Anyone going to pick up any of the Acthung Baby reissues?

I'd be kicking myself. That Slane gig is one of the highlights of their career, and their best live release. Streets, One, Walk On, Until the End of the World, Mysterious Ways, and many others are just fantastic. Better than the Boston Elevation DVD in my opinion.

And I think I will be picking up the 2-CD Achtung Baby reissue with the disc of demos. It's also remastered!

I was 15 and had no money :( I saw RHCP and QOTSA there the next summer.. amazing concert.


Has anyone seen the new documentary yet? It's brilliant and will make you an even bigger fan.

I've seen that DVD, too. Slane Castle seems to be an awesome place to see a gig.

And I did see the documentary. It's pretty great, I love hearing what became one of the greatest albums of all time. I got a kick out of the part where they listen to a live version of The Fly, and Bono says "Was that actually played to human beings?"

I never knew Bono had so much musical input into the band until I saw the documentary. He really does dictate everything, but in a good none CEO type of way *nudge nudge ;)

Never been a U2 fan myself, either. If I remember correctly, the song you mentioned was actually a cover song they did for the Batman soundtrack. Another one I think actually rocked was "When Love Came To Town".

I don´t mean they wouldn´t have had their moments, of course. But during the last 25 years, I´ve heard far too many times how "U2 is art, Bon Jovi is commercial recycled crap". I strongly disagree.

Not a cover, U2 wrote that. Originated during the Zooropa sessions.

Ok, I didn´t know that. I like the song.

For anybody who thinks Bono's voice sucks lately, I've noticed that it's been WAAAAAAY better in 2011 than it was in 2009. The Glastonbury show blows the Rose Bowl DVD out of the water, IMO.

I dunno what the deal is with Slane, some sorta magic....both the U2 dvd and the RHCP one are absolute gems. I can't even say how many times ive watched them both. They're both mashed up and look like ass, cause ive watched them so many times and carried them with me everywhere.

I still think Bono can belt out notes actually, seen them in 2005 and 2009 (which was their last sweden gig) and I'd not skip a gig if they came back. I really appreciate the fact that the shows dont seem overly manuscripted, even tho I obv think it must have been way better and more magical 15 years ago. Isnt that usually the case like.

A few of the later albums have many tracks that are a bit meh and that id skip. A man and a woman, crumbs from your table, get on your boots etc are completely boring and not exciting in the slightest, but theres gems like miracle drug and city of blinding lights and later on moment of surrender, that id count as up there with the best. When moment of surrender came on as the last song of the 2009 concert I properly cried like a baby.

Overall I love u2, even tho almost every album obv has songs that I skip and dont care for. So do most Jovi albums, and most albums out there in gerenal so yea, thats just the way it is.
The live shows ive been to havent showed much weakness tbh.

And I didnt even think it sucked too bad in 2009...I wanna go see them now!

And we have a winner. Ching ching ching. The only thing me and the Great Sebastian will ever agree on. Ever.

This band are an absolute utter bag of toss. Cant not stand one single song they have ever released. Overrated? Yes. If the norbs on here think JBJ is one whole arrogant cash making machine then Bono makes Jon look like a charitable and humble guy.

I agree with you. U2 and RHCP Slane Castle gigs are epic. Though I have taken a liking to their PopMart DVD more and more lately.

Bono can still sing. He can't sing as well as he could 20 years ago, but really, what singer can? As of right now, he blows Jon out of the water. They don't have as much variety in the sets as most would like, but they do vary quite a bit. I do hope they go back to arenas next tour, whenever that may be.

I only ever listen to 2 or 3 songs off No Line on the Horizon, but All That You Can't Leave Behind and Atomic Bomb are very good albums (no match to Achtung Baby, though I'd consider ATYCLB their third greatest album, after Achtung and Joshua Tree). Walk On is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard, it has yet to fail to pick me up.
It was pretty good in 2009 (check Ultraviolet from the Rose Bowl DVD... WOW). But 2011 U2 as a whole was better IMO. Partly because they brought back Even Better Than the Real Thing and The Fly. The 360 Tour was really 3 different tours: 2009, 2010, and 2011.

Bono has done more charity that Jon has and that you could ever dream of. He can be slightly arrogant, but so is Jon. This is the stereotype of U2, and only a short while ago I had this same view. But just give them a chance... I recommend starting with Achtung Baby. They go deeper than just Pride, Beautiful Day, and With or Without You.

Aloha !

Jon can still sing as well, he just can't sing his own songs anymore. Neither can Bono, I just watched parts of that Glastonbury show, and yes he does sound better there than he did several years ago. However, the only reason the songs seem to work are because they're downtuned to the max. There just simply isn't any power in Bono's voice left and as a result they play their songs either too slow or too low. The average Joe won't hear this, but a die hard U2 fan or just a music fan in general usually will. Just listen to Pride, it's a perfect example of that.

And as for them being a great band, every song seems to be completely programmed to the minute and the Edge still can't get a simple lick right. He's just bending the same notes over and over again, but once he gets out of that comfort zone he ****s up. And did I see that right that even the drummer has a teleprompter? While I complain about the lack of spontaneous jamming in Bon Jovi, at least they actually can mess around with outro's or guitar solo's. It doesn't look as if U2 can, because while they're good at producing a great sound, they're not actually great musicians and really need the spectacle in order to be as awesome as everyone seems to think they are.

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I don't know why you say that. They only downtune a few of their songs, and when they do, it's only by a half step. Pride is either a full step down or a step and a half down, but that's the ONLY song they do that anymore. I Will Follow and Until the End of the World are actually HIGHER than they are on the album. Bono doesn't have AS MUCH power in his voice anymore, but he certainly has some left.

Edge isn't the greatest guitarist ever, but he does what's necessary, and his sound pretty much IS U2.

U2 are NOT a jam band. They never have been, and they probably never will be. That's not who they are. But they do change up arrangements frequently. For example, Bon Jovi have been playing the same arrangements of Bad Name and Wanted since 1987. While U2 have changed up their own warhorses (like Sunday Bloody Sunday, Pride, With or Without You, and to a lesser extent, Streets.

Yea. The thing with charity etc is, to me it seems like there's always somethin to complain about. I do really agree that when it comes to big stars talkin about peace and pacifism and ending poverty and doing various things for the less fortunate, its always easy seeing it as hypocritical or arrogant.
Like Live 8, when all the humble and nice stuff were being said and still Bono was havin ridiculously expensive champagne backstage, and Richard Ashcroft was wearin a ridiculously expensive Prada jacket to the same gig, etc, the hypocrits!
But at the same time, if they'd not do a single thing for charity or do MakePovertyHistory ads or whatever, people would complain they weren't doin flip all with all the exessive money. I guess when ur bein constantly watched by half the planet, things get complicated.

Anyways, quite obvious stuff I guess.
Achtung Baby is for me one of the most amazing albums ever released. So is Joshua Tree. They might be the only two that dont have any skip worthy tracks for me, but as I said before, overall u2 will always be a brilliant band to me. The Edge is definitely not the most brilliant musician out there, but what he does works, and I admire that.

What an ignorant view.

U2 have made undeniably classic albums, yes their recent stuff has been pretty poor but that's by the by.

I don't give a shit if The Edge can't play a 5 minute solo behind his head or if Larry isn't the best drummer in the world.

Fact is, their songs mean something. It transcends mere music and it also sounds good.

They also know how to rock when they want to -

This entire performance is more proof they can rock.


So is this.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/ne...d-by-bono.html