Oh you've heard it in its entirety?

(cue the "no, but I know exactly what it'll sound like and it'll be shitty and my opinion is gospel so you're all wrong" response)

For better or worse...

Am I the only one who is happy for Richie looking great and doing his own stuff? Am I the only one waiting till its released, not listening to any crappy snippets and decided to judge the album in its entirety?

I'm 100% with you!

In general, I hate all those snippets and leaks. They just take the fun away from that moment when you finally listen to the full album for the first time. I wonder how much I would've liked Chinese Democracy for example if I didn't know most of the songs a couple years before the actual release.

Richie collaborates and releases some dance-rock songs. Everyone freaks because it's not the Richie they love. Richie releases 4 snippets that sounds like his usual sound, closer to US than Stranger, but more modern. Everyone freaks because it's nothing new. I think people are angry because they expected it to rock harder than BJ's recent releases. Because if Richie was truly being held back by Jon he'd use the solo album to show he knows how to rock and Jon's dictatorship is a hindrance.

I may hate this album. I may love it. It's been 4 samples, 3 of which I dig. Every recent Jovi release since his year's of turmoil he's said writing is cathartic and a way to get the demons out but no recent Jovi albums have showed that. I'm hearing emotion for the first time in a while out of him in what I've heard and I can't wait to hear more.

EDIT: Rearrange the samples and swap the places of the third and forth. Notice how well the sound meshes with Hard times come easy? It's not that far from his sound. You can't make the argument "this solo album should be his chance to show a different sound" and then praise Undiscovered Soul when it's the same vibe.

Go Matt :) I couldn't agree more. And I happened to love Undiscovered Soul.

I'm sorry, did you say Indie ? You're not suggesting those songs fall in the indie genre are you ? :P

Lol, I'm not arrogant Butters. I'm just saying that both stranger and U. Soul were different from jovi albums. I'm not saying Richie ever put forth that his albums were MEANT to be different. I'm just saying that we sort of expect it, right ? so calm your horses.

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Johny, you’re not alone at all. I am also very happy to see Richie happy, he looks great, fresh and healthy. That is very uplifting. I also haven’t checked those damn snippets and never will. I will wait for the release of the album too. There’s no greater feeling than having a brand new CD in your hands and listening to every single note for the first time, song by song. Especially from the artist one admires. Richie’s album is the thing I am excited in this whole year the most and I can’t wait to hear it – in its entirety!

The thing is, that negativity spreads much faster than positive thinking, and it’s much easier to criticize too. Funny thing is, that it’s already criticized, while the album is not even out there. How can someone make a judgment at this point is beyond me. Negativity is loud, while the positiveness is standing quiet on the side. It doesn’t mean it’s not there. Here’s something to think about: „Haters are losers pretending to be winners”. And that’s what we’ve been experiencing in this thread for the last few days from a couple of people.

But to tell you the truth, I don’t give a damn about it. Like I said, I don’t think in the last few years there has been anything I was so excited for as I am for Richie’s solo album. I can’t wait to hear his solo efforts after a decade, that actually led to the darkest moments of his life. I am glad he’s got those times behind him and I just feel he will express all that in his new music, lyrically and musically – and will begin the new bright chapter of his life, as a musician and as a person. And I will welcome anything he offers with open arms. It’s his album and he can do whatever he wants with it, whether it’s BJ like or something totally different. Whatever that will be, this is something that is in his heart right now, and that’s more than enough for me.

1. I think Richie is taking more of a Commercial approach to this album. He hired some heave hitters to help him out with it. I'd expect Richie to be more involved with writing and producing an album on his own if he was going more artistic.

2. If it sounds like a Bon Jovi album, that's ok. I happen to like Bon Jovi. Not everyone is looking for "The Artistic" album. I loved Stranger and though Undiscovered was just OK. If he was making Undiscovered 2, I'd be pissed. BTY, I hate to point out the obvious here but Richie does happen to contribute to the Bon Jovi sound so if a rock album done by Richie sounds a little bit like Bon Jovi during certain parts, it should sorta be expected. That sound is in his artistic blood.

3. I happen to like all these bands people are comparing it to. If Richie wants to make a trendy album and it's got a 30 Seconds to Mars sound, I see that as a good thing….. I don't see it as a lack of originality. I see that as keeping up with the times. There is a fine line with that and Richie's been around long enough and is talented enough not to cross it..... Now if it sounded like Adam Lambert, I'd be concerned.

4. There is no such thing as a 10 second snippet of a song that will blow people away! Unless it's some heavy guitar riff or some catchy hook, a ten second verse to a song is a waste of time.

I remembering hearing the snippet to Last Cigarette and was like, what the hell is this? After hearing the final product, I was totally wrong. If someone played me 10 seconds of Love for Sale (where Richie and Jon are conversing) and said this is New Jersey, I'd flush my head in a toilet bowl. The list is endless…..

5. I know it's in our nature to pass immediate judgment on these snippets (I'm guilty of it myself), but lets try to be open minded and have faith in the artist.

6. At the end of the day, I don't care what it sounds like as long as it sounds good to my ears.

So far, it's exactly what I expected to hear. And once I heard that the snippets were released, I'm reading exactly what I expected to be reading.

