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Becky 08-27-2011 08:13 AM

Top Touring Act last month :)
 
http://www.billboard.com/events/hot-...05330472.story

angelsambo 08-27-2011 08:58 AM

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/chart...ntboxscore.jsp

Rank Artist/Event Venue City/State Event Dates Gross Sales Attend/
Capacity Shows/
Sellouts Prices Promoters

1 Bon Jovi, The Breakers, Brothers in Plugs Olympic Stadium
Athens, Greece
July 20, 2011
$6,594,404
60,652 /
60,652
1 /
1
$486.11, $347.22, $208.33, $69.44
Eleven Concerts/AEG Live

2 Bon Jovi, Death By Chocolate Stadion Letzigrund
Zurich, Switzerland
July 14, 2011
$5,324,955
37,125 /
37,125
1 /
1
$258.96, $219.78, $153.85, $57.25
Good News Productions AG/AEG Live

3 Bon Jovi, The Breakers, Tyler Ernst Happel Stadion
Vienna, Austria
July 22, 2011
$4,950,762
56,280 /
56,280
1 /
1
$309.86, $267.61, $121.13, $69.01
Novamusic/Showconnection/AEG Live

4 Bon Jovi, Klepht, Red Lizzard Parque da Bela Vista
Lisbon, Portugal
July 31, 2011
$4,811,609
57,832 /
57,832
1 /
1
$352.11, $133.80, $119.72, $77.46
Everything Is New/AEG Live

5 Bon Jovi, Stillborn, QuantiQ Piata Constitutiei
Bucharest, Romania
July 10, 2011
$4,000,892
53,030 /
53,030
1 /
1
$153.06, $119.05, $59.52, $29.93
East European Entertainment/DandD East Entertainment/AEG Live

6 Bon Jovi, The Breakers Esprit Arena
Dusseldorf, Germany
July 13, 2011
$3,446,927
43,625 /
43,625
1 /
1
$404.11, $191.78, $123.29, $84.93
United Promoters AG/AEG Live

7 Bon Jovi, Vintage Trouble, The Rising Rocket Maimarktgelande
Mannheim, Germany
July 16, 2011
$3,242,820
40,172 /
40,172
1 /
1
$215.28, $194.44, $125, $38.06
United Promoters AG/AEG Live

8 Bon Jovi, Flemt Stadio Friuli
Udine, Italy
July 17, 2011
$3,229,776
39,926 /
39,926
1 /
1
$169.56, $104.17, $91.67, $55.56
Barley Arts Promotion/AEG Live

9 Bon Jovi, The Rebels, The Monomes Estadio Olimpico
Barcelona, Spain
July 27, 2011
$3,021,325
39,992 /
39,992
1 /
1
$387.32, $133.80, $105.63, $28.17
Doctor Music/AEG Live

10 Bon Jovi, Rulo y La Contraband, The Rebels Estadio de Anoeta
San Sebastian, Spain
July 29, 2011
$2,806,226
34,798 /
34,798
1 /
1
$387.32, $133.80, $105.63, $28.17
Doctor Music/AEG Live

11 Bon Jovi, Sebnem Ferah, Redd Turk Telekom Arena
Istanbul, Turkey
July 8, 2011
$2,775,566
35,723 /
35,723
1 /
1
$341.94, $164.52, $72.90, $52.26
Puco Concerts Organizasyon/European Concert Agency/AEG Live


13 Bon Jovi, Arid, Billy The Kill Zeebrugge Beach
Bruges, Belgium
July 24, 2011
$2,711,036
29,497 /
29,497
1 /
1
$387.32, $146.48, $118.31, $76.06
Adria Entertainment/Lupa Promotion/AEG Live

SmirkSteve 08-27-2011 01:17 PM

What's the criteria for being in that list as it only seems to show a fraction of the concerts that took place last month? Just seems to be BJ and a select few others to make the BJ figures look impressive.

Supersonic 08-27-2011 01:42 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmirkSteve (Post 1072337)
What's the criteria for being in that list as it only seems to show a fraction of the concerts that took place last month? Just seems to be BJ and a select few others to make the BJ figures look impressive.

Yeah, and the Bon Jovi figures are skewed, like I predicted they'd be.

Bon Jovi in Mannheim 2003: roughly 65.000 people visited the show yet it wasn't sold out.

Bon Jovi in Mannheim 2011: roughly 40.000 people visted the show, yet it's sold out?

None of those shows were sold out. None of them. Yet they go ahead and change the numbers after the show. The Belgian concert organizers expected to sell 40.000 tickets, sold 28.000 tickets yet Jon claimed there were 35.000 people on the beach.

Overhyping only works to a certain extent. Any concert promoter in Europe knows they can make money on Bon Jovi, but any concert promoter also knows how impossible it was to sell out the venues in which Bon Jovi wanted to play. It's the reason why Japanese concert promoters gave up on them, they can't sell out where they want to play, hence so few dates in Japan.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

kleman 08-27-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1072338)
Aloha !



