Ok fair enough and despite respecting your opinion I still think this has been blown out of all proportion. Nothing really happened other than a coming together and a slight push - hence why neither player was booked. Despite that said and with it being Liverpool and one of the top four then I should have expected nothing less. And my opinion still stands which was Rafa's slight criticism of the players after the game was more than enough and didn't merit any further condemnation or punishment.

I know, it wasn't even that bad.

To be honest it doesn't surprise me that the media has tried to exaggerate the situation and rile people up when there's nothing to the incident. :roll:

How did everyone's team do today, then?

Won 3-1. Keane scored to stop Reina getting golden gloves for fourth year on the run :(

Sorry to hear about Newcastle, mate.

We beat Newcastle to send them crashing into the Championship and most probably into financial meltdown. GOOD TIMES!

Today was probably Gareth Barry's last game in a Villa shirt after 11 great years. BAD TIMES!!

I still think Barry will stay. Just got that feeling.

If he goes for 8mill then that is a bargain.

Aston Villa didn't even try yesterday, and they won very comfortably. Then again, I don't think Newcastle tried either, second half was disgusting.

I don't think you will see Newcastle back in the Premiership for a very long time.

I don't either.

First half Newcastle weren't bad, then they just lost it.

I have been thinking about this for a very long time, and it could go one of two ways.

1. Newcastle will finally sort themselves out, the owner and chairman won't think that any average Joe(Kinnear?) can come in and lead the club. They will get rid of the deadwood, get players in who wnat to do well and rebuild gradually.

Or

2. We will be in League 1 within three years, and be the next Leeds United.

Personally, I think option no.2 is the most likely but who knows.

I think everyone will sit down, plan a few years and work from there. If that means staying in The Championship, they will do that.

there will be a mass exodus but when you think about it that might not be such a bad thing.

viduka, barton, owen, martins, coloccini, jose enrique ...

it will be a good thing to get those guys off the wage bill and start afresh with passionate players who actually care about the side.

The only players I actually want to keep are Bassong, Harper and Beye. Maybe Steven Taylor.

Damien Duff has said he is staying...brilliant. After 12 months of slagging him off, I have to get used to the fact that the most useless player that was in the premier league is staying with us.

sad to see sami sign off for the reds yesterday. a true legend who'll be sorely missed on the kop :(

I don't mind Duff.

Yeah. was sad to see Sami go.

probably on my own here but i'd still take owen back to anfield on a free. admittedly, he wouldn't be an automatic first choice buit what cover do we really have in attack? n'go, voronin?
worth a punt.

I'd probably take him on a free but his career is almost over now. He's not even first choice at Newcastle and his mate is managing the team. He's lost it all. Left us to go and win stuff when we went on to win Champs League & FA Cup.

I really like Michael Owen, a great player who always looked hungry to do well, scored goals, did good for the team.

Sad truth is, he didn't want to come to Newcastle. He hasn't look interested since he got injured at Spurs back in 2005, whether that's because his injuries have affected him or because he is playing at a rubbish club, I don't know. To be honest, it's not a worthy excuse either, I think no matter what you have to give 100% every time you play a game of football and he has not done that for us(in my opinion).

Injuries have let him down, but I think he thinks he is too big for Newcastle when really, it's where he should be now. He's totally lost it and WAS a great player.

I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility for us to take a chance on Owen. Just think what some of our young forwards (Agbonlahor, Young, Delfounso) could learn from him. And with Laursen and Barry (probably) gone, he's be a welcome 'experienced' addition.

Talks have been opened with Barry regarding a new 4-year, £65,000-a-week deal but i don't think he's going to take it. MON has even come out and said they are willing to let him see out his final year of his contract and then leave on a free next summer, that's how much we need him.

i like barry but to sacrifice alonso would be nonsensical.

Barry, in my opinion, will stay.

I hope he does because I want Alonso to stay.

I'd be absolutely gutted if we sold Alonso and especially considering he's been one of our best players this year. Although I don't see why we can't keep Alonso and still get Barry and just play him on the left next season. Doubt he'll cost a ridiculous amount of money either now that he only has one year left to run on his contract.

Exactly. The main reason I would like Barry is because he can play in a lot of positions. He will cover left back if Aurelio gets injured as well. If Alonso goes, I will be gutted!!

I hope the rumours that Everton are still in the hunt for Moutinho of Sporting are true. He would be an amazing signing and a midfield of Pienaar. Arteta, Moutinho, Fellaini and Cahill would be the best we've had for a long time! ;)

Spot on, and that's why Barry would be a good addition to the squad with him being so versatile and being able to cover a number of postions. But not at the sacrifice of Alonso like we've said. As for the other fella mentioning something about bringing Owen back to Anfield. Well to be honest I wouldn't want him back because I think he would spend far more time in the treatment room than what he would warming the bench. Regarding cover for Torres next season I think Rafa will bring someone in during the summer who'll do more than a job for when Torres gets injured/rested.

