Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi (Post 1047936)

The Edge is known all over the world.

A lot of that has to do with the fact he's referred to as the Edge, how many people would be able to name drop Gordon Summer or Graham McPherson if they didn't go by the name Sting and Suggs?

As for your point about Keef. He was involved in an accident and no one is going to question the band for cancelling gigs in that situation. What's happening with Richie isn't an accident, it isn't out of the blue and it would leave a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths if they did start cancelling and **** up the whole tour on account of his drinking.

I genuinely think Jon is more concerned about being pragmatic than making money on this one (let's be fair he doesn't need it) but even if he is being a cynical money grubbing c*nt, as band leader it's his perogative, it's the music business not the music charity.

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi (Post 1047937)

Don't be dense, the Edge is as well known as Bono. I'd even wager more people could pick out an Edge guitar part than a Bono vocal.

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1047945)

This is just an example, but say he found out the other day that he has cancer, went home with his mind all over the place and thought 'I want to get smashed'. Could you blame him for that? Maybe he's had the drink under control until something monumentally bad has happened. We just don't know, but a lot of folk seem to have the stance that he's just not giving a shit.

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi (Post 1047924)

You're average Joe does read and listen to shit...

If you had to approach 10 people in the street and ask them who the Edge, Keef and Richie were, 9+ out of ten would know who Keef and the Edge were, I'd be shocked if more than 5 knew who Richie was.

I know people who have been to multiple Jovi shows that don't know who Richie is and don't care.

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi (Post 1047921)

Comparing Richie to Keef and the Edge who are worldwide megastars in their own right is ridiculous.

To your average Joe, Richie is the guy that used to bang Denise Richards and Heather Locklear not an integral part of a world famous band. If you're objective about it you know that's the truth.

Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1047940)

I need to apologise to VanJovi and anyone who was offended by my last post in this thread.

I completely understand if people arent going to go the show if they have to travel to get there, like Terri mentioned.

I just dont see why someone wouldn't go if it is in their home city. There really is nothing to lose except 3 hours? Maybe I see it differently because I live in Australia and we rarely get a good chance to see the band compared to people in North America.

I retract my 'stupidity' comment and will agree to disagree.

Still hoping for a speedy recovery for Richie.

Originally Posted by Solid Sambora (Post 1047950)

There's nothing dense about it. Go back out on your street and do another poll, ask 1000 people this time- name a member of U2. If The Edge is as well known as Bono, will 500 people choose him?

And we're talking about your Average Joe around the world, they're not going to 'pick out an Edge guitar part', they're gonna recognise a U2 song.

Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 1048025)

Hate to disagree with you man but I think The Edge's fame is based purely on his ridiculous nickname - it sticks in the mind. It certainly isn't anything to do with his musical prowess that's for sure.

Ask 500 people walking down the street to pick out Richie or The Edge from a line-up (no hats allowed! :p) and I think the results would be pretty much evenly balanced cos next to nobody would recognise them. I could quite easily bump into The Edge walking along the street unawares and not have a clue who he was even though I have listened to and watched plenty of U2 performances before.

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi (Post 1048064)

I'm pretty sure most people would be able to recognise the intro to Where the Streets Have No Name compared to anything Richie has done.