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UKjovi 07-21-2008 12:59 PM

Bon Jovi outsell everyone else
 
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1003829213

he touring landscape may be tough this summer, but Billboard Boxscore's midyear numbers illustrate that many tours have enjoyed significant success already.

And, with major tours underway after the cutoff dates for our midyear charts, more help is coming. The time frame for Billboard's midyear touring charts runs from Nov. 14, 2007, until May 13 of this year, and during that period Bon Jovi ruled the roost. Promoted worldwide by AEG Live, the tour sold out arenas and stadiums in North America and the Pacific Rim during this period, grossing $112.4 million.

"The fact is that [Bon Jovi] are still current musically and have consistently delivered a live show that has very few equals in terms of musicianship, spectacle and gigantic hits," AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips says. "Whatever concerns I had initially that they might have chosen to go back on the road too soon after the last equally successful tour were quickly dispelled by the early public on-sales."

AEG Live also produced the second-highest-grossing tour of the period, the Spice Girls reunion, which took in more than $70 million from 45 shows. Coming in third for this time period is the Police reunion tour, which topped all touring charts in 2007 and likely will top others before 2008 is done.

Produced by Arthur Fogel at Live Nation and Bill Zysblat at RZO Productions, the Police will follow up a summer amphitheater run (the band's first) with a final gig Aug. 7 at Madison Square Garden in New York. At that point, the Police will have played 146 shows (not including festivals), moved 3.3 million tickets and grossed $359 million, enough to make this the third-highest-grossing tour of all time.

Rounding out the top 10 are the Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus tour ($45.3 million), the holiday blockbuster Trans-Siberian Orchestra ($44.8 million), Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band ($42 million), the Van Halen reunion tour ($40.2 million), Michael Buble ($36.6 million), Take That ($32.5 million) and Jay-Z/Mary J. Blige ($30.3 million).

As always, the top tour rankings will change substantially by year's end, though the Police, Bon Jovi and Springsteen will still be near the top. But with tours just getting underway by Coldplay, Celine Dion, Kenny Chesney, Rascal Flatts, the Jonas Brothers and Tim McGraw, and upcoming tours by Tina Turner, Madonna and Neil Diamond, some different names will grace the list.

There will also be some unexpected appearances in the rankings, like the surging New Kids on the Block reunion tour.

steel_horse75 07-21-2008 03:39 PM

£55m grossed on LH Tour....
 
biggest Grossing tour of the year so far accordding to reports

2nd? the spice girls

Peterson 07-21-2008 04:00 PM

lol, was just gonna post this myself ;)

Also found this....

Link

Aquamarin 07-21-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alanp69 (Post 867483)
lol, was just gonna post this myself ;)

Also found this....

Link

Awww...poor "The Feeling".
I really pity them...I guess they would have really appreciated to meet up with the band.

lmao. :lol:

Peterson 07-21-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquamarin (Post 867510)
Awww...poor "The Feeling".
I really pity them...I guess they would have really appreciated to meet up with the band.

lmao. :lol:

I thought they would have been sitting backstage with the band etc, not being totally snubbed.

Goldsausage 07-21-2008 04:34 PM

That is pretty nasty.

TheseDays2005 07-21-2008 04:36 PM

Its says grossed so it doesnt say **** all. For all you know they had $56 million costs....

(Don't)Lie_to_me 07-21-2008 04:50 PM

"We were treated like a support act"

Never! :rolleyes:

Goldsausage 07-21-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by (Don't)Lie_to_me (Post 867523)
"We were treated like a support act"

Never! :rolleyes:

They were a billed band! We must never forget that.

Mad4Jovi 07-21-2008 04:58 PM

How about the reason that Bon Jovi "out sold" other bands and were the higest grossing act was due to the fact they were also the highest priced with this tours ticket price hikes?

Not hard to beat everyone else with gross takings when you're charging almost twice the price per ticket :rolleyes:

RichieW2001 07-21-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 867518)
Its says grossed so it doesnt say **** all. For all you know they had $56 million costs....

I doubt it very much. For the arena tour, they were averaging $1m (£500k) per week in costs, which would give them a pretty healthy bottom line given that the figures are from November to May and factoring in the first month being static at one venue.

RichieW2001 07-21-2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad4Jovi (Post 867528)
How about the reason that Bon Jovi "out sold" other bands and were the higest grossing act was due to the fact they were also the highest priced with this tours ticket price hikes?

