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liljovi93 04-15-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RichieW2001 (Post 916285)
Eh? Explain yourself...

Here we go!

Ok... First of all we're on the attack, he is off the pitch after getting tackled, sees that we aren't going to stop for him so then he rolls back onto the pitch and the ref blows up. Ok, we're not in the box and he blows up but we were halfway into there half and he stops.

He done nothing but dive all game! He stayed on the floor for about a min or 2 and the ref didn't add it on.

He went down way too easily for Alex's freekick.

The amount of times I screamed at the TV screaming his name for being a cheat is unbelievable.

RS8MB0R8 04-15-2009 02:16 AM

I would agree and he is renowned for it.

I am fully aware we have a diving tw*t amongst the Old Trafford ranks too but I can say with hand on heart that it annoys the hell out of me when Ronaldo gets decisions go for him when he cheats. It's doubly frustrating actually because when he is genuinely fouled, more times than not, the decision goes against him and United suffer for it.

Drogba always has been and always will be scum and oh, how I laughed when he was sent off in last year's final.

Oh well, Barca will teach Chelsea a lesson in the semis and it will be the sweet smell of irony if the Nou Camp's own resident diver, Lionel Messi, takes a fabricated tumble and ends up 'conning' the penalty that sees them knocked out.

I fancy United's chances if we can notch a couple of goals tomorrow, but against Barca in the final? Not likely! :(

DevilsSon 04-15-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 916295)

Oh well, Barca will teach Chelsea a lesson in the semis and it will be the sweet smell of irony if the Nou Camp's own resident diver, Lionel Messi, takes a fabricated tumble and ends up 'conning' the penalty that sees them knocked out.

Messi a diver? What Messi are you talking about?

RichieW2001 04-15-2009 11:56 AM

As much as I hate Drogba, he didn't cost you anything last night. You can't honestly say that him rolling back onto the pitch stopped you scoring, can you? I'd blame the referee for stopping play rather than Drogba.

I watched the match from start to finish and have read countless articles and heard numerous pundits talking about the game and not one has mentioned any controversial decisions made. This includes, I might add, Mr Liverpool himself, Jim Beglin who is usually so biased, he may aswell be strutting about the commentary box in a Liverpool shirt, singing You'll Never Walk Alone.

That said, it was a wonderful game for the neutral to watch. Liverpool were incredibly unlucky after all their hard work, but committing numbers forward took its toll at the back in the end.

As for Messi; he's the model professional, I'm not sure I've ever seen him take a dive. The nature of the game is such that you play for a free kick in a dangerous position and go down under the challenge. That isn't diving, it's just clever football and something one of our best players, Arteta, does all the time.

RS8MB0R8 04-15-2009 01:53 PM

Messi's one of the biggest cheats in the game IMO - you only need to type in "Messi" and "handball" into youtube and take a look at some of his antics. It's sad when such evidently gifted sportsmen/women have to resort to cheating to gain an edge over the opposition.

I was actually shouting at the TV at some of the decisions that went Chelsea's way last night. All players had to do was fall over and the game would be stopped - Chelsea picked up on this very quickly. I've never rated Cantalejo as a good enough referee to officiate games at this level and he didn't help his case in the game last night. One incident stands out a mile to me and that was in the second half where Chelsea hastily lofted a clearance from their box skywards and Anelka slowly backed himself into the Liverpool player (I think it was Alonso) that had taken up position beneath it, fell over and got a free-kick awarded. Alonso had the correct position but because Anelka backed into him and took a tumble, Chelsea relieved the pressure. It was so obvious, it almost happened in slow-motion due to the pause before the ball reached the pitch.

It was like that all night and Drogba was writhing around in apparent agony on a number of occasions and the incident that saw him roll back on to the pitch to get the game stopped should have seen him booked. It was a deliberate attempt to force the situation in Chelsea's favour. Fair enough, you can argue that the ref didn't need to stop the game but it's the intent of Drogba that is the annoying factor here, not the fact that the ref made just another of a number of bad calls.

I am a fan of neither side and as a neutral, I can honestly say that Chelsea had the benefit of about 90% of the contentious decisions yesterday. They disrupted the flow of the game and used that to their advantage. Bad refereeing IMHO.

KeepTheFaith2211 04-15-2009 02:41 PM

I hope Arsenal win the Champions League this year. :)

They haven't won a trophy for a few years now, and have a very good young side to work with. They were close to winning the league last season but couldn't hold on so here's to them winning the Champions League.

liljovi93 04-15-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 916329)
Messi's one of the biggest cheats in the game IMO - you only need to type in "Messi" and "handball" into youtube and take a look at some of his antics. It's sad when such evidently gifted sportsmen/women have to resort to cheating to gain an edge over the opposition.

I was actually shouting at the TV at some of the decisions that went Chelsea's way last night. All players had to do was fall over and the game would be stopped - Chelsea picked up on this very quickly. I've never rated Cantalejo as a good enough referee to officiate games at this level and he didn't help his case in the game last night. One incident stands out a mile to me and that was in the second half where Chelsea hastily lofted a clearance from their box skywards and Anelka slowly backed himself into the Liverpool player (I think it was Alonso) that had taken up position beneath it, fell over and got a free-kick awarded. Alonso had the correct position but because Anelka backed into him and took a tumble, Chelsea relieved the pressure. It was so obvious, it almost happened in slow-motion due to the pause before the ball reached the pitch.

