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rocknation 08-30-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tixy (Post 1012433)

On Monday 30th August 2010, @axlrose said:
...(W)e allegedly had a deal in place pre show w/the city at least at Leeds to do a bit longer performance that was either miscommunication, someone wasn't informed, changed their mind, didn't care or was a con. Regardless the nonsense just seems so unnecessary but w/out real management or industry presence is unfortunately beyond r control. We hope the fans feel they got at least what they could from us under the circumstances...

Talk about sounding like a broken record -- here we go again! It's somebody else's fault, something was "miscommunicated," and securing more playing time is supposed to be "justification" for starting late. THOSE are GNR's "greatest hits" -- and Axl's been singing them for DECADES!
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Jim Bon Jovi 08-31-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tixy (Post 1012433)
On Monday 30th August 2010, @axlrose said:

Don't know what it is w/us or these last 2 shows. Takes the fun out it 4 everyone fans, band n' crew alike but whatever. So u know, we allegedly had a deal in place pre show w/the city at least at Leeds to do a bit longer performance that was either miscommunication, someone wasn't informed, changed their mind, didn't care or was a con. Regardless the nonsense just seems so unnecessary but w/out real management or industry presence is unfortunately beyond r control. We hope the fans feel they got at least what they could from us under the circumstances as 4 us all things considered that's the main thing. The rest is filler. Anyway, enough rambling. Peace, thanks 4 understanding n' what we did manage to get done out there was a blast! The crowds n' fans were amazing!! And in r opinion (not that apparently it means much) u deserved better!! Thanks again!!

Axl-

So turn up on time and give them a proper show you waste of space.

UKjovi 08-31-2010 10:33 AM

He was warned that both venues have strict curfews and that if he over run the power would be turned off. So he has no reason to complain. The man is a dick head!

sammy645 08-31-2010 01:13 PM

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Here we go again! It's somebody else's fault, something was "miscommunicated," and securing more playing time is supposed to be "justification" for starting late. THIS is GNR's greatest hit--Axl's been singing this same old song for DECADES!
Like most bands that started out in the 80s are doing...

Its unfortunate about what happened at Reading, cause from what i've heard and read the leeds show was very good, and will obv be forgotten now

Dawn 08-31-2010 04:00 PM

Guns N' Roses Blast Reading and Leeds Festival OrganisersPosted on Aug 31st 2010 6:00AM by Julian Marszalek Comments (1)
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A furious war of words has erupted between Guns N'Roses singer Axl Rose and the promoters of last weekend's Reading and Leeds festivals following the band's two disastrous performances on Friday and Sunday nights (Aug. 27 and 29) respectively.

As reported on Spinner, Guns N'Roses had the plug pulled on them at the Reading Festival after taking to the stage an hour later than scheduled, thus potentially breaking strict curfew laws, while their performance at Leeds saw the band arrive a half hour late.

Posting on Twitter, Rose claimed that his understanding was that Guns N'Roses could play 23 minutes beyond the 11.30pm curfew, a claim strongly denied by festival boss Melvin Benn. He fumed, "So u know, we allegedly had a deal in place pre show w/the city at least at Leeds to do a bit longer performance that was either miscommunication, someone wasn't informed, changed their mind, didn't care or [it] was a con."

The claim has been strenuously denied by Benn. Speaking to NME.com, the promoter dismissed Rose's claims saying "bands often say things like that when they are curtailed."

He added, "There are rules we have to abide by here in the UK, they're very clear rules. It's not personal, I think the band are great."

It's doubtful that the feeling is mutual. Leaving the stage at Leeds, Rose said, "Be safe getting out of here. And for the problems with the cops and the promoters, f--- you."

Yvonne 08-31-2010 04:36 PM

From what I've read about the Friday night at Reading, leave it at that.

Caught November Rain from Leeds on Sunday on BBC3, wasn't too bad as it goes. The crowd were into the song and loved every minute! They didn't appear to get booed as they did at Reading.

ticos_stick 08-31-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne (Post 1012548)
From what I've read about the Friday night at Reading, leave it at that.

Caught November Rain from Leeds on Sunday on BBC3, wasn't too bad as it goes. The crowd were into the song and loved every minute! They didn't appear to get booed as they did at Reading.