Not hard to beat everyone else with gross takings when you're charging almost twice the price per ticket :rolleyes:

I'd say it's more to do with sheer volume of gigs. The Spice Girls tickets were more expensive that Bon Jovi and I wouldn't imagine that Bruce's were too much different.

UKjovi 07-21-2008 05:29 PM

Yes they were bloody expencive but then alot of the bigger groups tickets were expencive too. So it must be due to the fact they did 99 shows.

RichieW2001 07-21-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UKjovi (Post 867537)
Yes they were bloody expencive but then alot of the bigger groups tickets were expencive too. So it must be due to the fact they did 99 shows.

These figures don't include any shows after the middle of May, so I would imagine their total tour gross is significantly higher, including the stadium leg in Europe.

Mad4Jovi 07-21-2008 06:02 PM

I agree they've also played more shows that The Spice Girls but given stadium capacity in Europe and the duplicate leg in North America I don't see how those tours can really be compared anyway.

What you can compare is the face value ticket price. In the USA it doubled from last tour and in the UK the price of Gold Standing for all shows was at the highest level throughout rather then regional like the previous two tours. Don't tell me this had no impact on them being the highest grossing tour. In 06 the Rolling Stones kicked Jovi's ass on tour grosses but their prices were astronomical. Bon Jovi just followed suit.

I'd love to compare a Bon Jovi tour with a U2 tour in the same economic climate, so it would need to be at the same time. Seeing as Jon refuses to go head to head with U2 on a live basis and actively avoids touring at the same time, I guess I'll never be able to.

RichieW2001 07-21-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad4Jovi (Post 867548)
I agree they've also played more shows that The Spice Girls but given stadium capacity in Europe and the duplicate leg in North America I don't see how those tours can really be compared anyway.

What you can compare is the face value ticket price. In the USA it doubled from last tour and in the UK the price of Gold Standing for all shows was at the highest level throughout rather then regional like the previous two tours. Don't tell me this had no impact on them being the highest grossing tour. In 06 the Rolling Stones kicked Jovi's ass on tour grosses but their prices were astronomical. Bon Jovi just followed suit.

I'd love to compare a Bon Jovi tour with a U2 tour in the same economic climate, so it would need to be at the same time. Seeing as Jon refuses to go head to head with U2 on a live basis and actively avoids touring at the same time, I guess I'll never be able to.

This only goes as far as the beginning of May, so the majority of the stadium shows aren't included.

liljovi93 07-21-2008 06:15 PM

I think that's a bit mean myself.
All they could off done was said "Hi"
Bit mean i think...

TheseDays2005 07-21-2008 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieW2001 (Post 867530)
I doubt it very much. For the arena tour, they were averaging $1m (£500k) per week in costs, which would give them a pretty healthy bottom line given that the figures are from November to May and factoring in the first month being static at one venue.

Yeah I know they wouldn't actually lose money on the tour, the 56m costs were merely a example.
Nevertheless, Gross amounts don't say anything, a average cost of 1m per week also not. Are those actual invoiced costs, or the real total costs divided by weeks toured. Surely lots of costs are being made before start started, are they included?
It would be interesting to see the actual P&L accounts....which will never happen..

RichieW2001 07-21-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 867552)
Yeah I know they wouldn't actually lose money on the tour, the 56m costs were merely a example.
Nevertheless, Gross amounts don't say anything, a average cost of 1m per week also not. Are those actual invoiced costs, or the real total costs divided by weeks toured. Surely lots of costs are being made before start started, are they included?
It would be interesting to see the actual P&L accounts....which will never happen..

They were averaging $1m a week for the arena shows and $2m a week for the stadium shows. That came from the interview Jon did with 60 Minutes a while back. Dissect it all you wish, they're certainly the biggest, and in all likelihood the most profitable, tour this year. You won't see a P&L no, because they have no requirement to produce one.

TheseDays2005 07-21-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieW2001 (Post 867556)
They were averaging $1m a week for the arena shows and $2m a week for the stadium shows. That came from the interview Jon did with 60 Minutes a while back. Dissect it all you wish, they're certainly the biggest, and in all likelihood the most profitable, tour this year. You won't see a P&L no, because they have no requirement to produce one.

