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many r missing the point, yes its possible to get good ad blocker , but many wont know about this or go to such lengths just to gain access on the board which means the visitor numbers will decline... well I guess that will make it cheaper !

Its made worse by the fact if you try and cross the ad off the the whole forum disappears to...

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Originally Posted by jtadmin (Post 986202)

Those interested in buying JT please contact me at peter5@peterweb.com. We're talking about four-fugure amounts here (in EUR), but not five-figure.

Direct costs (hosting, domain name, forum softeare license) are not the issue, current ads can cover those (with help from DC the site, JT alone wouln't cover them). The board causes most of server load and problems that come with it (and attracts most bot attacks), and all this also requires my time. And time is something I have very little of (plus I value it more after the health scare I had). And of course, time is money. If I counted my time in the equation, all these sites would obviously be very very unprofitable.

As for traffic, it's hard to separate JT from DC as they currently share the domain name. drycounty.com needs about 400-500GB per month (some stats show even 1500+TB, but those can't possibly be real), but fan-submitted mp3s account for majority of the traffic. My guess would be JT uses about 50-100GB per month (we're talking about 1.5-3M database-intensive pageviews here...).

Hi Peter,

If I understand this correctly you are happy to financially support JT costs via links to DC , but you want someone to pay over £1000 for the priviledge of dealing with JT problems :?

What would the person paying so much gain ? or am I misunderstanding the situation....

If you dont want to run the forum anymore cos of its hassles then why not share control with a couple of others willing to do the 'hassle' jobs. Im sure however many are needed to pay to perminitely block the ads will be happy to pay for this within reason....

Or would it be an idea to look for another forum without so many pop ups ? We are used to ads keepig this forum going but the pop up ones r a nightmare.

Dawn

what is so annoying about the pop up is when I try to click them off I then lose the whole of JT also and have to then reload ...... :mad:

If new visitors have this problem then are hardly going to think oh I need new ad blocker to just visit when they havent even seen the site. Therefore I predict this forum will die , which will be a shame after all the hard work Peter , the mods and posters have done over the many years to make JT what it is.

At this moment there is 24 - 38 people online in the past 15 mins... this is becomig the new average... which mid week would usually be above 70 if not much more during a tour.... Just look at the highest number we have ever had online at one time in 2008 its was over 600 , we are far away from this now.

Dawn :(

I doubt this forum will die because people will stop visiting because of the popups.

I salute you,
TS

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Originally Posted by Thunderstrucker (Post 987539)

I doubt this forum will die because people will stop visiting because of the popups.

I salute you,
TS

It might not die but will certainly shrivel up.

Bit dull to say but nothing lasts forever.

I salute you,
TS

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Originally Posted by Thunderstrucker (Post 987547)

nothing lasts forever.

I salute you,
TS

Even cold November rain :p

:cool:

I salute you,
TS

Why cant this board just compromise and have ads embedded in the page (down the sides etc) rather than popping up all over the place? It wouldnt bug me as I can choose to view / not view.

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Originally Posted by smashed (Post 993296)

Why cant this board just compromise and have ads embedded in the page (down the sides etc) rather than popping up all over the place? It wouldnt bug me as I can choose to view / not view.

the pop up ones stop me accessing it via my phone...

Dawn

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Originally Posted by Dawn (Post 994698)

the pop up ones stop me accessing it via my phone...

Dawn

I noticed that this past week when I had to get logged in to get them to go away, it was worse since I have flash running on my phone.

I also wonder why we don't have topic appropriate ads in banners embedded in the page rather than pop ups.

Probably because the advertisers pay more money for pop ups. I can access it ok by phone as the pop ups open in an extra window so I just close it straight away.

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 994920)

Probably because the advertisers pay more money for pop ups. I can access it ok by phone as the pop ups open in an extra window so I just close it straight away.

this was happening to me but there was so many pop ups I couldnt keep up.... and then JT couldnt load...

Dawn

Pop-unders and pop-ups are paid per view. Most "normal" ads are paid per click and bring almost zero revenue, especially Google Adsense ads.

Google Adsense stats drycounty.com for may 2010:
Ad impressions 287,460
Ad clicks 69
Click-through rate 0.02%

One of my other sites has 0.64% click-through rate, yes, 32x more.

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Originally Posted by jtadmin (Post 995112)

Yeah thought it'd be something like that. They're bloody annoying and no doubt you're making a fair bit of profit from the pop-unders/pop-ups as well as generating revenue for hosting, maintenance etc.

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Originally Posted by jtadmin (Post 983845)

Hi all,

starting today, Jovitalk users have an option to view the forums completely AD-FREE. No popups, popunders, full screen ads, banner or even text ads.

Ad-Free Jovitalk subscription costs 12 EUR/year i.e. 1 EUR per month. You can only subscribe for one or two years (discount), as smaller amounts are pointless due to Paypal fees.

To subscribe, click here, select subscription period, and pay using Paypal (subscription will be activated and ads will disappear instantly): http://drycounty.com/jovitalk/payments.php

This option has been planned for some time now, but I've been occupied with other areas of life. The recent uproar due to the amount of ads convinced me to go ahead with implementing Ad-Free Subscription.

I don't view this as donations, but purely as a paid option to use the forums ad-free. Use of forums itself will never be subscription based. But, I will definitely try to introduce specials features for Ad-Free users if there as enough subscriptions. For now, these users have no more PM limits. Other goodies will follow after forum software upgrade to vBulletin 4, coming later this year.

I've tested the subscription procedure and it works fine, but if anything goes wrong (Paypal problems, ads don't disappear, something else stops working, ...), let me know here in this thread or e-mail me at peter@drycounty.com.

Peter

I've just bought this and it works inmediatly and works great! I don't regret buying this!

This appears to have stopped working. I was sent an e-mail about renewing but all I get is the message that says no paid subscriptions are available. Has support for this feature been dropped?

edit** Got this answered by Kev - Thanks

What was the answer? (if you don't mind me asking)

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Originally Posted by mo_rizwan (Post 1122940)

What was the answer? (if you don't mind me asking)

Don't mind at all :) Peter has done away with buying a subscription to get rid of the adverts. He says that he has not decided what to do about the adverts themselves. I guess he is working on it.