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kenobi_on_a_prayer 04-21-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 820698)
No, it was not. I like Nothing but Nothing and I Am are in the same vein (sound wise) so I think they kept the better of the two.

deb

:confused: If it was never officially released then why was that guy abused in the other thread (about 2 weeks ago IIRC) for not buying the album to get it?

bjcrazycpa 04-21-2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kenobi_on_a_prayer (Post 820700)
:confused: If it was never officially released then why was that guy abused in the other thread (about 2 weeks ago IIRC) for not buying the album to get it?

I must have missed that. But, no, never released by the band as they gave the song to Bo Bice (from American Idol) and it was on his cd.

deb

milomom 04-21-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 820698)
No, it was not. I like Nothing but Nothing and I Am are in the same vein (sound wise) so I think they kept the better of the two.

deb

Thanks, Deb. Considering how thorough I am with my BJ eBay-ing, I figured I'd have seen it if it had been released, but I wanted to make sure. ;)

kenobi_on_a_prayer 04-21-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 820701)
I must have missed that. But, no, never released by the band as they gave the song to Bo Bice (from American Idol) and it was on his cd.

deb

Found it!

http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/sh...ad.php?t=44723

Obviously file sharing isn't allowed hence the thread being locked, but if it was never released by the band, then buying the album doesn't make sense. :-?

danfan 04-21-2008 04:28 PM

I've only heard the pre-release HAND. Never heard I Want To Be Loved. How did it differ?

Bounce7800 04-21-2008 05:49 PM

The album version of HAND had better lyrics, but the demo version sounded better and harder, and the whispering section is good too. Heard clips of Bells and IWTBL but they was no drastic changes on those two.

kenobi_on_a_prayer 04-21-2008 07:09 PM

I haven't heard any other version of I Wanna Be Loved but I prefer the pre-release HAND and Bells (the final version feels too repetitive).

Captain Walrus 04-21-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 820698)
No, it was not. I like Nothing but Nothing and I Am are in the same vein (sound wise) so I think they kept the better of the two.

deb

I think that Nothing is better than I AM (although I know that not all will agree with me), and is probably one of the best songs from the HAND sessions

The HAND demo is nice, if bits from the demo (the chorus lyrics, the quiet bit following the solo) had been combined with bits of the final version (the verse lyrics, the "Ooooooh!" after the solo (either after the quiet bit or somewhere else), and the "Hey!" at the end), it would have made for an even better version of the song IMO, an "ultimate mix" if you will

Dave 1986 04-22-2008 12:59 AM

I remember when Nothing first got leaked onto the net not long after Have A Nice Day was released that everyone thought it was the greatest post 2000 song Bon Jovi ever wrote, saying it's better than I Am. Yeah, it's good, perhaps slightly more daring that what we're used to by the band these days, but it's still nothing spectacular. But had it been the other way round, Nothing made the album, and I Am was dropped, we'd be saying the same thing about I Am

Let's be honest, we're just lucky we're able to listen to both and it's not like Nothing would have ever got released as a single. Even if it did, it wouldn't have set the world on fire or turned the bands public image around for them.

Another issue, it is really stupid why we didn't get these original pre-release version song as b-sides on the HAND singles. Instead we got the same old live tracks we always seem to get. Ah well, I guess there's always the next box set...

Emil 04-22-2008 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by david2k86 (Post 820927)
I remember when Nothing first got leaked onto the net not long after Have A Nice Day was released that everyone thought it was the greatest post 2000 song Bon Jovi ever wrote.

That is actually still my humble opinion. I'm very passionate about that song.


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