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UKjovi 11-12-2007 10:44 AM

Fuel Protest
 
Do you think another fuel protest will do any good? Ive heard alot about this recently what with the prices going above £1 a litre . Ive noticed that its affecting the prices of everything including food as retailers are having to cover the extra costs. Ive seen a few ideas like this one http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...-fuel-protest/
But do you think it will make any difference ? I know its hitting our business hard as people are less inclined to repair their car when its costing them so much to run. So for me personnaly i'd like to see the prices drop by 20p at least . What do you think?

(Don't)Lie_to_me 11-12-2007 10:58 AM

Well I get the fuel paid for in one car (the GCHQ company car), and the other is a 60mpg SMART so I don't really notice.

Although...i would like the government to tax high CO2 vehicles more (I don't care about climate change but what else could they tax?) and lower fuel duty. If a protest can make fuel cheaper, but allow for the government to still get the same income (lower duty = billions lost for the gov) then go ahead :)

Dawn 11-12-2007 07:21 PM

Im surprised there hasnt been a protest as the last protest the fuel was cheaper than it is now. I want the cost to drop , I know its expensive everywhere , but its a joke here compared to other countries.

Dawn

Thomas Anderson 11-12-2007 07:28 PM

I don't drive, so it doesn't affect me directly (though, as mentioned the cost carries forward to consumers on the cost of other goods) but am I the only one who thinks that we should find a good alternative for fuel for cars? There is only a limited ammount of oil left and regardless of whose figures you read, chances are there won't be any left by the end of this century - and I think we'd do better to not just burn it up by driving around, because we rely so much on plastics now, so when it's gone and we've recycled everything to death then there'll be a problem.

Sara 11-12-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UKjovi (Post 784365)
Do you think another fuel protest will do any good? Ive heard alot about this recently what with the prices going above £1 a litre . Ive noticed that its affecting the prices of everything including food as retailers are having to cover the extra costs. Ive seen a few ideas like this one http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...-fuel-protest/
But do you think it will make any difference ? I know its hitting our business hard as people are less inclined to repair their car when its costing them so much to run. So for me personnaly i'd like to see the prices drop by 20p at least . What do you think?

I don't think protesting will make any difference. People generally just need their car when they have one - I know very little people (if not none) that decide to leave their car and take the bus because of the high fuel prices. And in the end we sort of get used to the higher fuel prices over time anyway. I think the fuel is just over €1.50 per litre here now (£1.05...) - I remember people were shocked when prices just hit €1.40 (£0.98...) - now that just seems cheap.

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Originally Posted by Dawn (Post 784522)
I know its expensive everywhere , but its a joke here compared to other countries.

Lol you should come to The Netherlands - like I said £1 is cheap :D or go to Turkey for that matter - over there you easily pay £1.15 per litre... But it's not like the Turks don't drive their cars because of the insane fuel prices. Whatever governments charge for fuel taxes - people will always drive.

TheseDays2005 11-12-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sara (Post 784542)
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Lol you should come to The Netherlands - like I said £1 is cheap :D or go to Turkey for that matter - over there you easily pay £1.15 per litre... But it's not like the Turks don't drive their cars because of the insane fuel prices. Whatever governments charge for fuel taxes - people will always drive.

yeah prizes in Holland are expensiver and stil rising.

If you ride diesel you can let it run on just flued oil wich you can buy at just a normal supermarket. Lots of folks are doing that here and it shouldn't do any harm to your car.
I did it for a year or so, not driving diesel anymore.

(Don't)Lie_to_me 11-12-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson (Post 784529)
I don't drive, so it doesn't affect me directly (though, as mentioned the cost carries forward to consumers on the cost of other goods) but am I the only one who thinks that we should find a good alternative for fuel for cars? There is only a limited ammount of oil left and regardless of whose figures you read, chances are there won't be any left by the end of this century - and I think we'd do better to not just burn it up by driving around, because we rely so much on plastics now, so when it's gone and we've recycled everything to death then there'll be a problem.

Hydrogen Fuel Cells. You fill up with Hydrogen which is used to generate electricity to power the car. Honda is rleasing such a thing in 2008, about 7-8 years ahead of the development schedule. It'll cost 35k I think, and there is no infrastructure, like Hydrogen pumps.

2020 before anything really happens IMO

Thomas Anderson 11-13-2007 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by (Don't)Lie_to_me (Post 784618)
Hydrogen Fuel Cells. You fill up with Hydrogen which is used to generate electricity to power the car. Honda is rleasing such a thing in 2008, about 7-8 years ahead of the development schedule. It'll cost 35k I think, and there is no infrastructure, like Hydrogen pumps.

2020 before anything really happens IMO

I know nothing of the technology behind anything like that, but surely if they can be run on hydrogen then technically couldn't they be run on water, with only oxygen as waste? Or (presumably) is there not enough hydrogen in water to do that? (I'm really cluless here - chemistry was never my favourite in science)

(Don't)Lie_to_me 11-13-2007 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson (Post 784624)
I know nothing of the technology behind anything like that, but surely if they can be run on hydrogen then technically couldn't they be run on water, with only oxygen as waste? Or (presumably) is there not enough hydrogen in water to do that? (I'm really cluless here - chemistry was never my favourite in science)

Nah, they have to use pure Hydrogen. Hydrogen and oxygen are used to generate electricity by electrolysis and catalysis (wiki it if u want :)) and the only emission through the exhaust is water.

Mongoose 11-13-2007 01:33 AM

You work for GCHQ? Have you not heard of persec? Not the kind of thing I'd be advertising O.o


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