It was like that all night and Drogba was writhing around in apparent agony on a number of occasions and the incident that saw him roll back on to the pitch to get the game stopped should have seen him booked. It was a deliberate attempt to force the situation in Chelsea's favour. Fair enough, you can argue that the ref didn't need to stop the game but it's the intent of Drogba that is the annoying factor here, not the fact that the ref made just another of a number of bad calls.

I am a fan of neither side and as a neutral, I can honestly say that Chelsea had the benefit of about 90% of the contentious decisions yesterday. They disrupted the flow of the game and used that to their advantage. Bad refereeing IMHO.

It was Benayoun who Anelka backed himself into.

Benayoun got a yellow card for it and then 2 mins later, Ivanovic done some bad tackle on Aurelio I think it was and didn't get anything.

Ref was crap!

severo17 04-15-2009 08:13 PM

Looks like I'm betraying Manchester United today but... GO PORTO! :p
It's good for the portuguese football to have a portuguese team on the semi-finals of the Champions :D

RS8MB0R8 04-15-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by severo17 (Post 916374)
Looks like I'm betraying Manchester United today but... GO PORTO! :p
It's good for the portuguese football to have a portuguese team on the semi-finals of the Champions :D

I used to like you! :p

:lol:

severo17 04-15-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 916376)
I used to like you! :p

:lol:

Hahaha. :D

The country comes first my friend! (Sometimes...) :cool:

severo17 04-15-2009 10:35 PM

Manchester is winning 1-0 at half time... what a goal by Ronaldo!

RS8MB0R8 04-15-2009 10:37 PM

What a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

United have obviously had a boot up their arse but it's amazing what having an almost fully fit squad does. Even Berbatov is having a good game. Vidic and Carrick look the most shaky but hopefully, with Anderson, Giggs and Rooney pulling the strings in the middle of the park, Ronaldo may get some more chances. It's fantastic to see the United players getting back to defend in numbers and just crowding their key players out of the game.

Fingers crossed it stays this way - although another United goal would be very welcome! Vidic should have scored but how he missed from 4yds out...?!?!?! :?

severo17 04-15-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 916404)
Fingers crossed it stays this way - although another United goal would be very welcome! Vidic should have scored but how he missed from 4yds out...?!?!?! :?

Bad Luck :p
He touched bad the ball.

liljovi93 04-15-2009 11:37 PM

Great goal.

Looks like Man Utd are through.

I think they will beat Arsenal aswell.

RS8MB0R8 04-15-2009 11:37 PM

Woohoo! United through to the semis!!!! :D

liljovi93 04-15-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 916412)
Woohoo! United through to the semis!!!! :D

Congratulations!

severo17 04-15-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 916412)
Woohoo! United through to the semis!!!! :D

Congrats mate! :p
I'm still happy with this result, and I hope that the final will be a Manchester United - Barcelona.

What a great game that will be :D

liljovi93 04-16-2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by severo17 (Post 916414)
Congrats mate! :p
I'm still happy with this result, and I hope that the final will be a Manchester United - Barcelona.

What a great game that will be :D

Come on Barca!

severo17 04-16-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 916416)
Come on Barca!

Nah... Come On United, mate :(

liljovi93 04-16-2009 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by severo17 (Post 916420)
Nah... Come On United, mate :(

Never speak to me again!

severo17 04-16-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 916421)
Never speak to me again!

Alright... I won't :p

Stil..... GO UNITED ! :D

RS8MB0R8 04-16-2009 12:42 AM

Yeah, I don't like writing teams off but I felt that if United could overcome the hurdle of winning in Porto tonight, it was gonna be a Barca vs United final. If United do get there, I expect them to win it as well - under normal circumstances, I would say Barca would edge it but the prospect of making history may just give United that extra drive and motivation to get the job done.

We'll see anyway, I'm just glad we're through. It would have been nice to get a second goal to kill the tie... not to mention the nerves. :)

liljovi93 04-16-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 916432)
Yeah, I don't like writing teams off but I felt that if United could overcome the hurdle of winning in Porto tonight, it was gonna be a Barca vs United final. If United do get there, I expect them to win it as well - under normal circumstances, I would say Barca would edge it but the prospect of making history may just give United that extra drive and motivation to get the job done.

We'll see anyway, I'm just glad we're through. It would have been nice to get a second goal to kill the tie... not to mention the nerves. :)

Hahaha. Ah well. At least you can say you made it to the semis :(

mo_rizwan 04-16-2009 02:28 AM

Never Underestimate The Gunners!!!!!

RS8MB0R8 04-16-2009 02:57 AM

I won't believe me - ultimately they could decide whether or not United win the CL and/or the Premier League before this season's over! ;)

I just felt that the away game at Porto would be a greater test of character than two legs against the Gunners. As I said though - we'll have to see...

mo_rizwan 04-29-2009 02:55 AM

Still can't believe Barca had trouble scoring.....(?)

