keep suggesting.

I'm curious if your indicating that the original posters writing is just as bad (or worse) than a dyslectics writing or not?

Yeah, we've established that. Be lazy and you have the right to bash.

I can agree with them that really badly-written posts aint good for the forum and I can even kinda agree that the poster should be informed of it. But just not in the way it happened here. A private message would have been fine, the poster could have edited his/her post and everyones happy again.

Exactly my point.

And if you've been on the net almost since it started, people would also know about the unwritten rule that one doesnt comment/bash people spelling- or grammar errors. I know for a fact that this unwritten rule even today is widely respected on the newsgroups and on most message boards. Its always a shame to find a violation of that rule on a board, we happend to attend.

If you like a good meal, you either go and pay for one or you learn to make one. You don't go to a restaurant waiting for a badly cooked meal. If you only get bad meals when you cook, then why would you cook? Catch my drift?

If you've got an internet connection it means you've got some money. If you've got some money, it means you live in a society where either you have public schools or can buy education with the money you have. Poor, uneducated people in countries where education is not available do not have internet connections. Thus, if you have internet connection, you have good enough education to be able to write properly.

You're clinging onto straws here. Maybe you should stop and think for a minute.

You can't call yourself a writer if you can't write. If you call yourself a writer and can't write a decent post on a message board then you're either a lier or not a writer at all. Any writer will tell you that because of the love of the langage, they would never write txt spk or "forget" paragraph changes or proper punctuation. And we're not talking about mistakes here but plain laziness or stupidness.

It's worse. I've read posts by dyslexics. Dyslexics know about their problem and try hard to write properly. You can't blame them for that. If you don't have dyslexia, and still write poorly, the joke's on you.

Ice

Because eating at restaurants are much more expensive for one? Your example is the same as saying "if you cant write a well-written post, pay a friend to write it for you" - and seriously...who would ever do that :)

Naa, your just assuming too much. Things arent as simple as you'd like them to be. First of all, internet connections are getting very cheap nowadays so everyone can afford them really. Secondly, some people may still live at home or together with some friends who has internet, and so on and so on. Your "logic" might have been true 10 years ago but today that logic falls apart, I think. Ive even read about big American cities getting that new Wimax connection for a very low cost.

Again, your assuming things. Its not a fact that all writers write properly, especially not in unpublished writings. I know for a fact that theres people sitting and correcting writers spelling- and grammar errors before anything gets released. Would you still have written your post, had she been listing "actor" or "unemployed" in her profile? And why is it such a big deal what ppl write in their profile? I doubt you're a man made of ice and living "Somewhere between heaven & hell", for example ;-)

You're probably right. Dyslectic ppl does try harder to write properly. However I think they focus most of their effords on the spelling part, not the grammar.

Following your wacko metaphores, that would be "if you can't type, don't come here" or "if you can't spell, get a thesarus". Or a spell checker. Or use www.merriam-webster.com. Anything, but don't post crappy posts.

Naa, your just assuming too much. Things arent as simple as you'd like them to be. First of all, internet connections are getting very cheap nowadays so everyone can afford them really. Secondly, some people may still live at home or together with some friends who has internet, and so on and so on. Your "logic" might have been true 10 years ago but today that logic falls apart, I think. Ive even read about big American cities getting that new Wimax connection for a very low cost.


If you haven't published anything, you're not a writer. I've published many articles, but I still don't consider myself as a writer. And neither should anyone else if they haven't published anything.

If you claim to be a writer, you should have a good understanding of the language. No editor will edit your text if you can't write. Would I have posted? Yes, but I wouldn't have pointed out the "profession". Now it demonstrated the point more clearly.

Dyslexics have no problem with the grammar. It's a condition where they can not "see" the words clearly. Grammar has nothing to do with it.

Ice