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Wrath Mania 10-03-2009 10:00 PM

I like it. It's not Abbey Road, but it's not Lost Highway either. I like the fact it's dark and moody, as opposed to the, well, fruity artwork of the WWBTF single. Honestly I'm not sure why so many people love that cover so much; it's the epitome of a quick photoshop job. Also, while the huddle idea was nice, I think it also would have been a little corny as well.

With this, I like how Sambora is in the dominant position, I like the overall feel, etc. It's not fantastic, but it's the best thing I've seen from this album since the WTWM chorus. We'll see if anything else is good.

Emil 10-03-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrath Mania (Post 945133)
I like it. It's not Abbey Road, but it's not Lost Highway either. I like the fact it's dark and moody, as opposed to the, well, fruity artwork of the WWBTF single. Honestly I'm not sure why so many people love that cover so much; it's the epitome of a quick photoshop job. Also, while the huddle idea was nice, I think it also would have been a little corny as well.

With this, I like how Sambora is in the dominant position, I like the overall feel, etc. It's not fantastic, but it's the best thing I've seen from this album since the WTWM chorus. We'll see if anything else is good.

Yeah, this basically sums it up. And either way – it's still just a cover. Who the **** cares?

rickysambo 10-03-2009 11:58 PM

To be honest,the whole "suit and shades" thing bugs me a bit.

RyanBounce04 10-04-2009 02:50 AM

LOVE IT. Probably my favorite album cover since Bounce for sure!

Ryan

JimBonJovi7 10-04-2009 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanBounce04 (Post 945141)
LOVE IT. Probably my favorite album cover since Bounce for sure!

Ryan

Not only do I agree with you but the album feels almost like a "Bounce" record if you know what I mean. Big guitars? Let's hope so! Bring it on Richie.

bb52895 10-04-2009 08:07 AM

I like this cover.

BMCGRATH64 10-04-2009 08:32 AM

where are some snippets or leaks of the new songs? are they out there anywhere?

RS8MB0R8 10-04-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rickysambo (Post 945137)
To be honest,the whole "suit and shades" thing bugs me a bit.

I don't think they're actually wearing suits in the photo. Looks just like designer clothes to me... with shades! :D

UKjovi 10-04-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 945095)
Aloha !



So have I.

http://www.bonjovi-live.com/Circlecover.jpg

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Nice job Seb :D

Martin 10-04-2009 01:35 PM

bon jovi are famous for really bad covers and with this one they send in another big time candidate for "worst album art of the century". but the album cover as well as the first single pretty much resembles the sh!t they produced in this decade.
taking a step down on the career ladder is a hard thing to do but coming up with the same stuff for a decade (ok, tlfr and lh are exceptions) really doesn't help anybody.
yes, they will sell out big places again and yes, they will sell three or four million records but there's nothing new or exciting about the same old pseudo-existential crap. this band's dead. sorry

Captain Walrus 10-04-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BMCGRATH64 (Post 945149)
where are some snippets or leaks of the new songs? are they out there anywhere?

Nope

The cover's alright, I'm really past the point where CD covers mean that much to me. I am quite interested to see the rest of the album artwork though. I actually think their album covers have been fairly good this decade ... Crush was quite cool and modern; Bounce was just a stunning photo and actually linked in with Hook Me Up; and HAND was a great idea for a marketing scheme which was somewhat underused, but has still probably become one of the most recognised symbols of the band after the heart and dagger. Only Lost Highway wasn't really that great, it fit the album but was just really unoriginal.

Sami 10-04-2009 04:35 PM

I do like the cover. And I still believe we may be getting a great new Bon Jovi album.

peewee 10-04-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 945172)
bon jovi are famous for really bad covers and with this one they send in another big time candidate for "worst album art of the century". but the album cover as well as the first single pretty much resembles the sh!t they produced in this decade.
taking a step down on the career ladder is a hard thing to do but coming up with the same stuff for a decade (ok, tlfr and lh are exceptions) really doesn't help anybody.
yes, they will sell out big places again and yes, they will sell three or four million records but there's nothing new or exciting about the same old pseudo-existential crap. this band's dead. sorry

Totally agree here. But think about it. Jon and Richie write lots of songs that they will be playing almost every night on tour. The point is that they like those songs, otherwise they wouldn't tour. Yes, probably the band's musically dead but as long as they feel good writing such these kinda songs we'll have to deal with it. If the music direction had something to do with me, with Jon having that shitty voice... I would try blues or jazz (just like "You Give Love A Bad Name's" self cover on This Left Feels Right)

