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Myguitar 12-05-2008 07:35 PM

Coldplay
 
There were always plenty good, valid reasons to downright hate this group of phonies and posers.

Add this as one of them!


jade4jovi 12-05-2008 07:41 PM

Oh shut up.

I'm so bored of this "this band copied that band" bullshit it's boring. Why doesn't someone just make an official thread on this board, and we can all put all the songs copied. :rolleyes:

Myguitar 12-05-2008 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jade4jovi (Post 892705)
Oh shut up.

I'm so bored of this "this band copied that band" bullshit it's boring. Why doesn't someone just make an official thread on this board, and we can all put all the songs copied. :rolleyes:

Fair enough. There are many copies out there, BJ have done some but so has everyone else.

But this is a blatant rip-off. The melody is the same and the backing chord progression is identical.

jade4jovi 12-05-2008 07:49 PM

Just don't listen to it?

I just don't get the point of crying over this. I also think there's a thin line between copying, and getting inspiration. You'd have to hate A LOT of bands if you're going to go by this.

crashed 12-05-2008 07:56 PM

I still dislike Coldplay.

This thread has nothing to do with that dislike at all.

Myguitar 12-05-2008 07:59 PM

Pop bands that blatantly copy something note for note, yes I do hate them. Well, I hate pop bands anyway.

This is not "inspiration", this is very much a clear copy. Had it been inspiration, as you say, then I wouldn't bother posting it.

Did you listen to the whole track? The fact that the overdub is an almost perfect match is disturbing. You may not care as much cause you probably like whatever music you listen to because "it's catchy". I like composition, being that I've played instruments all my life.

This doesn't really bother me, but being that for some unknown reason people seem to think Coldplay are geniuses, innovators etc, it's quite enjoyable to point and laugh at them.

Shananigans!

zero_zero_UFO 12-05-2008 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashed (Post 892708)
I still dislike Coldplay.

This thread has nothing to do with that dislike at all.

same.

if i did like them this wouldn't make me hate them or anything.

Thunderstrucker 12-05-2008 08:08 PM

I maybe like a few songs of Coldplay, but that will be the studioversions. Chris Martin can't sing one song good live. Pity.

I salute you,
Thunderstrucker

jade4jovi 12-05-2008 08:10 PM

I just have a hard time believing all these bands that are accused of copying other bands, really sit there and think "yes, I shall copy that" But I don't know, maybe I am wrong. But either way it's not going to make me automaticaly dislike a band.

I like some music because it's catchy. But mostly I like music that I feel have great lyrics (I know Bon Jovi have some shit lyrics, but the one's they do well they do damn well IMO.:p) And also the emotion. That's the two main things I usually look for.

And yes, I happen to think Coldplay are fantastic in both areas. When I listen to most of their songs the emotion overwhelms me. I don't personally get how people don't get it. I mean come on - The Scientist!? Trouble!? In My Place?! etc. But I guess that's the shit/beauty in life - everybody sees things differently.

I just get a bit annoyed with these types of threads, because there's been so much talk about it on here. And I say just don't ****ing listen if you don't like it. I mean...I'm not making a thread banging on about how much I hate Busted and McFly or whoever. Why? Because I just don't listen to it if I don't like it...simple!

Supersonic 12-05-2008 08:31 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by jade4jovi (Post 892712)
I just have a hard time believing all these bands that are accused of copying other bands, really sit there and think "yes, I shall copy that" But I don't know, maybe I am wrong.

There's no maybe about this one and you're wrong. It's so ****ing obvious and there's no reason for any doubt whatsoever. I don't really understand why you have a hard time believing it this time and all the other times people have posted examples. The example shows a perfect match and yet you think Chris Martin wrote the melody himself? Considering the millions of possibilities you have when writing a song it's actually harder to believe that he didn't steal it. :|

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

crashed 12-05-2008 08:33 PM

The thing that gets me about Coldplay is they seem to be made out to be one of the greatest bands ever by the media and fans etc., and I just don't see that about them at all.

Sure, it's all opinions - but most reviews I've read hail them as geniuses and stuff like that - which is kinda' going a bit far.

And I think Chris Martin's pretty arrogant these days. I remember reading an interview with him in Q about maybe 8 or 9 years ago when really, they were nobody - I think this was even before "Yellow" had become a hit - and they were just playing all the European festivals. From that interview they came across as pretty humble guys - they mentioned Bon Jovi a lot and seemed to have a lot of respect for them and it was clear that they would consider themselves to have done well if they even had a slither of that kind of success...A decade later - well, Chris Martin just comes across as a total egomaniac.

