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ZB_ 07-20-2012 06:30 PM
I didn't want to listen to the album till September. But as the official single was sent for us I've pressed 'play' for this one. What I've heard I didn't really liked. I told before that it sounds like Sambora closed in a production shell. I was afraid that whole album's gonna sound like this. Yesterday I've decided to give a shot to whole album and...

THIS IS AMAZING!!!

This is Richie that we know.. Same beautiful melodies, lyrics, but some of guitar lines just blew me away.. You can easily hear Jimi Hendrix influence on couple tracks.

One of the best albums I've heard lately... And 'lately' means couple years :D

Really, I'm shocked... He did it once again...It sounds awesome and really, really fresh, but not in the way that kills what Sambora is... It's like... The new quallity...

ave RICHIE SAMBORA!!!

Supersonic 07-20-2012 08:01 PM
Aloha !

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayster (Post 1086311)
There is obviously much more impressive guitar playing on the rest of the album. The outro solo of Seven Years Gone comes to mind. The best song on the album by far.
There is no impressive guitar playing on the album. It's all bland and very safe. The outro to Seven Years Gone might be different from your standard Bon Jovi but there's nothing impressive about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZB_ (Post 1086327)
One of the best albums I've heard lately... And 'lately' means couple years :D
When people make claims like this for mediocre albums like this one I wonder what other stuff they actually listen to.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

samboraisgodUK 07-20-2012 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1086331)
Aloha !

When people make claims like this for mediocre albums like this one I wonder what other stuff they actually listen to.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
I'd say I listen to quite a varied selection of music and I'd put this as one of my favourite albums of the last few years. Of course, I can think of plenty more albums which perhaps have better lyrics, or more interesting musicianship, or an overall display of talent. But for pure enjoyment, this is right up there for me.

steel_horse75 07-21-2012 09:46 AM
Some people are easily pleased

RS8MB0R8 07-21-2012 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1086359)
Some people are easily pleased
Some are impossible to please too. ;)

nrm123 07-21-2012 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8 (Post 1086368)
Some are impossible to please too. ;)
and others have got the heads so far up they will never change to new things

Supersonic 07-21-2012 06:56 PM
Aloha !

Quote:
Originally Posted by nrm123 (Post 1086377)
and others have got the heads so far up they will never change to new things
I don't mind new things, I'm open to new bands, I listen to any new band that's hip just to see what they've got to offer. I rarely become a fan of them but can appreciate for what they create just like I will never become a fan of Bruce Springsteen but still admire for what he does.

What Richie's made isn't new though, it's been done before. People thinking that Richie is doing a new thing have no idea of what's current. He's not embracing what's current, he's copying it and forgets to make it his own.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

nrm123 07-21-2012 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1086378)
Aloha !



I don't mind new things, I'm open to new bands, I listen to any new band that's hip just to see what they've got to offer. I rarely become a fan of them but can appreciate for what they create just like I will never become a fan of Bruce Springsteen but still admire for what he does.

What Richie's made isn't new though, it's been done before. People thinking that Richie is doing a new thing have no idea of what's current. He's not embracing what's current, he's copying it and forgets to make it his own.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
then why cant you admire Richie or Bon Jovi for what they do now? yes i understand the music they produce isnt as good as it was 15years ago or it doesnt match some of todays standards but they still produce decent stuff and atleast they are still producing.

Supersonic 07-21-2012 08:39 PM
Aloha !

Quote:
Originally Posted by nrm123 (Post 1086380)
then why cant you admire Richie or Bon Jovi for what they do now? yes i understand the music they produce isnt as good as it was 15years ago or it doesnt match some of todays standards but they still produce decent stuff and atleast they are still producing.
I don't admire them at all anymore for what they put out now. Why should I? The quality of records has rapidly been going downhill the past 10 years and The Circle was the first album for me that had no memorable songs. I think they're dead as a songwriters if they keep going down the road they've been going down this past decade. I have no doubt they're still able to write decent songs, but as long as they'll be catering to the average American audiences it'll be simplified dumbed down songs, just a tad better than what Kid Rock is producing.

Once they give up and start writing songs for the sake of having something to tell and wanting to be creative as opposed to wanting something to sell and putting a halt on creativity their music will be interesting again. I enjoy following their process but it's not looking to good now is it?