Td1984r 10-04-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by peewee (Post 945187)
Totally agree here. But think about it. Jon and Richie write lots of songs that they will be playing almost every night on tour. The point is that they like those songs, otherwise they wouldn't tour. Yes, probably the band's musically dead but as long as they feel good writing such these kinda songs we'll have to deal with it. If the music direction had something to do with me, with Jon having that shitty voice... I would try blues or jazz (just like "You Give Love A Bad Name's" self cover on This Left Feels Right)

BJ has been musically dead since the release of famous pop/rock shit song It's My Life!
Only thing that is somewhat interesting in this decade is 100 million Fans and upcoming movie about the band!

RS8MB0R8 10-04-2009 09:58 PM

I would love to see you guys have to eat your words if this album actually delivers. Why can't people actually wait until the music's out before writing it off? Is that not the sensible thing to do?

Does anyone else think the surprise that the album art differs so much from the single may relate to the fact that the rest of the album doesn't adhere to a similar sound to WWBTF which may just have been released to get the radio-play?

I really don't know what to expect yet. I'm hopeful, yes. Is it false hope? It could be but nobody can realistically say one way or the other before 9th November.

KeepTheFaith2211 10-04-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 945172)
bon jovi are famous for really bad covers and with this one they send in another big time candidate for "worst album art of the century". but the album cover as well as the first single pretty much resembles the sh!t they produced in this decade.
taking a step down on the career ladder is a hard thing to do but coming up with the same stuff for a decade (ok, tlfr and lh are exceptions) really doesn't help anybody.
yes, they will sell out big places again and yes, they will sell three or four million records but there's nothing new or exciting about the same old pseudo-existential crap. this band's dead. sorry

Not really. Nobody I know who isn't a BJ fan recognises them for their awful covers.

TBoy 10-04-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Td1984r (Post 945201)
BJ has been musically dead since the release of famous pop/rock shit song It's My Life!


This is one of the biggest bullshitsh I have ever read here!

Captain_jovi 10-04-2009 10:44 PM

Yah, musically dead is a tad harsh. Watered done, yes. When you lump every single song together between 2000 and 2009, there's certainly some gems there.

BonJovi100 10-04-2009 11:52 PM

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This is one of the biggest bullshitsh I have ever read here!
Agree

BJ recorded their best songs after IMLife (Undivided AODay, WLOALeaving, DLSecret...). So no, they are NOT dead. And HAND is probably with New JErsey theit best album ever...

liljovi93 10-04-2009 11:59 PM

To say BJ are musically dead is a load of crap!

Fair enough, they can do better, but they've brought some brilliant songs out post 2000.

rickysambo 10-05-2009 12:19 AM

Lets just say Bon jovi has experimented in all sorts of directions.We loved a lot of it,hated a few songs post 2000.But now,its really time to get back to traditional Rock n Roll.If they still don't,would i be disappointed?Hell yeah.

Elvistico 10-05-2009 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam D (Post 945015)
From the official site, here's the cover of the album:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...3/33563577.jpg

Does Jon have a moustache now??? :)

hackster73 10-05-2009 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvistico (Post 945233)
Does Jon have a moustache now??? :)

No,

It's one of those pairs of glasses with the fake nose and moustache attached.



http://i34.tinypic.com/5dukbt.jpg

bedesign 10-05-2009 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BonJovi100 (Post 945229)
Agree

BJ recorded their best songs after IMLife (Undivided AODay, WLOALeaving, DLSecret...). So no, they are NOT dead. And HAND is probably with New JErsey theit best album ever...

TOTALLY AGREE WITH IT

Tixy 10-05-2009 04:10 AM

Get real please.

Ferret 10-05-2009 04:25 AM

Musically, they're not dead, but they're certainly a bit poorly.

dco03cx 10-05-2009 04:37 AM

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if the circle was released 20 years ago

Javier 10-05-2009 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dco03cx (Post 945264)
if the circle was released 20 years ago

awesome!!!!! :p

liljovi93 10-05-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dco03cx (Post 945264)
if the circle was released 20 years ago

Brilliant!

kenobi_on_a_prayer 10-05-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dco03cx (Post 945264)
if the circle was released 20 years ago

Very nice :) except the shadow/reflections don't line up..... or this is one of those RichieandDavidaredead clues?:p

Td1984r 10-05-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Td1984r (Post 945201)
BJ has been musically dead since the release of famous pop/rock shit song It's My Life!