I'm sure you're not, but what you said was incredibly arrogant.

Maybe you and many others expect the album to be different from Bon Jovi material, and hope that it will be, but that doesn't for a second mean that the purpose of the album is to be different from Bon Jovi material.

The purpose of the album is whatever Richie wants it to be. He wrote the songs, he's made the music, and he's helped to produce it. It's his record. If he wants to write music that sounds like Bon Jovi then that's his prerogative.

And IMHO, Undiscovered Soul wasn't that different a sound from a Bon Jovi sound.

Not trying to stir things up, but it's Richie who set those expectations. All the interviews he's given were emphasising how this was going to be different from Bon Jovi, Richie experimenting, small label, lucky to have escaped big label so he can do what he wants solo, lot's and lot's of jamming etc. Now I know, it's just snippets of four songs. No one should make any judgement of a whole record based on 10 sec snippets of 4 songs. But hell, this band has set very high expectations in the past, only to let most people here down time and again. Of course people will be critical and sceptical, it's only normal.

You are right with Undiscovered Soul. It's not that different from Bon Jovi 2000+. Lot's of POP-driven mid-tempo songs with some R&B influences. Yet when it came out it did sound very very different from anything else.

Definitely some good points. I really think Undiscovered Soul and Destination Anywhere bridged the gap between 90's and 200's Jovi.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being critical but it's far too early. The jamming solos won't be in the verse or chorus, we know that's not Richie's style. He's not going to reinvent himself just for the sake of doing something different.

Aloha !

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Salaam Aleikum,
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I randomly went to site that leaked the clips and the video changed:

http://mpcamusicpublishing.com/catal...ichie-sambora/

It's mostly released songs, Our Secret Place, plus Richie's version of Willing to Try. Why would they pull it completely and replace it with one that still has a new song?

The list of the songs on the right of that site contains some known songs. But there are some titles I never heard about. Can they be the ones of the songs on his new record? Or maybe even titles of old b-sides?


According To The Gospel Of Love
Best Days Of My Life
Black And Blue
Con Air (instrumental)
Dirty Fingers
For All Of The Love Departed
Forever Mine
Get On Up
Great Hall Of Fame
God Is A Girl
Going It Alone
Let's Get Inside
The Lucky Ones
Oh, Yeah
One Night Understanding
Only Love Can Do
Our Secret Place
Pain Where There Once Was A Heart
Rear View Mirror
Someday
Somewhere Tonight
Trail Of Broken Hearts
Trying Not To Get Over You
Unprotected

We talked about that list a few pages back. 1 of those is on Desmond's album and a good chunk of them have been around forever on the ASCAP site, at least in title form.

It's my fault. I told him to come back. It's a lot better.

Ok, thank you...

Richie tweeted today:

Good morning everyone. Headin to Nashvillee today. Btw my record comes out early Sept. special offers and stuff in August

Richie Sambora ‏@TheRealSambora
Mastering my album today. Very exciting. Kinda sad when u finishing a personal record...

Per Richie's Twitter: Mastering with the legendary Stephen Marcussen. Sounding awesome. Sambora fans should be very happy with this one...

Richie Sambora ‏@TheRealSambora
Happy Saturday from sunny Cali. Mastered my record yesterday. Sounding like my best work...details to come..

Slight variation of previously linked video.

Beginning seems to be new previews.

We heard these previews at least two weeks ago! ;)

His website is back. Atm you can subscribe for a newsletter.

http://t.co/LEiU2FN7

John Rich tweeted a pic of Richie playing on the new Big and Rich record.

Richie will be performing 1 hr 15 mins show at music industry Sunset Sessions on Saturday 1145am-1 pm
www.sunsetsessions.org

I was listening to Hair Nation for a bit this afternoon (Sirius XM) and Keith Roth said that he'd heard a preview of Richie's album and he was very complimentary of it. He said the songs were great. He specifically mentioned the songwriting. He said he didn't think Bon Jovi fans would "gravitate" toward it though. Maybe it's more different from Bon Jovi's sound than what we heard on the previews. Or I suppose it's possible that since he plays 80's Bon Jovi he thinks that's what Bon Jovi fans would "gravitate" towards still today.

So it seems we have a title now - "Aftermath of the Lowdown".

I like that, sounds promising.

Edit: Release date September, 4th. Nice :)

There is also early edit of the tracks for new album available on SoundCloud

Found this:

http://soundcloud.com/phlcssns/sets/...of-the-lowdown

7 Years Gone is as good as expected from yt-previews :)

I wonder what he performed yesterday then?

There are 2 short of vids of LOAP and Wanted and he did play new songs according to people who were there.

Aloha !

Yeah, I feel the same. It's like I expected; a repetitive piece of shit that sounds like nothing but an intro for a show like Cold Case, CSI etc. Edit it down to 1 minute and it sounds impressive, make it longer and it's rubbish. It's the usual stuff people will be incredibly excited about the first few listens and then a year later they're bored to death by it, and when listening to most of the album it sounds like almost every song is like that.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Have anybody found the full version of the 4th song of previews in soundcloud?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWp46...tailpage#t=61s