And by saying "at least they're still producing" you're making it sound like that's a good thing, but when you've got nothing to say you might as well shut up. It's the thing that Bon Jovi just refuses to do and instead they keep re-telling the same story over and over and over again. The only thing Bon Jovi gives me nowadays is the pleasure of live shows and hanging out with people who take Jon just as seriously as I do. I don't feel their latest efforts are decent. A decent song is something I want to hear again, yet I haven't played The Circle since it's been released. So really, what's there to admire?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

ZB_ 07-21-2012 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1086384)
I haven't played The Circle since it's been released. So really, what's there to admire?
The same for me, I don't like new albums since 2005 and hardly ever listen to couple of songs from those albums. The new efforts are really disappointing. Material, strange effects, lame production and all that stuff.

But Richie's new record.. I know it's not like a milestone of rock or something, but I'm really enjoying it. And I like to hear the songs again. When you compare it to 'The Circle' the guitar is much more interesting. And 'Burn The Candle Down' sounds like Hendrix' stuff.. And that's what I like.

But when it comes to new Bon Jovi album, I'm not really waiting for it. Lost my interests in new albums. Maybe they'll surprise me?

milomom 07-21-2012 08:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nrm123 (Post 1086290)
'Headin back east today for a gig. Gonna be a lotta fun. God knows how many people at this one..'


is it with the band? or solo?
This was a full band corporate gig. Last night they played the closing party at a big Microsoft conference here in Atlanta. Maroon 5 opened.

Captain_jovi 07-24-2012 05:21 PM
Some of the song titles are on ASCAP.com.

Backseat Driver
Burn that Candle down
Every Road
Forgiveness Street
Nowadays
Seven Years Gone
Sugar Daddy
Taking a chance on the Wind
I’ll always walk beside you

Are all registered as being written by Richie and Luke. The others aren't up, oddly enough.

nrm123 07-27-2012 08:35 PM
Just found out the chord sheet i created has spread like a disease and if you google it is mine :) just wished id stamped it now loooool.

cover is up :D not the best performance some errors but this is the first time i have ever learned a song fully by ear, usually i watch other covers, live videos etc but because there are none i didnt. Every Road Leads Home To You Cover

nrm123 07-27-2012 08:38 PM
@TheRealSambora 26 July
Hey Wednesday's arrived. More interviews, workin on the live shows, preparing for the vid. Workin with amazing director Diane Martell

@TheRealSambora 22 Hours Ago
Yo...just did an interview with @benjy_eisen from @RollingStone Thanks Benjy!

@TheRealSambora 17 Hours Ago
Rockin it .....designed new acoustic gtrs with Rockbridge Guitars and a special album package with @totalboxmusic that'll be available soon!

@TheRealSambora 10 Hours Ago
Hey shooting my video in like 5 hours.. My call time is 4am. It better turn out good right?

‏@TheRealSambora 10 Hours Ago
Peace out.......

@TheRealSambora 6 Hours Ago
Stevie Ray on the radio.... We're goin further into the deesert..3 and a half hours sleep and our courageous team is rolling out..

@TheRealSambora 1 Hour Ago
On the set of the "Every Road Leads Home To You" video 100* at 9am #video #hot #desert pic.twitter.com/uwSjSkDk
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...39099238_n.jpg

Elvistico 08-06-2012 01:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1086384)
Aloha !



I don't admire them at all anymore for what they put out now. Why should I? The quality of records has rapidly been going downhill the past 10 years and The Circle was the first album for me that had no memorable songs. I think they're dead as a songwriters if they keep going down the road they've been going down this past decade. I have no doubt they're still able to write decent songs, but as long as they'll be catering to the average American audiences it'll be simplified dumbed down songs, just a tad better than what Kid Rock is producing.

Once they give up and start writing songs for the sake of having something to tell and wanting to be creative as opposed to wanting something to sell and putting a halt on creativity their music will be interesting again. I enjoy following their process but it's not looking to good now is it?

And by saying "at least they're still producing" you're making it sound like that's a good thing, but when you've got nothing to say you might as well shut up. It's the thing that Bon Jovi just refuses to do and instead they keep re-telling the same story over and over and over again. The only thing Bon Jovi gives me nowadays is the pleasure of live shows and hanging out with people who take Jon just as seriously as I do. I don't feel their latest efforts are decent. A decent song is something I want to hear again, yet I haven't played The Circle since it's been released. So really, what's there to admire?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan


How can anyone who believes the band or Jon or Richie haven't put out anything decent in more than 10 years and who keeps slaughtering every new thing they do, spend so much time on this board? You sound like a nostalgic freak.