Yeah, and the Bon Jovi figures are skewed, like I predicted they'd be.

Bon Jovi in Mannheim 2003: roughly 65.000 people visited the show yet it wasn't sold out.

Bon Jovi in Mannheim 2011: roughly 40.000 people visted the show, yet it's sold out?

None of those shows were sold out. None of them. Yet they go ahead and change the numbers after the show. The Belgian concert organizers expected to sell 40.000 tickets, sold 28.000 tickets yet Jon claimed there were 35.000 people on the beach.

Overhyping only works to a certain extent. Any concert promoter in Europe knows they can make money on Bon Jovi, but any concert promoter also knows how impossible it was to sell out the venues in which Bon Jovi wanted to play. It's the reason why Japanese concert promoters gave up on them, they can't sell out where they want to play, hence so few dates in Japan.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan


Well this numbers are quite impressive! No other band beside U2 cant do a numbers like that and i mean around the world not just Europe. Dont know but how many bands can bring 30.000 peoples on the venue....not many right :)
Well almost all stadiums in Europe were full and i saw 3 of them, Munich was full, Vienna, Udine.......ok 20 seats were empty, big deal....

Supersonic 08-27-2011 03:18 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleman (Post 1072339)
Dont know but how many bands can bring 30.000 peoples on the venue....not many right :)
Well almost all stadiums in Europe were full and i saw 3 of them, Munich was full, Vienna, Udine.......ok 20 seats were empty, big deal....

It doesn't matter whether other artists can do it, other artists don't play in venues of which they know they can't sell out yet Bon Jovi do. When this tour started I wondered how they wer ever going to sell out those shows or close to sell them out.

Mannheim has a capacity of roughly 70.000 - 80.000 people. Bon Jovi sells 40.000 tickets, which means they didn't sell the 30.000-40.000 tickets. They knew this, yet to still make the same profit all tickets were more expensive than ever before in order for them to regain the losses they already knew they were making. This counts for all shows, and yet they still claim they sold them out which is once again pretending to be bigger than they are, a thing Jon has a fascination with. "Look at me, I belong to the big boys" while of all the big boys (Stones, U2, AC/DC and even Muse) he comes last. So yeah, other bands can outdo Bon Jovi, and they do it for a lot less as well.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

faith1985 08-27-2011 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1072341)
Aloha !



It doesn't matter whether other artists can do it, other artists don't play in venues of which they know they can't sell out yet Bon Jovi do. When this tour started I wondered how they wer ever going to sell out those shows or close to sell them out.

Mannheim has a capacity of roughly 70.000 - 80.000 people. Bon Jovi sells 40.000 tickets, which means they didn't sell the 30.000-40.000 tickets. They knew this, yet to still make the same profit all tickets were more expensive than ever before in order for them to regain the losses they already knew they were making. This counts for all shows, and yet they still claim they sold them out which is once again pretending to be bigger than they are, a thing Jon has a fascination with. "Look at me, I belong to the big boys" while of all the big boys (Stones, U2, AC/DC and even Muse) he comes last. So yeah, other bands can outdo Bon Jovi, and they do it for a lot less as well.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Are you sure they can play stadiums outside of the UK AND sell them out? Not that I really care that much, but I've seen them doing an arena tour a few years back in Germany and can't imagine seeing them in a stadium.

creep 08-27-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleman (Post 1072339)
Well this numbers are quite impressive! No other band beside U2 cant do a numbers like that and i mean around the world not just Europe. Dont know but how many bands can bring 30.000 peoples on the venue....not many right :)
Well almost all stadiums in Europe were full and i saw 3 of them, Munich was full, Vienna, Udine.......ok 20 seats were empty, big deal....

Well... the Rolling Stones, U2, AC/DC, Madonna are bigger than Bon Jovi all over the world, as well as Robbie Williams except for North America. Coldplay is bigger in Europe and Latin America. Springsteen is bigger in Europe and also Muse will be when they go on tour next time. In fact Muse are already bigger in the UK, Spain, Italy, France and the Netherlands.

Javier 08-27-2011 04:17 PM

It's always been like that, I don't know why it's so surprising to see it now. Every show, every arena/stadium is divided into sections, the sections that don't sell promoters simply do not count.

Supersonic 08-27-2011 04:25 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1072342)
Are you sure they can play stadiums outside of the UK AND sell them out? Not that I really care that much, but I've seen them doing an arena tour a few years back in Germany and can't imagine seeing them in a stadium.

Muse played Goffertpark, The Netherlands in 2010 and sold more tickets than Bon Jovi did in 2006. They've also done Stade de France (80.000 people) twice in France where as Bon Jovi struggles to sell out Bercy that holds about 20.000 people. I am well aware of Muse playing in arena's, but that's a choice they make. Whenever they play festivals, they headline, meaning that most tickets sold for the festivals are for Muse. Headlining Roskilde or Rock Werchter is a bigger deal than playing Randers or Zeebrugge.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan


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