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sammy645 01-19-2010 12:33 AM

Top 10 Alice Cooper
 
Alice cooper is easily the most underrated musician ever....such a god.

Here's my top 10:

10)Wake Me gently (Alice cooper goes to hell)
9)Its Me (Last Temptation)
8)Life and death of a party (Constrictor)
7)Under my wheels (killer)
6)You're A Movie (Special Forces)
5)Take It Like A Woman (Brutal Planet)
4)No more mr.nice guy (Billion Dollar baby)
3)Millie And Billie (From the inside)
2)Ballad of dwight fry (Love it to death)
1)Years ago/steven/the awakening (Welcome to my nightmare)

Panda 01-19-2010 12:35 AM

are you just trying to suck up to Oli? Because he will probably get a hard-on from reading this. :D

sammy645 01-19-2010 12:43 AM

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are you just trying to suck up to Oli? Because he will probably get a hard-on from reading this.
haha, nahh copper is really god

Matrix15 01-19-2010 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sammy645 (Post 966163)
haha, nahh copper is really god

You should not build your false gods out of copper and tin you heathen!

http://www.datazap.net/sites/adjacks...nzeWealth1.JPG

You shall worship Zeus!

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Arash 01-19-2010 01:21 AM

Alice is amazing.

Absolute top 10 would be impossible for me since Alice is one of my favorites, but it would be something like this, in no order, and some songs are subject to change in different times:

Might as well be on mars
Nothing's free
Brutal planet
Pick up the bones
Dragontown
Ballad of Dwight Fry
Dead Babies
The Quiet Room
The Saga of Jesse Jane
Six Hours

And The Last Temptation is my favorite album.

Simon 01-19-2010 01:34 AM

Isn't he the one with "Living Next Door To Alice"?

The "Hey Stoopid"-Album was quite important in my adolescence. I finally saw him live in 2006, and man he was LOUD... I don't know all of his albums (I'm missing out on his "difficult" phase 1976-1983, will have some catching up to do, because some single songs from that period that I heard were not bad actually), but here's some kind of a top 10, in no particular order:

- Wind-Up Toy
- Might As Well Be On Mars
- Brutal Planet
- Sanctuary
- It's The Little Things
- Poison
- Hell Is Living Without You (!!!)
- You're My Temptation
- Department Of Youth
- Teenage Lament '74

I know I'm missing out on some 70s stuff, but I always focused on the 80s/90s more. Not a big fan of his recent albums though. "Brutal Planet" and "Dragontown" were great though. My favourite must be "A Fistful Of Alice".

bonweissy 01-19-2010 10:22 AM

no bed of nails, i am suprised.

Goldsausage 01-19-2010 01:52 PM

Can I make a Top 100 instead?

sammy645 01-19-2010 02:08 PM

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Can I make a Top 100 instead?
lool, i was actually tempted to do a top 50 or so, so many great songs. But i thought a top 10 would be easier

C'monFeet 01-19-2010 04:03 PM

My Important Contribution to this thread is going to be to say Constrictor is a ****ing awesome, massively underrated album. Every song on there is at least an 8, such a sense of humour through it (on this album, his cock is a "gorilla" rather than a "frankenstein).

Check out The Great American Success Story!


Anyway.... Mine seems to be a bit more mainstream than you guys, but whatever. He's actually written some IMPORTANT songs when you stop and think about it.

1) Only Women Bleed. EASILY his best song. Beautiful melody, beautiful lyric. True classic.
2) Poison. Well it had to be.
3) School's Out. Well it had to be.
EDIT 4) Hell is Livin Without You (forgot about this till I read this thread!)
5) No More Mister Nice Guy. Sung here by Bruce Dickinson and Mr. Bean, with backing from Skin (remember this? Bruce is in damn good voice!) - 6) Elected
7) He's Back (The Man Behind The Mask)
8) Eighteen. I SO lived this song. About age 23.
9) Wind up Toy. SO atmospheric.
10) Lost in America.

SO many more that I'd have loved to include. A top 20 would have had almost everything off Trash and Hey Stoopid. What great albums!

C'monFeet 01-19-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bonweissy (Post 966189)
no bed of nails, i am suprised.

Shit. .

C'monFeet 01-19-2010 04:10 PM

I know Oli will disagree with me here, but I have to say I've always been slightly dissapointed with him live.

In fact, the Hey Stoopid tour was probably my first ever dissapointing gig. At that point (age about 13) I'd been to see Erasure (just magic. Every song transformed from the album, such a set!) and Iron Maiden (MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIDEN!) before (and maybe Roxette), so I was completely unprepared for a middle aged audience, in a half-full arena, sat on their seats all night.