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Originally Posted by TBoy (Post 945220)
This is one of the biggest bullshitsh I have ever read here!

Then you shouldn't take the words literally,musically dead doesn't mean that they aren't write anymore or that every other post 00 release is crap,songwriting approach after It's My Life has the same concept in almost every single that follows,solo parts are vanishing,swarm of mid-tempo "live your life" songs,mix arrangement is generic and feels like copy/paste sectioned songs...and that story continues with WWBTF.

It's not that I hate all post 00's stuff,I just find them lame in term of creativity,complexity,mix and meaning...look at the thread labeled YOUR Post-2000 Album and you will see which are my post 00 favorite songs ...

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 945217)
I would love to see you guys have to eat your words if this album actually delivers. Why can't people actually wait until the music's out before writing it off? Is that not the sensible thing to do?

Does anyone else think the surprise that the album art differs so much from the single may relate to the fact that the rest of the album doesn't adhere to a similar sound to WWBTF which may just have been released to get the radio-play?

I really don't know what to expect yet. I'm hopeful, yes. Is it false hope? It could be but nobody can realistically say one way or the other before 9th November.

I totally agree with you,but the WWBTF single doesn't encourage me at all,although I still hope that The Circle will have at least one or two songs in the vain of LMS,DLS!



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Originally Posted by dco03cx (Post 945264)
if the circle was released 20 years ago

Well If WWBTF was released 20 years ago,it would be a huge failure,and Bon Jovi would sound like boy band with guitars considering the era of late 80's!

Matrix15 10-05-2009 03:23 PM

I'm enthusiastic about the circle, bare in mind that the last rock album they did was HAND which is arguably the best post-2000 album and has some really great songs on it: LMS, DLS, Novocaine. So theres nothing to say the circle can't be at least HAND quality or better.

I think the guys have still got it, but because of LH everyone became caught up with BJ 'going country' but now I think we're back on the rails and if Jon can keep the vocals from the LH tour I think we may be in for a great few years of Jovi. It would be excellent if the circle tour merged with a GH tour and they started doing some more TD again.

jovialdoe 10-05-2009 07:10 PM

Am I the only one that thinks the cover makes them look like aliens emerging from their ship?

I don’t like it, personally. I liked the huddle idea…it seemed more representative of band-bonding (or something)…this looks industrial and detached to me. However, I do like that Richie seems to be front and center for once

Just hope the music on it is good…would be really awesome to close out this crappy decade with a blow-away album. Fingers crossed, but not betting the house on it…….

BonJovi100 10-05-2009 08:15 PM

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It's not that I hate all post 00's stuff,I just find them lame in term of creativity,complexity,mix and meaning...look at the thread labeled YOUR Post-2000 Album and you will see which are my post 00 favorite songs ...
Ok. That's your opinion. Personally I think Bon Jovi have many poor (or not good) songs before 2000. They also have some poor songs after 2000 but not as much to say that their music post 2000 is more shit than before. That's my opinion.

Martin 10-05-2009 09:01 PM

@rs8mbor8: i'd be glad if the album delivered and thou shan't judge the book by it's cover but after crush, bounce and HAND i'd rather call my judgement "experienced" than "premature" :d

@ktf2211: ok, i put it the wrong way but nobody actually knows bj for their great covers, too :-)

@bj100: your post shows me that we have very different perspectives. never in my life would i prefer HAND to any other bj record. i'd not even prefer it to roxette's have a nice day record which is one of the worst albums in my not so small cd collection. but different guys like different stuff.
my "this band's dead" comment was made on my oppinion that bj have majorly focused on one single concept to which i referred as "pseudo-existential crap". and as long as they want to spread their wings and fly in order to live their lifes everyday they'll tell everyone that they weren't born to follow. although they quickly left the unbeaten tracks after they appareantly (i'll never write this word correctly*g*) got bashed by LA Reid for trying something new (tlfr and lh). this directly leads us to Crush Vol IV aka The Circle

tata,
martin

yomamasofat 10-06-2009 03:26 AM

They should've added the 4 ninja turtles in that cover picture. You know, those 4 are the kings of the sewer. BJ was just invading their space.

steel_horse75 10-07-2009 10:40 AM

the ablum going by the pic on the cover should be called the tunnel

i am really looking forward to this album - it will never be a New Jersey but thats life.