RS8MB0R8 04-29-2009 10:05 AM

Chelsea: And this is how you park the bus, park the bus, park the bus. This is the way you park the bus - ALL GAME LONG! :D

To be fair, given how United faired against them last season in the semis, I don't blame them and any visiting team should be glad of a 0-0 at the Nou Camp. I still don't think Chelsea have the quality to make it past them and reckon Barca will nick it on the away goal.

RS8MB0R8 04-29-2009 10:36 PM

Should be 6-0 already! :roll:

RS8MB0R8 04-30-2009 10:57 AM

Great game for United - they looked the best I've seen them play in many months! The only crappy thing from our perspective is that they didn't put more goals past a lacklustre Arsenal side and finish the tie in the first leg. Credit to Almunia though, at least he actually turned up to play and it'll be him that saved the Gunners if they do manage to scrape through next week.

We just need an away goal to clinch it now I reckon. :)

Barca - United in the final IMO.

DevilsSon 04-30-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 918605)
Great game for United - they looked the best I've seen them play in many months! The only crappy thing from our perspective is that they didn't put more goals past a lacklustre Arsenal side and finish the tie in the first leg. Credit to Almunia though, at least he actually turned up to play and it'll be him that saved the Gunners if they do manage to scrape through next week.

We just need an away goal to clinch it now I reckon. :)

Barca - United in the final IMO.

Ahh, was one of the worst games I have seen the whole season. Fast-paced indeed but overall, just average. Granted, ManU was the better team, but I don't think anything is decided yet. Arsenal can still win it. Arsenal - Chelsea final, fingers crossed.

RS8MB0R8 04-30-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 918624)
Ahh, was one of the worst games I have seen the whole season. Fast-paced indeed but overall, just average. Granted, ManU was the better team, but I don't think anything is decided yet. Arsenal can still win it. Arsenal - Chelsea final, fingers crossed.

Did you watch the Barca-Chelsea game on the other day?!? :)

I hope United remembered to book that Arsenal side to play against next Tuesday anyway! :D

liljovi93 05-02-2009 05:02 PM

It does my head in when brilliant teams like Barca can never do well against English teams.

It just proves how easy La Liga is. The second best team in Spain, Real Madrid, we battered over the two legs. Barcelona play at home, haven't not scored at their ground all season and don't play well at all. They can pass a ball brilliant but they seem to leave it too long to shoot.

Lionel Messi has not once looked good against an English team either. He was ok against Man U last season, but that was about it!

KeepTheFaith2211 05-02-2009 05:31 PM

I think it's more of a case of English football being crap, in the sense that the four big teams at the top won't be broken up for a long time. Almost as bad as SPL.

liljovi93 05-02-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 918926)
I think it's more of a case of English football being crap, in the sense that the four big teams at the top won't be broken up for a long time. Almost as bad as SPL.

That's not crap in a sense though. It's up to other teams to beat them. Barca & Madrid are without a doubt the best 2 teams in Spain but they find it hard to beat an English side.

DevilsSon 05-02-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 918926)
I think it's more of a case of English football being crap, in the sense that the four big teams at the top won't be broken up for a long time. Almost as bad as SPL.

in Spain it's just 2. Have you seen the distance between Barca+Real(1 and 2) and Valencia+Sevilla(3+4)? Must be about 20 points now. Or in Italy, there's just one team, INTER. At least in the UK there's 4. That's better than most other leagues.

liljovi93 05-02-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 918932)
in Spain it's just 2. Have you seen the distance between Barca+Real(1 and 2) and Valencia+Sevilla(3+4)? Must be about 20 points now. Or in Italy, there's just one team, INTER. At least in the UK there's 4. That's better than most other leagues.

Exactly.

The prem is the best league in the world.

DevilsSon 05-02-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 918933)
Exactly.

The prem is the best league in the world.

I meant England up there, not the UK :P sorry about that.

And yeah, the premiership is the best league in the world. I don't think there's any doubt about that.

DevilsSon 05-03-2009 01:21 AM

My God, Barcelona trashed Real Madrid 6-2. Unbelievable. This year's Barca side is out of this world. They scored more than 100 goals in La Liga. Unbelievable. Un****inbelievable. I think they deserve the CL too, though I still hope for Arsenal or Chelsea.

liljovi93 05-03-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 919049)
My God, Barcelona trashed Real Madrid 6-2. Unbelievable. This year's Barca side is out of this world. They scored more than 100 goals in La Liga. Unbelievable. Un****inbelievable. I think they deserve the CL too, though I still hope for Arsenal or Chelsea.

That's what I'm saying. They dominate in La Liga but aren't doing it v English sides.

DevilsSon 05-03-2009 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 919057)
That's what I'm saying. They dominate in La Liga but aren't doing it v English sides.

Well, I don't know what game you've seen last week, but they totally dominated Chelsea. There's Chelsea die-hards I know saying Chelsea have never ever been dominated like that. And honestly speaking, on a normal day, Barca should pass Chelsea. I am still hoping for a bad day next Wednesday. Same for ManU :P


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