GH Vinyl... Does it worth?
 

I'm thinking about buying the GH in Vinyl. Does anybody have it? Does it worth? Do the songs sound great, because of the high quality?

wow..i could spend the whole day here talking about the advantages of vinyl. if it was properly mastered to Vinyl, its dynamic range should be broader and more pleasant actually. if you have a good record player and good speakers, i'd say yeah go for it !

Vinyl isn't better than a CD, it's technically impossible. It's one of those myths vinyl-philes and wanna-be-hifi-experts want you to believe.

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....e=Myths_(Vinyl)

Ice

I always assumed the bone of contention was about the "warmth" you get with vinyl rather than any ideas of technical advantages.

That is a matter of personal preference. But if you speak about dynamic range or such technical things, CD wins in every category.

Ice

It's only a shame SACD didn't take off because THAT wins over every other format, without a doubt.

Sadly it seems that despite wanting higher and higher quality TV, people want lower and lower quality music, just so that they can fit 1,000,000 songs in their pocket.

The beauty of CDs when they first came out was because they had room for more dynamic range than vinyl, but it got more and more abused as the years went on by record companies boost the volume of CDs louder and louder sacrificing the dynamics in the process. From what I've seen and heard recently, vinyl hasn't become a victim of that which is why I guess people opt for that rather than cd these days.

Vinyl is technically not "better" than cd, it's just CDs are poorly mastered these days.

I'm sorry all, don't mean to sound smart or anything but a well mastered Vinyl IS better than CD. I'm a recording engineer and there are some facts you should probably know.

Most commercial music nowadays is either recorded digitally or using the best of both world (that is, using both analog and digital means). by recording digitally I don't mean your avarage audio interface. I'm talking about high priced A/D converters (Analogue to digital). Bon Jovi make use of an SSL analgoue mixer which then goes into the converters and into Pro Tools. I assume their sessions, being the band they are, are recorded at a sample rate of 192kHz, 24 bit. After the mix is done and that final mix is mastered by a mastering engineer, it always has to end up at a maximum sample rate of 44.1kHz/16bit, which is the standard for CD. in this conversion, something called Dither is used to prevent data being loss in the downgrade of quality. As with vinyl, there is no need for such downgrade of the quality as the medium it uses is not digital.

Don't get me wrong, vinyl DOES have its limitations but assuming that the mastering is done by a decent engineer in a decent mastering studio, CD is NOWHERE better than Vinyl, so keep your wikis in your pocket.

Yeah, you should know better.

The trouble is that the VINYL isn't capable of saving the information. It's just not possible with vinyl, because there isn't enough "finesse" or what ever you want to call it in the material itself. It's capable of saving the information at the better quality, no matter what you try. And each and every time you listen to the record, the needle of the player scratches away bits and pieces of the vinyl so it degrades constantly. Not that it was ever as good as the CD to begin with.

Just read the article I posted, it has a very detailed test and review of both vinyl and CD.

It's basic physics. Vinyl is mechanical, CD is digital. CD has it's limitations as well, but it's well documented that the human ear can't hear that well, so it doesn't really matter. As to vinyl, the material, the way the soundwave is saved onto it and the way it's played makes it impossible for vinyl to ever be technically as good as a CD.

The sound a vinyl makes is a different thing, that is a matter of personal preference. Some like the "warmer" sound and the cracks and pops which every vinyl album will make when played back. No matter how good your equipment is. Again, it's just physics.

Ice

Here is a good explanation why vinyl can never be as good as a CD:
http://everything2.com/user/hardly/w...s/CD+vs.+vinyl

Ice

Ice is correct here - even the width of the grooves in vinyl is an average and a best scenario approximation. That's before even considering the quality of the needle used for playback and how much damage it does every time the record is played.

Digital is cleaner sound which some people interpret as harsh as compared to vinyl. I have a friend who insists that vinyl sounds better. He works at a very high end audio store selling very expensive audio equipment. So a few years ago we had an A / B blind listening test at my house. I have a very high end bi-amped audio system (purchased from the same friend). My friend brought over his precious vinyl and we cued up the CD player and the record at the same spot and ran them through two separate but identical Bryston pre-amps. He guessed wrong about which was playing almost every time. By the end of the evening he finally had to conclude that yes, CDs could sound as good as vinyl.

I was thinking about getting the vinyl version, too, but rather as a collectible item. As of now, I'm going for the USB version first (has this been mentioned here at JT?):

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...HL._SS350_.jpg

I WANT THAT! Have you found anyplace that's actually selling them at this point? Amazon in the U.S. doesn't have them.

EDIT - oh wait, I just saw the link. Sorry. Wow, that's pricey, but I love the heart and dagger logo . . .

It's very pricey - and in one of the threads here I read that the videos are not even full screen. I decided to pass it by as much as it appeals to me as a gadget.

Amazon US have had it as a coming soon item for ages. I was going to wait as I had hoped it might be cheaper there.

After scouring the net I ended up finding it being the cheapest right here in Australia (unusual).

Its from JB Hifi its only $67 aussie dollars which is about the same in US dollars. Mine should be arriving next couple of days.

https://www.jbhifionline.com.au/musi...ion-usb/584574

Forgot this place is only $48 US for the usb

http://www.insound.com/Greatest-Hits...vi/P/INS82433/

Good for anyone in the US as they dont appear to ship internationally.

When I added up the averages, the total if you buy the GH Ultimate and the Video DVD, it would run you about $35 with tax in the US. So you're only paying about $15 extra for everything on a USB, which isn't too outrageous. Certainly it is much smaller than lugging around a CD and a DVD, and some cars have USB ports nowadays, I believe.

Love the sound off vinyl.
Warmth and bottom end are def better .
Just get youself a technics deck some stanton Needles and cartridges or even orfon ones and put in one side of a mixer and put cd player in the other and you will notice a difference big time...
Long live the wax-

Did anyone buy the vinyl version in the end? Any comments on the quality?

yes I bought it! good one! great quality! you can hear every single instrument in high quality, great mixing! I believe it worths the money...

That's cool. I have a turntable but it's a cheap USB one and the sound isn't outstanding, especially if I want to record onto my computer. I'm by no means experienced or well educated on vinyl/turntables but I'm gessing I need some quite pricey equipment to do the format justice.