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Crushgen24/88 09-25-2009 08:47 AM

http://www.u2.com/news/title/giant-numbers-in-jersey
That's pretty cool, though apparently someone fell from Section 301-101 after the show ended.

ticos_stick 09-25-2009 10:07 PM

It amazes me that U2 had Muse as support.

Muse are clearly the better live band.

mo_rizwan 09-27-2009 05:10 AM

Roger Friedman Review of Giants Show:
http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/bono...avaganza-show/

mo_rizwan 10-26-2009 03:43 PM

Did anyone else catch the LIVE show on YouTube?

It was Bloody Awesome! :)

milomom 10-27-2009 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mo_rizwan (Post 950775)
Did anyone else catch the LIVE show on YouTube?

It was Bloody Awesome! :)

I watched/listened to some of it. I'm not a U2 fan (Bono gives me a pain), but the streaming was very well done. Spectacular event to toss out there for one and all!

Kathleen 10-27-2009 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by milomom (Post 951128)
I watched/listened to some of it. I'm not a U2 fan (Bono gives me a pain), but the streaming was very well done. Spectacular event to toss out there for one and all!

Agreed - a very nice thing to do for the fans. I'm also not a big U2 fan - I don't hate 'em - I just don't love 'em. But this was well done.

Someone could make a very nice DVD from it if they so chose :)

Crushgen24/88 06-24-2011 12:42 AM

Considering this is easily my favorite album/era of U2, this news makes me friggin giddy:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...issue-20110623

Quote:

On the most recent dates of U2's 360° Tour, the band members have been showing grainy footage of themselves hanging out in Berlin during the recording of Achtung Baby — a rare moment of unabashed nostalgia that also hints at what's next from U2. This fall, the band will celebrate the 20th anniversary of the album that hit the reset button on its sound — along with the LP's accompanying Zoo TV Tour and its 1993 follow-up, Zooropa — with ambitious reissues, complete with unseen video footage and rare recordings.

"I'm blown away listening to some of the rough mixes and the outtakes," says the Edge. "There's some very interesting alternative versions that we discovered of songs that wouldn't have seen the light of day, alternative lyrics, different arrangement styles — it's like Achtung Baby out of focus."

It's likely there will be separate reissues of Achtung Baby and Zooropa, along with a deluxe box set that incorporates both albums as well as video and/or audio from Zoo TV. "There will be multiple formats," says U2's manager, Paul McGuinness. "If you pile a lot of extra material and packaging and design work into a super-duper box set, there are people who will pay quite a lot for it, so you can budget it at a very high level and pump up the value." The band is also working on a U2 app for the iPad and other tablets that could be involved with the releases.

The group recently filmed a new performance of songs from the period in a Canadian theater, reportedly for use in a documentary directed by Davis Guggenheim, who worked with the Edge on the guitar doc It Might Get Loud. The band has also discovered substantial unseen footage from the early Nineties. "We were filming everything," says McGuinness. "There's a lot of material that has never really been seen, and seeing it will be quite startling."

TwinFan 06-24-2011 12:57 AM

Meh. U2 is bland to me. I can probably count the number of songs I like from them on my fingers. Bono annoys me. He needs to decide whether he is a singer, politician, motivational speaker, or whatever. And he's got an ego larger than the size of their monstrosity stage.

One is brilliant, however.

Neurotica80 06-24-2011 02:00 AM

Think it's safe to say that Bono's preaching annoys most people but they have dome amazing timeless songs. I've seen them live twice now and you def get value for money in a u2 show.

ticos_stick 06-24-2011 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1059052)
Bono annoys me. He needs to decide whether he is a singer, politician, motivational speaker, or whatever. And he's got an ego larger than the size of their monstrosity stage.

Y'know what, that's a fuckin' lazy opinion right there, and I'm sick of hearing the same old shit coming from people.

Why should Bono stick to one thing? Do you know how much debt he has wiped out and the amount of relief he has given to Africa? Billions, that's how much.

Then he goes out and makes music and tours, which brings joy to millions.

So it seems this Bono chap is bringing a lot of light into people's lives. But people like yourself hate him for it.

BTW, I'm not even a U2 fan, as you can see up the page.

Panda 06-24-2011 05:29 AM

I saw U2 live a couple weeks ago and was completely blown away by them. Completely amazing live. Bono still puts so much passion and love into his songs live. I never cared much for "No Line On The Horizon" but after seeing songs like "Moment Of Surrender" and "I'll Go Crazy...." live, I went nuts. Never have I seen Jon put that much effort and love into his songs, since perhaps the 90's. Bono still gives a damn about what he sings, and what's wrong with that? He writes things that are relevant to his life, not shitty song like Superman Tonight that have no backbone or personal emotion to it. Seeing U2 live, a band that is on Bon Jovi's caliber (in both album sales and touring) definatly made me think on why I'm so obsessed over a band that has been incredibly mediocre the passed 10 years.