Didn't he sign a new contract mid-season? I can't imagine we'd be prepared to stump up £16m (at least) for him when he made it quite clear that he turned Everton down last summer. Hardly the sort of attitude Moyes would favour; the last time it happened was Manny Fernandes and Moyes told him to get on his bike.

You going to the final or the beamback at Goodison?

I like the way Moyes is like that. He won't take any crap, all managers should be like that.

Dutch, Yeah, totally agree. We got rid of Anelka & Fowler because Owen got all of the treatment and Heskey would of been a fantastic signing if it wasn't for Houllier wanting Owen to get all the glory!

Yeah he signed a new deal but according to the Blue Kipper and Toffeeweb sites, he has been quoted as saying he feels he could play in the Premiership and that the coach of Everton was after him last season. Sounds like he's up for a move after all. Would love it to be to Goodison!! ;)

I'm not so sure he actually turned us down either. Wasn't it a case of Sporting being as awkward as possible? (admittadly Kenwright probably offered them a pound a week) :rolleyes:

Nah not going to Wembley or the beamback, it'll be family and friends round for some/a lot of bevvies!!! COYB 8)

I think Fowler went the first time around because of the massive training ground bust up he had with Phil Thompson. Do you remember that? If not then Fowler absolutely rifled a ball towards Thompson which just skimmed his skull, and when asked to apologise afterwards he rufused out of principle so he was sent on his way. Agreed over Anelka and I was absolutely gutted when Houllier didn't take up the option to sign him. Not only was he really good for us, but he seemed to be loving life at Anfield and I still think that was one of the few massive clangers Houllier dropped.

Just a quick question for the Everton fans. Have either of you heard about the prospect of Moyes taking Jo on loan again next season? I heard about it a couple days ago on SSN and think there's a good possibility of this happening.

lol was the "either of you" remark a dig? There are more than TWO Everton fans in this forum......surely??? :confused: :)

As for Jo, I've read quotes from Moyes saying we are unlikely to be able to afford to buy him, and when it was put to him whether another loan deal was feasible, he said it wasn't something that had been discussed by either club.
I would be happy to get him for another season long loan, but given our restricted transfer budget, i'd rather the money be spent on Moutinho!!!! :rolleyes:

Kev's knocking about here somewhere too, but I think that's about it.

As for Jo, we definitely won't buy him so a lot rests on whether he's going to feature heavily in Hughes' plans or whether he'd be happy for us to nab him on another loan.

As good a player as Moutinho is, we'd have to spend pretty much our entire budget on one player when, in truth, we need at least one striker and one creative midfielder. I wouldn't rule out a cheeky move for Owen; Moyes made no secret of the fact that he tried to hijack his move to Newcastle so it remains to be seen whether or not he'd still think him worthy of a punt.

Yup I am here, just not had chance to check into here for the last few days. Owen would be a great signing for us...especially on a free transfer, as his contract has expired at Newcastle. We would however have to try and keep the guy injury free, who has spent the majority of the last 3-4 years on the sidelines in one way or another. Moyes needs to be ruthless in this Transfer Window. Our attacking options are pretty limited and we need to bring in another out and out goalscorer who is going to get us 15-20 goals a season. It will be nice to have Yakubu back next season too! :)

Jo has been an okay player for us, but lets be honest, he is still yet to set the Premiership alight. Sorry, but he isn't worth the £18M asking fee. Jamaine Beckford from Leeds has just been transfer listed as he refused to sign a 3 year extention to his existing contract. Not sure how he would deal with playing in the countries top division though. May be worth a shot at around £4M or £5M and we all know how Moyes looks at the lower divisions for tallent... :)

For now...3 days till Wembley! :mrgreen:

I remember that but from what I heard, Fowler was only fooling around (typical Fowler) and Thompson really went mad. Anyway, Houllier & Thompson still wanted Owen to take the glory. If we signed Anelka, that would of been brilliant. He didn't score many, but he was a great loan signing and would of been great if he was permanent.

Beckford transfer listed...I hope Newcastle don't continue their trend of signing anyone Leeds can't keep/don't want etc.

I've never seen Beckford play tbh.

Any good?

letting anelka go was one of GH's gravest errors. that summer ultimately proved his downfall. after finishing 2nd he went out and bought: diouf, diao and cheyrou. we can't afford to make similar errors this time around.

as for jo, there's no way in the world everton should sign him. poor player at that level.

Tell me about it.

Diouf looked amazing in the World Cup in 2002. Cheyrou was meant to be the 'New Zidane' (yeah right) and Diao was just.. well... let's not go there.

According to my mate who is a Leeds fan, he's amazing. However, he thinks Leeds are a big club, so...can't trust his judgment to be perfectly honest.

Hahaha.

By the sounds of things from a lot of other people, he is a quality player...