I wasn't diseccting the turn-over part really. Surely they keep some sort of P&L even having no requirement - if only for internal use.
Anyhow, they were the biggest in turn-over but a band as BJ surely have a totally different cost-range then a 'smaller' band - just look at the crew. Therefore being the most profitable I really wouldn't assume especcialy considiring it as % on the gross amount.
All I wanted to say even with Jon saying 1m and 2m costs, no-one has any idea what included in that. You can't just say 55m -/- (1m . x weeks) = profit and from that make the assumption profit-wise.
And in such way, if the costs were avering 1m per week it means they were only doing break-even on the arena shows as Jon said they were making 1m per week (= costs per week) during that period. Even if it were on average as some weeks they did more gigs then other It doesn't makes sence and doesn't say anything.
In the end its all a bit geuss anyway.

Mongoose 07-21-2008 06:49 PM

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Bassist RICHARD JONES added: “We were treated like a support act, which was strange considering we were a billed band.”

er, what?...

RichieW2001 07-21-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 867559)
I wasn't diseccting the turn-over part really. Surely they keep some sort of P&L even having no requirement - if only for internal use.
Anyhow, they were the biggest in turn-over but a band as BJ surely have a totally different cost-range then a 'smaller' band - just look at the crew. Therefore being the most profitable I really wouldn't assume especcialy considiring it as % on the gross amount.
All I wanted to say even with Jon saying 1m and 2m costs, no-one has any idea what included in that. You can't just say 55m -/- (1m . x weeks) = profit and from that make the assumption profit-wise.
And in such way, if the costs were avering 1m per week it means they were only doing break-even on the arena shows as Jon said they were making 1m per week (= costs per week) during that period. It doesn't makes sence and doesn't say anything.
In the end its all a bit geuss anyway.

I'm not stupid enough to think that Billboard figures - something Jon said on TV = profit, but in the absence of any other information, it's as good as you'll get. And yeh, the tour accountant will probably produce daily, if not weekly, P&Ls but there is no requirement for them to be filed as I would imagine it all goes through AEG's books. I'm a bit unfamiliar with touring and how it all filters through, but there'll be some sort of public trail somewhere.

You're getting mixed up here with your currencies. Cost were $1m a week, not £1m. Even at a conservative estimate of 50,000 seats per week at an average of $50 a ticket (which is not representative at all), they were doing far better than breaking even. Jon's a decent businessman with a good, knowledgeable team around him; if they didn't think they could make substantial returns on this tour as opposed to flogging something else, they wouldn't have done it.

RichieW2001 07-21-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 867560)
er, what?...

I thought that one was pretty funny. Sorta like the Daughtry fans who thought they should be playing a set equal in length to Bon Jovi's. Amusing how people seem to lose perspective.

Mr Bluesman 07-21-2008 07:09 PM

They were treated like a support band because that's exactly what they were. Get over it.

bjcrazycpa 07-23-2008 03:31 AM

I just received my Billboard magazine. It's the 7/26 issue with Foreigner on the cover. The article is pretty much what has been posted but the numbers are as follows:

Boxscores from November 14th to May 13, 2008

Total Gross
$112,471,918
Total Attendance
1,164,945
Total Capacity
1,166,623
No. of shows
70
No. of sellouts
60

The spice girls are a very distant second with a gross of $70M and 581K in attendance.

Also, there is a big ad in the middle that says, "Found Along The Lost Highway...." and at the bottom "The #1 Tour Worldwide". Then in the middle are all these road type signs from the various US arenas most have sold out stamped on them. It's very cool!!

It will be interesting to see the numbers once the Europe and final summer shows are included. :D

deb

RSROCKS 07-23-2008 03:58 AM

Thanks for posting the numbers Deb!

bjcrazycpa 07-23-2008 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RSROCKS (Post 867967)
Thanks for posting the numbers Deb!

No problem! :D

deb

Bon Jovi Princess 08-02-2008 04:39 PM

Bon Jovi are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanxs for posting just had to say it they are THE BEST!!!!!!!!!





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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 867962)
I just received my Billboard magazine. It's the 7/26 issue with Foreigner on the cover. The article is pretty much what has been posted but the numbers are as follows:

Boxscores from November 14th to May 13, 2008

Total Gross
$112,471,918
Total Attendance
1,164,945
Total Capacity
1,166,623
No. of shows
70
No. of sellouts
60

The spice girls are a very distant second with a gross of $70M and 581K in attendance.

Also, there is a big ad in the middle that says, "Found Along The Lost Highway...." and at the bottom "The #1 Tour Worldwide". Then in the middle are all these road type signs from the various US arenas most have sold out stamped on them. It's very cool!!

It will be interesting to see the numbers once the Europe and final summer shows are included. :D

deb



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