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RyanBounce04 01-06-2003 11:17 PM

Just Older - from the Red CD
 
I just got my CD in the mail from a friend in New Jersey because target is and hour from here and I listened to everything and there is that one track that seems to stick out... Just Older (Live).... That is the best live version of that song I have ever heard and it just kicks a lot of ass!!!!!! I mean, I have heard at least 20 versions of it and this one just stands out and makes me want to get up in sing... Anyone heard it yet???

BOUNCE,
Ryan

joviromeo 01-06-2003 11:26 PM

I've heard one or two live versions of this song, but now I cant wait until I hear this version if its that good. Im should be getting my copy of the CD very soon.

Cat 01-07-2003 10:43 AM

What Cd is that on?? Is it a special ed. or something???
I've only heard it live on OWN....! Am i missing something?! haha

Jonty 01-07-2003 11:09 AM

Red Cd
 
What is all this bis about a special CD for the UK?? Where is it available, how much, whats on it etc etc. I haven't heard a thing about this....Please tell us

Mongoose 01-07-2003 11:24 AM

its america only

some shop called Target, the only Target I can think of in the uk is the one that sells fridges and stuff :shock:

LetItRock2003 01-07-2003 11:27 AM

Is it on amazon ?? What is the full title ?? or is it only available in Target?

Mongoose 01-07-2003 11:38 AM

Question:
I just bought a BonJovi CD at Target. It has about 7 songs on it. I had not heard about it being released and just wondered where these songs came from and why they were put on a separate CD. By the way, it is very good! Thanks.
asked by Frisconat on Monday, January 6
Answer:
Full details will be posted shortly - some Target people were a little quick to jump the gun on a very special, exclusive CD for sale at Target. Don't rush out to get it just yet as most Targets done have it for sale for a few more days.
answered by BON JOVI INFO HQ on Monday, January 6 5:27 PM

LetItRock2003 01-07-2003 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mongoose
Question:
I just bought a BonJovi CD at Target. It has about 7 songs on it. I had not heard about it being released and just wondered where these songs came from and why they were put on a separate CD. By the way, it is very good! Thanks.
asked by Frisconat on Monday, January 6
Answer:
Full details will be posted shortly - some Target people were a little quick to jump the gun on a very special, exclusive CD for sale at Target. Don't rush out to get it just yet as most Targets done have it for sale for a few more days.
answered by BON JOVI INFO HQ on Monday, January 6 5:27 PM

Hummm...so what does it actually mean??
"Don't rush out to get it just yet as most Targets done have it for sale for a few more days. " ????

I've trouble understanding Bon Jovi HQ answers...Why can't they just say "Full details will be posted shortly" or better still, only reply when they have concrete answers...

Mongoose 01-07-2003 11:55 AM

I think it means that a) the oomaps suck

b) one of two stores released it early when they shouldnt have

Cat 01-07-2003 12:17 PM

We have target here .... is it likely we'll get it to?
Whats's on it?!!

shuggymac1 01-07-2003 12:59 PM

due to licensing issues-probably ownly a usa release
 
if the Target stores in the Usa have exclusive use of this cd, then the only way to get a copy outwith America would be on import. I imagine this is Bon Jovi selling out- nothing new there then. :cry:

jedijovi 01-07-2003 01:37 PM

No, it is American fans finally getting a chance to buy the B sides and demos you Europeans get on the singles without having to pay outrageous import prices or download the stuff. I think it is great Bon Jovi are doing this for the fans.

Jovian 01-07-2003 01:37 PM

Re: due to licensing issues-probably ownly a usa release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shuggymac1
if the Target stores in the Usa have exclusive use of this cd, then the only way to get a copy outwith America would be on import. I imagine this is Bon Jovi selling out- nothing new there then. :cry:

I'm not sure I understand it completely what people mean when they say that a band is "selling out", at least when they're not talking about concerts where I would think a sell-out is a good thing. But I think that what's happening with Bon Jovi right now is that for the first time in over 10 years, they're concentrating on their home front and REALLY investing in the US market.