They only got booed at Reading just as they entered the stage because of the delay.

It was funny during Queens Of The Stone Age's last song, the band stopped for ages until the crowd went silent then the lead singer just said "Guns 'N' Roses, the crowd booed like crazy.

When did Axl get so fat? He looks like Mick Hucknall now.

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ticos_stick 08-31-2010 05:35 PM

Found a video of Axl talking on the mega phone -
Nutter :)

Tixy 08-31-2010 08:04 PM

On Tuesday 31st August 2010, @axlrose said:

Our start times at the Reading and Leeds festivals factually had nothing to do with us as the previous bands (who were great by the way) came off stage when they did and we went on within' our contracted and documented changeover time period.

Whatever other nonsense anyone's choosing to write would appear intentionally false.

Having the fans or our show penalized for how the event was ran or simply the natural flow of events those evenings and for such minimal amount of overtime along with distortions and falsehoods by media, the promoter and or event organizers regarding the events seems a bit draconian and more than unfair to the fans.

A simple question: If you are aware of our changeover time, the average length of our show and the general nature of how these types of festivals run all of which are no big secrets...why book us?

Is it simply because the lineup on our nights at both festivals sold well? So it's a cash grab with no respect for the fans or the band and somehow an unwanted inconvenience for the cities and law enforcement? If we're not wanted and just being used to line someone else's pockets or for fictitious tabloid fodder at the fans and our expense we're fine with going elsewhere. God forbid we would force ourselves on anyone. It's not that kinda party.

I didn't organize, arrange, authorize, have knowledge of or was even consulted about our being booked for these shows till after the fact nor did I choose to work with anyone I'm aware of other than our manager who was involved in arranging these dates. Yet it would appear we're amazingly often legally obligated to honor such arrangements whether against our will or better judgment. That's simply and unfortunately how this business often works with the artist and imo seems is legally supported to benefit managers, agents, promoters and ticket vendors.

With how the fans and we were treated in the past I had what I feel were legitimate and now proven justified apprehensions. Yet we gave 100% and from where we stood it seemed as if the both the fans (who rocked!) and our camp were having fun and making the most of things.

Why (and what would appear intentionally) risk having it go bad for everyone? Imo that's where true recklessness and negligence at both the fans and our expense would seem to be.

Anyway...thanks again to all the fans who made our nights!!

Peace!!

Axl-

rocknation 09-01-2010 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tixy (Post 1012570)
On Tuesday 31st August 2010, @axlrose said:

Our start times at the Reading and Leeds festivals factually had nothing to do with us as the previous bands (who were great by the way) came off stage when they did and we went on within' our contracted and documented changeover time period.

Your start time has nothing to do with you, Axl? I'll be sure to try out that line the next time I'm late for work--"The fact that everyone else showed up at 9AM has nothing to do with me!"

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Having the fans or our show penalized for how the event was ran or simply the natural flow of events those evenings and for such minimal amount of overtime...the promoter and or event organizers regarding the events seems a bit draconian and more than unfair to the fans.
YOU penalized your fans, Axl, when you contributed to the "natural flow of events" by not being able to start on time!

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A simple question: If you are aware of our changeover time, the average length of our show and the general nature of how these types of festivals run all of which are no big secrets...why book us? Is it simply because the lineup on our nights at both festivals sold well? So it's a cash grab with no respect for the fans or the band...
I have an even simpler question: Given your track record, why should you EXPECT to be booked? So that you can do a little "cash grabbing" of your own?

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I didn't organize, arrange, authorize, have knowledge of or was even consulted about our being booked for these shows till after the fact...
If you don't want to do a gig, JUST SAY NO. If you don't want your management doing things without clearing them with you first, take away their authority to do so -- though at this point, I imagine you're at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to finding management who is WILLING to work with you.

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Anyway...thanks again to all the fans who made our nights!
And now I'm supposed to forgive you for beating me up, pretend it didn't happen, and wait for you to do it to me all over again? Axl should be the poster child for abusive partners. I'm glad I was smart enough to jump off the GNR bandwagon eighteen years ago!


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