And I agree with Tico's Stick. People just bash Bono because they have nothing else negative to say about them. It's popular to bash Bono - like, South Park does it - so that makes it fine to do so, right? :rolleyes:

Ferret 06-24-2011 06:02 AM

Bono's a good guy. He doesn't sing that badly too, from what I've heard in recent videos? He sucked a bit of balls in '09 but man when the dude is on form he can hit a note. Not that I care much for U2.

oh and that was a good episode of South Park.

TwinFan 06-24-2011 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1059082)
Y'know what, that's a fuckin' lazy opinion right there, and I'm sick of hearing the same old shit coming from people.

Why should Bono stick to one thing? Do you know how much debt he has wiped out and the amount of relief he has given to Africa? Billions, that's how much.

Then he goes out and makes music and tours, which brings joy to millions.

So it seems this Bono chap is bringing a lot of light into people's lives. But people like yourself hate him for it.

BTW, I'm not even a U2 fan, as you can see up the page.

It's not a lazy opinion. It's my opinion. My opinion may be shared by many others, does that make it any less valid? I don't think so.

I have loads of respect for the man and his philanthropy, but I think he needs to not be wanting the spotlight so much. When I go to a concert, I go to hear music. I don't go to hear who to vote for. I don't go for a life altering seminar. I just go to hear the music. Maybe it's because I don't really like their music that gives me a skewed opinion.

And I don't watch South Park, BTW.

Crushgen24/88 06-24-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1059103)

I have loads of respect for the man and his philanthropy, but I think he needs to not be wanting the spotlight so much. When I go to a concert, I go to hear music. I don't go to hear who to vote for. I don't go for a life altering seminar. I just go to hear the music. Maybe it's because I don't really like their music that gives me a skewed opinion.
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I love both of them (Springsteen more), but honestly there was a lot more preaching of that kind at the Bruce shows I've been to than the U2 show.

ticos_stick 06-24-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1059103)
It's not a lazy opinion. It's my opinion. My opinion may be shared by many others, does that make it any less valid? I don't think so.

I have loads of respect for the man and his philanthropy, but I think he needs to not be wanting the spotlight so much. When I go to a concert, I go to hear music. I don't go to hear who to vote for. I don't go for a life altering seminar. I just go to hear the music. Maybe it's because I don't really like their music that gives me a skewed opinion.

And I don't watch South Park, BTW.

It is a lazy opinion, opinions can be and are generally wrong. You can't stone fence an opinion and say "well it's my opinion so you can't criticise it"

He uses his name to highlight poverty and injustice, and has never asked anyone to vote for a particular party.

Panda 07-03-2011 11:18 PM

Another reason why U2 is so fantastic. Could you see Jon do this? Absolutely not.

U2 +1
Bon Jovi -1

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...s-you-20110703

Crushgen24/88 07-03-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1063022)
Another reason why U2 is so fantastic. Could you see Jon do this? Absolutely not.

U2 +1
Bon Jovi -1

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...s-you-20110703

Read that story before. Pretty cool.

Thunderstrucker 07-04-2011 01:23 AM

Pretty cool?
It's frikkin awesome !

Jon indeed would never do such a thing, people come to see him only (he thinks) :D

I salute you,
TS

UKjovi 07-04-2011 09:20 AM

That's amazing!

VanJovi 07-04-2011 04:48 PM

Amazing amazing story! I am sure that guy will never forget that moment, totally priceless!

TwinFan 07-26-2011 05:26 AM

My opinions on U2 have changed quite a bit in the past few weeks. They've got some brilliant tracks, namely New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, One, Where the Streets Have No Name, Beautiful Day, and Crazy Tonight. One is one of the greatest songs of all time in my opinion.

I've also realized that The Edge isn't too great a guitar player. All he is is a delay pedal. Richie is SOOOO much better, it's crazy. But The Edge's style fits U2, it IS U2.

TwinFan 07-29-2011 09:24 PM

Just out of curiousity, what was the reaction to Bon Jovi covering Vertigo? I don't read the U2 boards, but I know that the general opinion of Bon Jovi among U2 fans is that they are absolutely awful.

ticos_stick 07-29-2011 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1068544)
Just out of curiousity, what was the reaction to Bon Jovi covering Vertigo? I don't read the U2 boards, but I know that the general opinion of Bon Jovi among U2 fans is that they are absolutely awful.

I checked a few days after on one of the busier forums and there was nothing said of the cover.

U2 fans are generally very snobbish, they would almost certainly hate it.