If I mentioned the gig to my best friend, I can guarantee he would still take the piss of me excitedly jumping out of my chair and screaming when he came on, and being the only guy to do so.

I've been to a couple of shows since then, but each time he fails to really connect to the audience. Falling between a rock show and a stage musical doesn't help. He doesn't communicate AT ALL. No scope for spontenaity. And however long his band has played together, whatever their pedigree, they still sound like session musicians.

That said. This thread has got me all excited about his music, and I will be playing Alice all afternoon.

C'monFeet 01-19-2010 04:11 PM

And I would to this day pay a LOT of money for the t-shirt he wears on the cover of Trash. It's incredible!

C'monFeet 01-19-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon (Post 966174)
- Hell Is Living Without You (!!!)

Yes! Yes! Yes! (!!!)

Goldsausage 01-24-2010 07:24 PM

I noticed a plothole in this Top 10 thing - IT DOESN'T STATE HOW MANY TOP 10'S I CAN MAKE. BOOYAH!

So here is my Top 9 Top 10 Alice Cooper songs. Nothing is in any particular order, I just write them down as I remember them.

(oh but of none of you have Brutal Planet, get it, it's his best ever album. EVER! Also one of the best albums in goddamm history)

TOP 10 #1

01. Brutal Planet
02. Wicked Young Man
03. Sanctuary
04. Blow Me A Kiss
05. Eat Some More
06. Gimme
07. Pessi-Mystic
08. Pick Up The Bones
09. It's The Little Things
10. Can't Sleep, Clowns Will Eat Me

TOP 10 #2

01. Cold Machines
02. Take It Like A Woman
03. Dragontown
04. Sister Sara
05. Disgraceland
06. Sex, Death And Money
07. I Just Wanna Be God
08. Fantasy Man
09. Every Woman Has A Name
10. Nurse Rozetta

TOP 10 #3

01. From The Inside
02. School's Out
03. Bed Of Nails
04. Hell Is Living Without You
05. Why Trust You
06. I'm Your Gun
07. Trash
08. Poison
09. Spark In The Dark
10. This Maniac's In Love With You

TOP 10 #4

01. Gail
02. Roses On White Lace
03. He's Back (The Man Behind The Mask)
04. Trick Bag
05. Elected
06. Billion Dollar Babies
07. I Love The Dead
08. No More Mr Nice Guy
09. Ballad Of Dwight Fry
10. Fire

TOP 10 #5

01. I'm Eighteen
02. Is It My Body
03. Man With The Golden Gun
04. Desperado
05. Under My Wheels
06. Under My Wheels (version with Guns N' Roses)
07. Go To Hell
08. Bad Place Alone
09. You're My Temptation
10. It's Me

TOP 10 #6

01. Lost In America
02. Stolen Prayer
03. Dirty Diamonds
04. Six Hours
05. The Saga Of Jesse Jane
06. Zombie Dance
07. Love Should Never Feel Like This
08. The Song That Didn't Rhyme
09. This House Is Haunted
10. Hey Stoopid

TOP 10 #7

01. Dangerous Tonight
02. Might As Well Be On Mars
03. Love's A Loaded Gun
04. Feed My Frankenstein
05. Snakebite
06. Wind-Up Toy
07. Little By Little
08. Hurricane Years
09. Welcome To My Nightmare
10. Cold Ethyl

TOP 10 #8

01. The Black Widow
02. Devil's Food
03. Department Of Youth
04. Some Folks
05. Steven
06. Years Ago
07. Only Women Bleed
08. Keepin' Halloween Alive
09. Catch Me If Your Can
10. The One That Got Away

TOP 10 #9

01. Wrapped In Silk
02. Along Came A Spider
03. Killed By Love
04. Vengeance Is Mine
05. Wake The Dead
06. (In Touch With) Your Feminine Side
07. Santa Claws Is Coming To Town
08. Deeper
09. Hard Hearted Alice
10. House Of Fire

Gotta confess, I love Alice Cooper.

hometownboy 01-24-2010 07:35 PM

1) Only Women Bleed
2) House Of Fire
3) Man Behind The Mask -
4) No More Mr Nice Guy
5) Poison
6) Elected
7) I'm Eighteen
8) Schools Out
9) Billion Dollar Babies
10) Teenage Lament 74

Arash 01-25-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldsausage (Post 966815)
oh but of none of you have Brutal Planet, get it, it's his best ever album. EVER! Also one of the best albums in goddamm history)

Brutal Planet is a great album, my 2nd favorite Alice album. I've put 2 songs from it in my top 10, and the song Brutal planet would be in my top 5. Such an amazing song, and great lyrics.