Wildflower324 10-08-2009 01:13 AM

TokyoRockChick tweeted again :D

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These 31 posts are Jon's description of some songs in the BURRN interview. I tried to translated it into English. Sorry for too many tweets!

So its not exactly same as Jon's words, specially lyrics part since I have no idea about it. However, I hope this helps 2 imagine the songs.

1 : ♫ Superman Tonight ♫ This would be the most "Boy-Girl song". There was a girl, I watched her from far away, but I was powerless.

2 : She's like a pinball machine in a way, rolled over many guys.

3 : She's very beautiful & smart, however, she thought that it would be much more happy if she could have a little more confidence.

4 : This song is a kind of observation diary. And Im a fly on a wall.

5 : ♫ Broken Promise Land ♫ I sing about the state that the personal world collapses. There is a guy I know who has no luck badly.

6 : Everything does not go well, the stock, business, buying and selling of the house, kid's school... He is late 40s.

7 : He works but its not profitable and he does not even enjoy it. He wants to find his way again (rediscover himself) soon but its not easy

8 : Its difficult to give up everything you got now and start over again from zero (a brand-new life).

9 : People like him are the chief characters of the story. But its the reality Ive seen.

10 : He left NY and started his new life which was sober in an unknown land.

11 : But he had lived in the era of dreams and hopes in his 20s-30s, so it makes him wonder why he is here now.

12 : They are divided into "successful man" and "No successful man" in late 40s.

13 : And they notice the severe reality, that the life he had is much longer than the life he will have ahead.

14 : "What have I really achieved?" I know lots of people who think like that

15 : Its not too late, but this is a sort of test if we can stay who we are, when we look at ourselves in the mirror

16 : ♫ Happy Now ♫ I wrote this lyrics on the next day of the presidential election. Are we going to be happy at last?Can we take a break?

17 : "What would you say if I talk about my dream? You might say just sleep again? Look at my tired eyes, but at last my life is back.

18 : Maybe I can change something. Hope runs through my vein. I wont back to pain." - the lyrics is like that.

19 : "Pain" means 8 years till then. "Are we gonna be happy at last? " I wrote this kind of lyrics right after the new President was born.

20 : Its just a year ago. Tell the truth, I was concerned if we really needed to find an answer "Yes" or "No".

21 : But its not timely. Now its time to be judged if the promises were real thing.

22 : ♫ Fast Cars ♫ This is also about me. I took a holiday with Richie in spring. Desmond Child was also there,

23 : We're on the beach in Saint Barts island, talked about similar subject like now, "What is the legend? Is it 2 let go? Or is it 2 make?"

24 : The story is there're drivers who always follow taillights, on the other hand, there're ppl who drive at their pace & go their own way.

25 : I mean, lets go on our own roads forever! In this album, there are lots of similar themes as I hate to follow someone.

26 : I at last got a position to be able to say like that, but so many people are stuck in the same trap, they are scared of change.

27 : ♫ Thorn In My Side ♫ This is the song that I wrote with Richie in the beginning. I wrote it almost before I met him

28 : I want something worthwhile after I wake up every morning. I got here with such a long career, still Im not satisfied,

29 : I want to be bigger and work more. I want to complain to guys who complain.

30 : I just live my life in the way I am everyday, though. I sometimes have to accept the reality, such as wrinkles around my eyes. LOL!

31 : The thorn is a kind of motivation.

Matrix15 10-08-2009 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildflower324 (Post 945675)
TokyoRockChick tweeted again :D

ooh juicy stuff! A couple of lyrics in there too :)

It raises my hopes for the album, however, Superman tonight sounds like a She's a mystery/Wildflower/You had me from hello kind of song. You know the generic filler ballad about a mysterious woman who Jon inexplicably loves because "she don't like wearin' shoes in December".

I hope I'm wrong but that's the impression I get here.

Wrath Mania 10-08-2009 09:30 AM

Yeah, Superman Tonight sounds as lame as expected. Then again, a song with a title that embarrassing was only gonna be good if it was quite literally about Superman battling Lex Luthor or something. That would have been so absurd it would have been awesome.

I like the stuff I read here; granted, you can find interviews where Jon makes Right Side of Wrong sound amazing, and I think it's an awfully boring song. Still, there's potential of themes actually showing here. Also, unless the translation is incorrect, is he actually saying that Thorn In My Side was written way back in the day?


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