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wolffex 03-09-2011 05:05 AM

I love DLS, It would work great live, have the crowd sing the 'Dirty Little Secret' part and it could be the next It's My Life. It's got a great chorus and a nice rhythm. It should replace track #6 on HAND

bjmjpl 03-09-2011 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1042906)
I don't know - I wasn't at that event and the only archive that exists that I know of is the fanclub tape.

all right do we need to have someone log into the fan club and ask - someone must so someone who was there for us completists :)

maybe they played a little teaser or something if they played it for real that would be shockingly AWESOME!!

bjmjpl 03-09-2011 05:21 AM

as long as we are speaking of great HAND session songs - Nothing totally rocks - i still cant believe that is in the vault and been given away....

Panda 03-09-2011 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wolffex (Post 1042967)
I love DLS, It would work great live, have the crowd sing the 'Dirty Little Secret' part and it could be the next It's My Life. It's got a great chorus and a nice rhythm. It should replace track #6 on HAND

You and I both know that wouldn't work. Crowd participation is easy with songs everyone knows, but a b-side would shut the audience up no matter how much it rocked. But it wouldn't because the song is very mediocre.

Crushgen24/88 03-09-2011 06:29 AM

Eh, I've never really cared for any of the HAND outtakes. I think they get a tad overblown around here. Only songs on the record they could honestly replace are Wildflower and maybe Bells of Freedom.

Jovimimi 03-09-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bjmjpl (Post 1042901)
whaaaaaat???? no one has a copy of this???

it was played like 10 seconds of the song a not at all 'special part of it and you could understand that Jon didn't WANT to sing that but obliged for 10 seconds at that fan club event .. it's definitely NOT really played

but it's like that for all the 'naughty' songs it's really obsessional for some fans to get it .. they must fantasy that something happens between the singer and the receiving end ... DLS is obsessing many because of what is said in the lyrics and IMo it's not performed because of that as well ...not need to feed the beast there are enough fans losing it at shows upon nothing no need for Jon to add those

well this is exactly How I feel about those called gems by fans .. they wouldnt be that great songs if the lyrics were not that graphic I bet on that ...

for me all those graphic songs are meant to NEVER be performed (DLS is not as graphic as LMIB but to me it's obvious Jon is not comfortable with any songs with 'special' lyrics )

RS8MB0R8 03-09-2011 01:59 PM

I don't know if it's been suggested (as I don't want to read the entire thread LOL) but how about assessing rarity as the average number of times it gets played:

total number of plays live/number of years since the songs release

This would surely give a truer reflection of how rare a song really is?

Even more accurate would be a total number of plays/number of shows since the songs release, although who could be arsed putting a list like that together? <cough>Seb?<cough> :D

That could be the defining rarity list for the Jovi catalogue!

Jovimimi 03-09-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 1043082)
I don't know if it's been suggested (as I don't want to read the entire thread LOL) but how about assessing rarity as:

total number of plays live/number of years since the songs release

This would surely give a truer reflection of how rare a song really is? Even more accurate would be a total number of plays/number of shows since the songs release, although who could be arsed putting a list like that together? <cough>Seb?<cough> :D

That could be the defining rarity list for the Jovi catalogue!

that is probably the only really accurate way to do a list but good luck to anyone doing it ... :shock::p

Supersonic 03-09-2011 02:18 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 1043082)
who could be arsed putting a list like that together? <cough>Seb?<cough> :D

That could be the defining rarity list for the Jovi catalogue!

<Cough> Go **** yourself <Cough> There's a reason why I haven't done it for many albums. :p

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

_SeBasTiAn_BaCh- 03-12-2011 05:43 AM

For me, the song that I would pay 1,000,000 to hear live would be If Thats What It Takes!
But unfortunately, even if they did It nowadays It wouldn't be 50% as powerfull as the album version.
I would kill someone to go back in time to 1995 and watch them perform this song live in Wembley!

Savvi 03-12-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by _SeBasTiAn_BaCh- (Post 1043389)
For me, the song that I would pay 1,000,000 to hear live would be If Thats What It Takes!
But unfortunately, even if they did It nowadays It wouldn't be 50% as powerfull as the album version.
I would kill someone to go back in time to 1995 and watch them perform this song live in Wembley!

Even if time travel were possible, know one would be able to watch it be performed live because it never was unfortunately!

Never Played
The Price of Love
Secret Dreams
(I Dont Wanna Fall) Into the Fire
Without Love
Woman In Love
Save a Prayer
Starting All Over Again
Hearts Breaking Even
If That's What It Takes
Bitter Wine
Save the World
She's a Mystery
I Could Make a Living Out of Loving You
Neurotica
Love Me Back to Life
No Regrets
Postcards from the Wasteland
Unbreakable
Dirty Little Secret
These Open Arms (HAND)
Walk Like A Man
Put the Boy Back In Cowboy
Live Before You Die
Fast Cars
Learn to Love

I quite like If That's What It Takes. Particularly the bridge before the last chorus and they add that effect onto Jon's voice. There are fair few better songs on TD though IMO. From that album id like to hear My Guitar.

_SeBasTiAn_BaCh- 03-12-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1043398)
Even if time travel were possible, know one would be able to watch it be performed live because it never was unfortunately!

...I quite like If That's What It Takes. Particularly the bridge before the last chorus and they add that effect onto Jon's voice. There are fair few better songs on TD though IMO. From that album id like to hear My Guitar.

Yeah I know! I was trying to say that it would be incredible if they had played this song in one of the Wembley concerts for instance... not that they actually played it! :D

Hearts Breaking Even and If Thats What It Takes for me are songs that deserved to be performed at least once...