Simon 01-25-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldsausage (Post 966815)
(oh but of none of you have Brutal Planet, get it, it's his best ever album. EVER! Also one of the best albums in goddamm history)

I have three songs from Brutal Planet in my list! :-)

sammy645 01-25-2010 02:39 PM

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(oh but of none of you have Brutal Planet, get it, it's his best ever album. EVER! Also one of the best albums in goddamm history)
Great album! i only included One song, but all the songs are really good. Pick Up The Bones, Wiched Young Man, Brutal Planet and Eat some more are my favs

Simon 01-31-2010 11:04 PM

I had my iPod on shuffle the other day (140 GB at least!), and "Pass The Gun Around" came on. Never heard that song before, and I was pleasantly surprised. Nice guitar solo as well. Shuffle rocks! :-)

Iceman 02-01-2010 09:09 AM

Brutal Planet is much too boring and serious. Alice is best when he's having fun.

My Top 10 today, in no order:

Love's a Loaded Gun
Snakebite
Hell Is Living Without You
No More Mr. Nice Guy
Bed Of Nails
Poison
I'm Eighteen
The Song That Didn't Rhyme / Love Should Never Feel Like This
I'm Your Gun
Ballad Of Dwight Fry


Ice

Sami 02-02-2010 09:43 PM

In no particular order:

Teenage Frankenstein
Life & Death of The Party
Heīs Back
Poison
Bed of Nails
House of Fire (on Trash credits itīs said to be written by AC & Joan Jett if I remember, still it was one of the New Jersey outtakes... What part did I miss?)
Might As Well Be On Mars
Itīs Me
Loveīs A Loaded Gun
Die 4 You (is it a Motley song or was it written specifically for AC?)

Iceman 02-02-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sami (Post 968182)
House of Fire (on Trash credits itīs said to be written by AC & Joan Jett if I remember, still it was one of the New Jersey outtakes... What part did I miss?)

You missed nothing. It was written by Child & Jett. Maybe one of the reasons it didn't make NJ.

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Die 4 You (is it a Motley song or was it written specifically for AC?)
For Alice. Can't see Jim Vallance writing for Mötley Crüe.

Ice

Sami 02-02-2010 10:17 PM

Thank you Ice.

Sami 02-03-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 968186)
You missed nothing. It was written by Child & Jett. Maybe one of the reasons it didn't make NJ.

Sorry I just canīt seem to let it be just yet, itīs been bothering me for almost 20 years.

So the song wasnīt even partly written by Jon and Richie? Was it a leftover song from Jettīs Up Your Alley -sessions, then? The chorus sounds very much like LivinīOn A Prayer, maybe it was DC recycling that same idea.

Anyway, Jon wouldnīt put a song on a Bon Jovi record if he wasnīt mentioned in the songwriting credits, right?

This makes me wonder, how much do we really know about the real writers of songs on albums by various artists... Lennon & McCartney shared the credits for all of their Beatles songs although a big part of the catalogue was written solely by John or Paul. In the history of popular music, I bet this sort of manipulation of the songwriting credits isnīt limited to the Beatles. Or speaking of Alice Cooper, I honestly donīt believe he wrote a single note for, letīs say, Hell Is Living Without You, yet he is listed as a co-writer.

We donīt really know that much about Childīs (or some other hired songwriterīs as well) role in Bon Joviīs songwriting process. Jon said Desmond added the pre-chorus to LivinīOn A Prayer. Same thing with Bad Medicine, which was supposedly already finished by the time Jon played it to Desmond. Yet itīs quite obvious Bad Name was Childīs retry of an idea that didnīt work too well on that Bonnie Tyler song. By the time Iīll Be There For You topped the US Chart Jon said he was particularly proud of that because it was their first number one hit without a songwriter from outside of the band. -So it has to mean a great deal to him. Or speaking of Itīs My Life, Jon said he wrote it with Richie but since Max Martin happened to be present in the same room, he got a third of the song.

I guess weīll never know.

Iceman 02-03-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sami (Post 968211)
So the song wasnīt even partly written by Jon and Richie?

No, why would it be?

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Was it a leftover song from Jettīs Up Your Alley -sessions, then? The chorus sounds very much like LivinīOn A Prayer, maybe it was DC recycling that same idea.
No idea when it was written, but professional writers write all the time, not just in "sessions" for albums. Like Bon Jovi wrote for other people (Loverboy, Cher...) that's all Desmond does.

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Anyway, Jon wouldnīt put a song on a Bon Jovi record if he wasnīt mentioned in the songwriting credits, right?
Probably not. I'm sure that if HOF would've been on NJ, it would've had Jons name on it.