TwinFan 10-07-2011 03:59 AM

Well only months after I said I disliked this band, they've pretty much taken over as my favorite. Achtung Baby is probably the best album ever released, alongside Keep the Faith. Both Bon Jovi and U2 have some great songs, and some not-so-great songs. And one thing, U2 doesn't disappoing with their live releases. There's an official DVD/CD from EVERY TOUR since the late 80's. Bon Jovi have THREE full concert DVD's. Bon Jovi should take a page out of the U2 business book on that behalf.

And live, both Jovi and U2 can be great, but U2 puts more passion in nightly than Bon Jovi ever have, IMO. Check the link below to see what I mean.


ticos_stick 10-07-2011 07:59 AM

I'm glad you've taken the path to enlightenment, it's a shame so many people shrug U2 off as crap stating reasons such as "Bono is a prick" or "The Edge can't play guitar"

They (like Bruce Springsteen) can transcend a mere live event into a spiritual experience. I love U2 when they play to their strengths, sadly they've reverted back to the old ways of style over substance recently ala the Popmart shows.

The live from Chicago DVD is the band at the peak of their powers -
Some of the transitions from song to song are amazing.

Panda 10-08-2011 12:07 AM

I am still sure that seeing U2 live was better than any Bon Jovi show I've seen. While the best Bon Jovi shows had energy, fun and excitement, U2 does that plus Bono still gives a crap about songs they wrote 12 years ago like Walk On. Or songs they wrote almost 30 years ago like Sunday Bloody Sunday. So much passion, fire and energy goes into these shows by Bono. While he may have bipolar vocals like Jon does, (sometimes REALLY bad and sometimes REALLY good) he still gives his all no matter what the situation.

TwinFan 10-08-2011 12:15 AM

Gotta say, Walk On is probably tied for my favorite song by them, along with The Fly. Every perfomance I've listened to of the song has been uplifting. It seems that on this last tour, and especially on the 2011 legs of it, the preaching took a backseat to the music. Bono's preaching was really mainly on the 05/06 Vertigo Tour.

I think the Slane Castle DVD is their best. They're playing their home crowd, and the raw emotion and power in most of the songs is so powerful. Apparently Bono had lost his father only days before the concert, so the performances are especially raw.

You can't really compare Bon Jovi and U2, they're totally different bands. It's just coincidental how they both hit it huge in 1987, had huge comeback singles in 2000, and continue to have massive tours decades after forming.

† ÀžžÀ † 10-11-2011 12:03 AM

I've always felt U2 were great but over-rated by the critics. Must say though I was very impressed with the Gllastonbury show which was shown again here last night. Legends, no doubt about that.

TwinFan 10-11-2011 12:30 AM

I really enjoy the Glastonbury show. It's considerably better than the Rose Bowl DVD, IMO.

ticos_stick 10-14-2011 07:48 AM

Right, I saw the new U2 documentary From The Sky Down last night.

It's one of the best musical docs I've ever seen, the band are so honest and it's a real insight into the dynamic of the group. It's a thing of beauty.

It's mainly focused on the making of Achtung Baby and how the band were struggling to keep it together while trying to produce an album capable of shaking the Joshua Tree off their backs.

Highly recommended, even if you're not a fan of U2.

It's on the iPlayer for any UK folk - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._the_Sky_Down/

Trailer -

bounce442 10-14-2011 09:28 AM

My thoughts on U2:

AB is one of the best albums of time.

80s U2 is better than 80s Bon Jovi's. U2's 80s material is timeless and though Bon Jovi had some hits that have lasted 25+ years, they are certainly dated... they are 80s, hair metal, pop, butt rock, even though it is the best 80s, hair metal, pop, butt rock. With or Without You and Streets, ISHFWILF, etc would be just as big of hit today as they were nearly 30 years ago. Can you imagine Bad Name released today?

90s Bon Jovi is better than 90s U2.... especially mid-late 90s. I appreciate that U2 experimented when rock took a left, but doesn't mean it is as solid These Days, Faith or even DA or US. U2 has always stayed true to themselves, for good or bad. U2 has never borrowed anyone's sound to get on the radio, and despite what JBJ brags about, they have.

U2 provides a live experience vs BJ's live party. Both are excellent shows, but I do understand why U2 is taken more seriously, even though it kind of pisses me off.

Richie Sambora is far better than the Edge. The Edge is an fx architect, but that is his only defining talent.

Can you think of a time U2 has borrowed a sound from Bon Jovi? Would you agree that (at very least) production techniques were borrowed from U2 for a Bon Jovi song? Save a Prayer? When We Were Beautiful? Happy now?

I don't visit U2's forums but I can't imagine how much we'd complain about U2's set lists. They make Bon Jovi look like Pearl Jam. The good thing about U2's method is that you can to one show a tour and your pretty much guaranteed 3 or 4 old songs you haven't seen on the last 3 or 4 tours.

I can guarantee that Bon Jovi could cover U2 far better than U2 could cover Bon jovi. I thought their cover of Vertigo was excellent.