Savvi 03-13-2011 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by _SeBasTiAn_BaCh- (Post 1043443)
Yeah I know! I was trying to say that it would be incredible if they had played this song in one of the Wembley concerts for instance... not that they actually played it! :D

Hearts Breaking Even and If Thats What It Takes for me are songs that deserved to be performed at least once...

Oh I get you now! My bad! :)

I love Hearts Breaking Even and always have. It does have an Aerosmith sound to it, but I think it's great.

TwinFan 03-13-2011 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1043489)
I love Hearts Breaking Even and always have. It does have an Aerosmith sound to it, but I think it's great.

I've never really liked Hearts Breaking Even. You're right about the Aerosmith vibe. Maybe that's why I don't like it. It seems only Aerosmith can pull off that song. I would say HBE and Cryin' are cousins (Cryin' is a far better song, IMO).

Savvi 06-30-2011 07:10 PM

Just looking back at this thread and really hoping one or two of those mega rare songs can get a play (unlikely).

From the list, only 3 have been played in the last 6 months - IHLYG, BOF and TYFLM - apart from Happy Now and Thorn, which will most likely be taken off the list by the end of the tour.

I'm wondering whether No Apologies and The More Things Change will end up on that list... has either passed the 25 play count mark?

Walkerboy 06-30-2011 10:15 PM

A friend of ours has said he won't got back to see a BJ gig unless they play If I Was Your Monther........ Needless to say, I suspect he's seen his last ever show already!

MJB12 07-03-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1039569)
Don't know the accuracy, had to use setlist.fm, only because the HAND section on Seb's site is down. ;)

If you change it from "HAND" to "hand" in the web address, it works.

heart&dagger 07-06-2011 05:44 PM

Dirty Little Secret ~ Would anyone consider?
 
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Originally Posted by Jovimimi (Post 1042892)
no ..... at the elements years ago Jon said during one of the first JON q&a that he thought that song with a couple of others sucked
I doubt they will ever do that one

That's a shame. I thought, that just maybe, the band might play it on this leg of the tour, just maybe ...

Wishful thinking, I know.

Personally, I love this song and think it would be even better, performed live.

***Would anyone, going to the future shows, consider holding up a sign requesting this song, I would love to see how Jon would react to the sign/request ? ? ?***

PLEASE.

And, thank you ...

Maxi 07-06-2011 06:29 PM

I got two out of my top three songs in Hyde Park - and those two, Dry County and These Days, are both songs that I actually had hopes that I would get to hear eventually since they still are 'in circulation' from time to time and not as rare as many of the songs mentioned here.

However, I somehow doubt I'll ever get to hear the third one live ever - Bitter Wine. :(

bonjovi90 07-06-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB12 (Post 1062998)
If you change it from "HAND" to "hand" in the web address, it works.

Thanks for the hint man! :)

Supersonic 07-06-2011 07:45 PM

Aloha !

Just some words from me; I like how people just check this site so often. There'll be a huge overhaul coming soon for the 1995 tour if I get round to finishing it (takes about 3 more hours I think).

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

heart&dagger 07-06-2011 08:39 PM

Seb, It only takes you three hours to build a "time machine"?

rotfl

I would love to go back to 1995 - I think I may have missed the very best days of this band while I was busy raising special needs kids and taking care of two elderly parents.

Let me know if you can make it work - I'll be right there with you.

:D

Supersonic 07-06-2011 08:40 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by superwoman (Post 1063352)
Seb, It only takes you three hours to build a "time machine"?

rotfl

I would love to go back to 1995 - I think I may have missed the very best days of this band while I was busy raising special needs kids and taking care of two elderly parents.

Let me know if you can make it work - I'll be right there with you.

:D

No, I'm not sure if you know, but I am the owner and creator of bonjovi-archives.com. The 1995 tour will get a complete overhaul soon, hence me mentioning this. :)

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

TwinFan 07-06-2011 10:36 PM

I check bonjovi-archives.com for past setlists before I check any other site. It's all there. It's cool just browsing through sets from the past, and seeing how they really haven't changed much. Most of the staples on the New Jersey or Keep the Faith tours are still staples today.

father_time 07-21-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1063353)
Aloha !



No, I'm not sure if you know, but I am the owner and creator of bonjovi-archives.com. The 1995 tour will get a complete overhaul soon, hence me mentioning this. :)

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

This site is excellent Seb - thanks

Savvi 02-13-2017 02:45 AM

Bumping this thread up again after the discussion about rare songs in the Sunrise show thread.

Check the first post for the full list which I've updated (I haven't included THINFS tracks just yet).

There was talk about which song got played the least despite having some popularity as a single, I think while songs like TYFLM, TAALS and Everyday are examples of this, I reckon All About Lovin' You takes the prize. It's been played only twice. That's the lowest of all singles I think. What's surprising also is if you watch the video of it (link in the opening post), it sounds like the crowd eats it up! They love it.

Walleris 02-13-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1218094)
Bumping this thread up again after the discussion about rare songs in the Sunrise show thread.

Check the first post for the full list which I've updated (I haven't included THINFS tracks just yet).

There was talk about which song got played the least despite having some popularity as a single, I think while songs like TYFLM, TAALS and Everyday are examples of this, I reckon All About Lovin' You takes the prize. It's been played only twice. That's the lowest of all singles I think. What's surprising also is if you watch the video of it (link in the opening post), it sounds like the crowd eats it up! They love it.

Good point, although I'd still vote TAALS. AALY is a very minor hit, perhaps only in UK it really had any significance (no. 4), comes from what I believe is their most forgettable album until WAN and I can't imagine fans begging to hear it either. Whereas TAALS is a legit hit and would lift an arena.

It really depends on the weight one assign to popularity vs. play count.


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