The first single off of their new album I thought was the biggest pile of rubbish I've heard in a long time - and Jade I think we've discussed their lyrics before in chat, and even in my favourite song by them, Clocks, I think the lyrics are actually quite silly and do nothing at all for me.

To me, the only songs that comes close to be being good are Clocks and Fix You. The rest I think are whiny, bland, and just lacking something - call it a soul maybe.

ponrauil 12-05-2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderstrucker (Post 892711)
I maybe like a few songs of Coldplay, but that will be the studioversions. Chris Martin can't sing one song good live. Pity.

I salute you,
Thunderstrucker

Saw them live and that's just not true, they are good at delivering their material live, wether you like the material itself or not is another issue.


Ponrauil

Kathleen 12-05-2008 08:54 PM

In today's New York Times
 
December 5, 2008, 10:45 am

Joe Satriani Sues Coldplay for Cold Plagiarism
By Dave Itzkoff

While it’s hard to imagine that anyone could effectively imitate the sound of the rock-guitar virtuoso Joe Satriani, Mr. Satriani seems to hear more than just his influence in the music of others. Reuters reported that on Thursday, he filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against the British rock quartet Coldplay, which says that the Coldplay song “Viva La Vida” makes use of “substantial original portions” of his composition “If I Could Fly,” an instrumental track. The suit, filed in federal court in Los Angeles County, is asking for a jury trial, damages, and any profits Coldplay gained from the song. On Wednesday, “Viva La Vida” was nominated for Grammy Awards for song of the year and record of the year.

Ferret 12-05-2008 10:15 PM

I used to hate them, but now I like Coldplay. They're a good band, nothing more, nothing less. I don't really care if they ripped off some song, everyone does it. Their last two albums have been complete shit, but they've got some good/great songs on all of them, especially the first two.

Good band for a bit of soft rock, really.

kenobi_on_a_prayer 12-06-2008 10:13 AM

I never got the hype with Coldplay but I don't hate them either. The Scientist is quite special to me.

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Thierry 12-06-2008 11:28 AM

This is the band I hate most.. Terrible, terrible band.

Jim Bon Jovi 12-06-2008 01:37 PM

the 1st few bars are nigh on identical but the rest.......

it's a simple progression and a really contrite melody when you get down to it so i really doubt it's been done on purpose.

i think the funniest thing about this whole situation is that it actually sounds like a karaoke version of the coldplay tune.

Captain Walrus 12-06-2008 04:48 PM

Coldplay are alright. I don't own any of their albums, but most of their singles are pretty good. There's any number of bands I like much better, but that doesn't mean I dislike Coldplay

RSROCKS 12-06-2008 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi (Post 892800)
i think the funniest thing about this whole situation is that it actually sounds like a karaoke version of the coldplay tune.

It does, especially when you listen to both of them at the same time! That being said, they are obviously similar so I hope Satriani gets awarded some dough because I'm sure that ass Chris Martin has made quite a bit on that song.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 892793)
This is the band I hate most.. Terrible, terrible band.

Well you may be in luck because I remember reading an article recently from Chris Martin saying that they were going to retire soon because he thinks bands that exist past their mid 30s are out of their prime. I guess since they are nearing that point only time will tell if he's serious or full of shit.

Jim Bon Jovi 12-06-2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSROCKS (Post 892820)
It does, especially when you listen to both of them at the same time! That being said, they are obviously similar so I hope Satriani gets awarded some dough because I'm sure that ass Chris Martin has made quite a bit on that song.

doesn't matter if chris martin has made a tonne of money from it. if it isn't a concentrated rip off (which this isn't and shouldn't be regarded as in a court of law) then satriani isn't entitled to a penny.

RSROCKS 12-06-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi (Post 892822)
doesn't matter if chris martin has made a tonne of money from it. if it isn't a concentrated rip off (which this isn't and shouldn't be regarded as in a court of law) then satriani isn't entitled to a penny.

I'll wait to hear the outcome thanks.

slippery89 12-07-2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderstrucker (Post 892711)
I maybe like a few songs of Coldplay, but that will be the studioversions. Chris Martin can't sing one song good live. Pity.

I salute you,
Thunderstrucker

I disagree, I think Coldplay are pretty damn good. I might not like all of their songs, but they're good. I also disagree about Chris Martin singing live, he can sing live and he has a pretty good voice.


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