Or is it just too hard to build up the same knowledge of facts and figures about another band that is still getting you excited and become their Mr. Know-it-all and 'You can have your opinion but only mine is the right one' ...

Mongoose 08-06-2012 01:49 AM
To be fair to Seb there's nothing wrong with being a fan of the old stuff but not new stuff, saying someone cant have that opinion is pretty silly if you step back and think about it. Nostalgia is a powerful beast! Why spend so long on this board? A lot of us have grown up on this board :D yourself included..

And yeah he is pretty full of knowlege...and shit! :cool:

Tixy 08-06-2012 11:09 PM
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Captain_jovi 08-06-2012 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tixy (Post 1086940)
All were surprised by how poor it was, eh? Did I miss the vote? Is it too late to submit a ballot?

Supersonic 08-06-2012 11:32 PM
Aloha !

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1086941)
All were surprised by how poor it was, eh? Did I miss the vote? Is it too late to submit a ballot?
It's only been some fanboys on here that have been raving about some stuff. On other boards where the leak was dropped no one was surprised and considered it the same dire stuff Bon Jovi has been releasing over the years. And that includes the people that follow guitarists and know what Sambora has been capable of as a solo artist.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Captain_jovi 08-07-2012 12:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1086942)
Aloha !



It's only been some fanboys on here that have been raving about some stuff. On other boards where the leak was dropped no one was surprised and considered it the same dire stuff Bon Jovi has been releasing over the years. And that includes the people that follow guitarists and know what Sambora has been capable of as a solo artist.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
Why does someone have to be a fanboy to like the album? The only way to like it is to blindly like everything he touches?

Butters 08-07-2012 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1086942)
Aloha !



It's only been some fanboys on here that have been raving about some stuff. On other boards where the leak was dropped no one was surprised and considered it the same dire stuff Bon Jovi has been releasing over the years. And that includes the people that follow guitarists and know what Sambora has been capable of as a solo artist.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
Yawn.



xxxxxxxxxxxx

Supersonic 08-07-2012 10:58 PM
Aloha !

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elvistico (Post 1086909)
Or is it just too hard to build up the same knowledge of facts and figures about another band that is still getting you excited and become their Mr. Know-it-all and 'You can have your opinion but only mine is the right one' ...
Who says I don't have the same knowledge of other bands as well? Why do people think you can only be a die hard of one band? I follow many bands, I've not just shut down for any other music out there, it's a mistake many die hards make. For certain people there's 1 band and that's (in this case) Bon Jovi, and there's nothing that can top it on any level. And if this works for you, that's fine. Just don't critisize the people who are able to open up to other stuff out there.

Because there is so much more out there, but as soon as you're not letting any other music get to you because it's no Bon Jovi you'll never be able to understand what people talk about when comparing them to another act who does certain things better. I enjoy discovering the creative process artists go through. With Bon Jovi though, their creativity seems to be long gone and has had to make room for anything that'll sell.

And for the record; Ofcourse I think my opinion is the right one, anyone who isn't convinced his own opinion isn't the right one is quite retarded. "Yeah I think this music is good, but you think it sucks so it must be right". Herpaderp.

Discuss what I've got to say and bring your own arguments to the table and you might change my point of view, but if all you do is arguing over it yet you won't offer anything to make me change my outlook on things it won't change a thing.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

captain__kidd 08-08-2012 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1086978)
Aloha !



Who says I don't have the same knowledge of other bands as well? Why do people think you can only be a die hard of one band? I follow many bands, I've not just shut down for any other music out there, it's a mistake many die hards make. For certain people there's 1 band and that's (in this case) Bon Jovi, and there's nothing that can top it on any level. And if this works for you, that's fine. Just don't critisize the people who are able to open up to other stuff out there.

Because there is so much more out there, but as soon as you're not letting any other music get to you because it's no Bon Jovi you'll never be able to understand what people talk about when comparing them to another act who does certain things better. I enjoy discovering the creative process artists go through. With Bon Jovi though, their creativity seems to be long gone and has had to make room for anything that'll sell.

And for the record; Ofcourse I think my opinion is the right one, anyone who isn't convinced his own opinion isn't the right one is quite retarded. "Yeah I think this music is good, but you think it sucks so it must be right". Herpaderp.