Us Europeans (and I suppose the Japanese & Aussies too) had the pleasure of having the guys almost completely to ourselves in the 1990s when the general public in the US was ignoring them, and now when they're doing to their US fans what they did for us around KTF and TD, we're feeling disappointed, left out and even betrayed. And understandably so. I don't like it myself anymore than the next European fan, you can count on that. But when I try to look at it from the band's point of view I can understand why they're doing it, why they're doing minimal tours and promotion outside the US. My guess is that even after all these years, Jon hasn't got completely over the fact that KTF and especially TD basically flopped in the US. So now when Crush and It's My Life in particular put them back in the spotlight in the US, he's doing everything he can to stay in that spotlight and re-gain at least some of Bon Jovi's 80's fame in their home front. And from the band's point of view, there's nothing really wrong with that, I guess... But from the fans' point of view and especially from the non-American fans' point of view it can easily seem like they're ignoring us and arrogantly taking us and our affection for them for granted. Which I think is what's happening with the low sales of Bounce -- had the band promoted Bounce in Europe with the same vigour and diligence they promoted Crush or even These Days, they might just have a few more gold/platinum awards from the Bounce sales hanging on their walls. Even if you exclude the effects of the general low sales trend in the music biz.

RyanBounce04 01-07-2003 02:20 PM

Well, we have went through this once already, there is another post on it and I think it is stupid that people are getting so fidgety... We are getting a CD full of a collection of B-Sides, Live, and Acoustic tracks that YOU overseas have gotten from the singles... You basically have it so it shouldn't really matter for you..

BOUNCE,
Ryan

Christo 01-07-2003 02:30 PM

Re: Just Older - from the Red CD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BonJoviBOUNCE02
I just got my CD in the mail from a friend in New Jersey because target is and hour from here and I listened to everything and there is that one track that seems to stick out... Just Older (Live).... That is the best live version of that song I have ever heard and it just kicks a lot of ass!!!!!! I mean, I have heard at least 20 versions of it and this one just stands out and makes me want to get up in sing... Anyone heard it yet???

BOUNCE,
Ryan

Usually when there is a live track on a CD, there is some info regarding when and where it is recorded from.......so what about this one? Che :) ers.

Captain Crash 01-07-2003 03:26 PM

I appreciate the CD. I've got all the albums and it's hard here in the U.S to get anything but those... Hah..we don't even get the bonus tracks. I still haven't heard Save A Prayer. :D

oh well, it's no big deal..

Mongoose 01-07-2003 03:36 PM

youre not missing much



that wasnt even a bonus track for us, t'was just another album track

what your did ktf have on it??

Richiesgirl 01-07-2003 06:27 PM

Just Older was recorded on August 21, 2002 at the Manhattan Center at the private Bounce release party they had for friends, family and the record label.

Misunderstood was recorded on August 23, 2002 at the Manhattan Center at the "secret gig" that was held for radio listeners and fan club members.

Hope that helps you out!!

Mongoose 01-07-2003 09:21 PM

stop pressing submit twice !

Derek Bliss 01-08-2003 12:15 AM

Re: due to licensing issues-probably ownly a usa release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shuggymac1
if the Target stores in the Usa have exclusive use of this cd, then the only way to get a copy outwith America would be on import. I imagine this is Bon Jovi selling out- nothing new there then. :cry:

My goodness, what miserablely pessimistic people. It's not selling out at all. US fans haven't been able to get the same b-sides fans elsewhere have without paying an arm & a leg for the imports. You're just JEALOUS that they're not doing this where you are. Sounds like the fox & the sour grapes.

Mike 01-08-2003 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Crash
I appreciate the CD. I've got all the albums and it's hard here in the U.S to get anything but those... Hah..we don't even get the bonus tracks. I still haven't heard Save A Prayer. :D

oh well, it's no big deal..

I recommend u try & hear it - It doesn't sound much at first, but really grows on u - It is now one of my favourite tracks.

Mike


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