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This makes me wonder, how much do we really know about the real writers of songs on albums by various artists... Lennon & McCartney shared the credits for all of their Beatles songs although a big part of the catalogue was written solely by John or Paul. In the history of popular music, I bet this sort of manipulation of the songwriting credits isnīt limited to the Beatles. Or speaking of Alice Cooper, I honestly donīt believe he wrote a single note for, letīs say, Hell Is Living Without You, yet he is listed as a co-writer.
Yeah, that's true. And it's the same with Bon Jovi as well. Jon puts his name on everything, even if someone else wrote the whole damn thing. I'll Be There For You is Richie's song as is Never Say Goodbye. Maybe Jon added some lyrics, but from what I've heard, they're both completely Richie's songs.

Mutt Lange wrote Love Bites for Leppard, but they all have credits on it.

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We donīt really know that much about Childīs (or some other hired songwriterīs as well) role in Bon Joviīs songwriting process.
Well, no one apart from the guys themselves know.

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Or speaking of Itīs My Life, Jon said he wrote it with Richie but since Max Martin happened to be present in the same room, he got a third of the song.
That I will never believe. It's My Life is a "rock" version of Max Martins hits at the time. It has the same exact formula as all his Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys hits. The giveaway is the "other" chorus at the end of the song, almost the same, but not quite. It's in every Max Martin song.

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I guess weīll never know.
No, but we can always speculate. :)

Ice

Sami 02-03-2010 10:14 AM

Ice thank you for taking the time to write it down. I find this extremely interesting :)

Yes I suppose Jon has a habit of putting his name in the songwriting credits of all Bon Jovi songs. I sort of knew the thing with Iīll Be There For You but Never Say Goodbye being Richieīs song was new information to me. I suppose there are others like this as well, apart from These Days and the ballads mentioned above ?

Or All About Lovin You, for instance. Jon was never eager to perform it. It may well be a song completely written by the professional hired hands... Iīm sure there are lots of others, too. And I agree with you on the Max Martin thing, itīs quite obvious.

Like you said, we can always speculate :)

Goldsausage 02-03-2010 02:32 PM

Why would Alice not have written Hell Is Living Without You?

It sounds more like Alice to me than Jon and Richie to be honest :/

Panda 02-27-2010 04:18 AM

going to Alice Cooper on the 29th of April! Rob Zombie is supporting as well. only know one song by him though.

Goldsausage 02-27-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bang A Drum (Post 974449)
going to Alice Cooper on the 29th of April! Rob Zombie is supporting as well. only know one song by him though.

He's not supporting, they're both headlining.

jbjrsdc 03-28-2010 05:52 AM

70's
Long Way to Go
Ballad of Dwight Fry
Crazy Little Child
Some Folks
Steven
Escape
Didn't We Meet
Going Home
The Quiet Room
For Veronica's Sake

80's
Don't Talk Old to Me
Adaptable (Anything for You)
Former Lee Warmer
Pass the Gun Around
Thrill My Gorilla
Life and the Death of the Party
Freedom
Give the Radio Back
Spark in the Dark
Why Trust You

90's & 2000's
Might as Well Be on Mars
Lullaby
Brutal Planet
Eat Some More
Pick Up the Bones
Fantasy Man
Disgraceland
Dirty Diamonds
Run Down the Devil
Wrapped in Silk

beler 03-28-2010 10:56 AM

1. House of fire
2. Poison
3. Hey stoopid
4. Might as well be on Mars
5. No more Mr. Nice Guy
6. Hell is living without you
7. Feed my Frankenstein
8. Schools out
9. Under my wheels
10.Only my heart talkin

Thunderstrucker 03-31-2010 05:17 PM

I only know 'Poison'. Not sure where that would fit into my top10 :cool:

I salute you,
TS

Iceman 03-31-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderstrucker (Post 981458)
I only know 'Poison'. Not sure where that would fit into my top10 :cool:

You need to educate yourself.

Ice

sammy645 03-31-2010 10:05 PM

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I only know 'Poison'. Not sure where that would fit into my top10

I salute you,
TS
I would suggest getting Hey Stoopid!. Very Mainstream album, but every song is pretty great

Simon 03-31-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderstrucker (Post 981458)
I only know 'Poison'. Not sure where that would fit into my top10 :cool:

I salute you,
TS

Then you should check out two songs, at least: "Trash", which is crappy, but it features JBJ on vocals, and "Hell Is Living Without You", a truely grand 80s power-ballad feat. Richie on guitar, co-written by JBJ & RS.

Thunderstrucker 04-01-2010 12:04 AM

Think I'll have to find myself an Alice Cooper Discography download then ;)

I salute you,
TS

KeepTheFaith2211 04-01-2010 12:13 AM

I love Alice Cooper. Been reminiscing about the great live show I went to whilst listening to some Trash tonight.


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