Living_on_my_Hair 10-14-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bounce442 (Post 1075419)
My thoughts on U2:

AB is one of the best albums of time.

80s U2 is better than 80s Bon Jovi's. U2's 80s material is timeless and though Bon Jovi had some hits that have lasted 25+ years, they are certainly dated... they are 80s, hair metal, pop, butt rock, even though it is the best 80s, hair metal, pop, butt rock. With or Without You and Streets, ISHFWILF, etc would be just as big of hit today as they were nearly 30 years ago. Can you imagine Bad Name released today?

90s Bon Jovi is better than 90s U2.... especially mid-late 90s. I appreciate that U2 experimented when rock took a left, but doesn't mean it is as solid These Days, Faith or even DA or US. U2 has always stayed true to themselves, for good or bad. U2 has never borrowed anyone's sound to get on the radio, and despite what JBJ brags about, they have.

U2 provides a live experience vs BJ's live party. Both are excellent shows, but I do understand why U2 is taken more seriously, even though it kind of pisses me off.

Richie Sambora is far better than the Edge. The Edge is an fx architect, but that is his only defining talent.

Can you think of a time U2 has borrowed a sound from Bon Jovi? Would you agree that (at very least) production techniques were borrowed from U2 for a Bon Jovi song? Save a Prayer? When We Were Beautiful? Happy now?

I don't visit U2's forums but I can't imagine how much we'd complain about U2's set lists. They make Bon Jovi look like Pearl Jam. The good thing about U2's method is that you can to one show a tour and your pretty much guaranteed 3 or 4 old songs you haven't seen on the last 3 or 4 tours.

I can guarantee that Bon Jovi could cover U2 far better than U2 could cover Bon jovi. I thought their cover of Vertigo was excellent.

I agree somewhat with many of your points, but you cant use the 80s Jovi sound and the fact that it may sound dated as a negative.. I can stick on any number of records which exploded during a certain musical phad and/or defined a musical genre which has since decreased in popularity and so would by definition sound 'dated' - so what? Its not 'cool' or hip but the quality is still the same. Even grungey albums sound very dated these days, as does alot of the 90s britpop we had over here for example. Its only critics and hipsters who care about 'what' it sounds like rather than 'how' i think.

Yes, I do agree that it is very hard to touch the holy trinity of Streets, Still havnt found and Without you of JT...but the rest of that album is pretty medicore in my opinion. Actung Baby is indeed their better album, and I applaud their change in musical direction, as I do with Jovis KTF record, and I rate the song-writing on KTF better than AB though, because as great lyrics Bono and co write, alot of the stuff on AB is a bitfluff/abstract.

I have seen U2 4 times and Bon Jovi 14, and the best of the times ive seen Jovi have surpassed the overall U2 experience, although I do admit that U2 definitely have that, for want of a better word, spiritual experience at some points of their shows. 'Where the streets have no Name' live is untouchable, One, Without you, Kite... I have seen performances of these songs which have sent shivers down my spine.

There are only a handful of bands who people can tell me that they are their favourite band and think they are are the greatest ever etc and I won't argue with, U2 being one. I can see what the fuss is about. But my favourite band is still Bon Jovi.

And yes, Richie wipes the floor with Edge, even on a bad day.

Andi

ticos_stick 10-14-2011 06:50 PM

This is supposed to be a Bon Jovi free area.

TwinFan 10-15-2011 02:53 AM


This is awesome. If the ZOOTV Tour was one thing, that thing is just "cool". There's no other word to describe it. It was just badass.

bounce442 10-15-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1075461)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KVAFeEwIpo

This is awesome. If the ZOOTV Tour was one thing, that thing is just "cool". There's no other word to describe it. It was just badass.

Incredible

nickolai 10-15-2011 03:19 PM

My thoughts on U2-bag of utter shite. Bono cannot sing live for toffee. The edge is such a mediocre guitarist it ain't even funny. Best song they did was hold me kiss me kill me thrill me.

ticos_stick 10-15-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1075480)
My thoughts on U2-bag of utter shite. Bono cannot sing live for toffee. The edge is such a mediocre guitarist it ain't even funny. Best song they did was hold me kiss me kill me thrill me.

Bono can't sing live? Watch until 1 minute in -
The man as Richie said has "the voice of an angel"

Also, The Edge might not have the best technique but you know his sound a mile off and he will go down as an all time great.

TwinFan 10-20-2011 12:27 AM


This is one of the best songs of all time in my opinion.

Crushgen24/88 10-20-2011 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1075757)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyC3E8mt3JQ

This is one of the best songs of all time in my opinion.

^This^
Easily one of my favorite tracks.

ticos_stick 10-20-2011 07:17 PM

I was offered a ticket to that Slane gig. I turned it down....

Doh!


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