Discuss what I've got to say and bring your own arguments to the table and you might change my point of view, but if all you do is arguing over it yet you won't offer anything to make me change my outlook on things it won't change a thing.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
Great post Seb!

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2012 05:10 PM
Track List Aftermath of the Lowdown

International Version 18.9.2012

1 Burn That Candle Down
2 Every Road Leads Home To You
3 Taking A Chance On The Wind
4 Nowadays
5 Weathering The Storm
6 Sugar Daddy
7 I’ll Always Walk Beside You
8 Seven Years Gone
9 Learnin’ How To Fly With A Broken Wing
10 You Can Only Get So High
11 World

Japan Version 12.9.2012

1 Burn That Candle Down
2 Every Road Leads Home To You
3 Weathering The Storm
4 Nowadays
5 Taking A Chance On The Wind
6 Sugar Daddy
7 I’ll Always Walk Beside You
8 You Can Only Get So High
9 Learnin’ How To Fly With A Broken Wing
10 Forgiveness Street
11 Seven Years Gone
12 World
13 Backseat Driver (bonus track)
14 Let’s discus on the call (bonus track)

Total Music Box version

??????

unconfirmed.

Simon 08-08-2012 07:25 PM
Where is this from?

TwinFan 08-08-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by captain__kidd (Post 1086987)
Great post Seb!
Seb worshiper!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make up your own damn mind!!!!!!1!!1!!!!!11!!

ticos_stick 08-08-2012 07:52 PM
Backseat Driver cannot be left out surely? :-|

Supersonic 08-08-2012 07:54 PM
Aloha !

Quote:
Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1087006)
Backseat Driver cannot be left out surely? :-|
Yeah, it's a bonus track. Details for Japan leaked a few weeks ago I think. This album is so terribly bland and uninteresting, it's 2 good songs and that's it really. I just can't believe how someone who's gone through such a shitty last few years has so little to write about.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2012 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1087007)
Aloha !



Yeah, it's a bonus track. Details for Japan leaked a few weeks ago I think. This album is so terribly bland and uninteresting, it's 2 good songs and that's it really. I just can't believe how someone who's gone through such a shitty last few years has so little to write about.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
Well that's your opinion, I have quite another.

captain__kidd 08-08-2012 09:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1087005)
Seb worshiper!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make up your own damn mind!!!!!!1!!1!!!!!11!!
Well arent you the biggest cry baby? I usually don't like any posts from Seb but this one I did like.. Go on and hate some more..

TwinFan 08-08-2012 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by captain__kidd (Post 1087019)
Well arent you the biggest cry baby? I usually don't like any posts from Seb but this one I did like.. Go on and hate some more..
If you didn't know, I used sarcasm in my post. ;)

captain__kidd 08-08-2012 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1087022)
If you didn't know, I used sarcasm in my post. ;)
Ha then I'm sorry ;) At least I'll know to be prepared for sarcasm from now on;)

nrm123 08-12-2012 02:48 PM
Richie now has blonde hair...

KeepTheFaith2211 08-12-2012 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nrm123 (Post 1087133)
Richie now has blonde hair...
You are lying, right?

EDIT: I apologise. You aren't. Oh dear God.

buchi 08-12-2012 07:39 PM
https://p.twimg.com/A0GuzCKCUAAanl1.jpg

TwinFan 08-12-2012 07:52 PM
https://p.twimg.com/A0GuzCKCUAAanl1.jpg

Oh lord.

Emisambora 08-12-2012 07:59 PM
this is a yesterday news,
he did the same for real life video...

I donīt see the big deal

Captain_jovi 08-12-2012 08:13 PM
Hahah he does the photoshoot for the new album, films the first video and THEN drastically changes the way he looks.

EDIT: https://p.twimg.com/A0HIwCuCUAEDuOg.jpg

Supersonic 08-12-2012 08:16 PM
Aloha !

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1087152)
Hahah he does the photoshoot for the new album, films the first video and THEN drastically changes the way he looks.

EDIT: https://p.twimg.com/A0HIwCuCUAEDuOg.jpg
Yeah, that's what I thought as well. And that blonde look looks proper trailer trash.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

DevilsSon 08-12-2012 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1087152)
Hahah he does the photoshoot for the new album, films the first video and THEN drastically changes the way he looks.

EDIT: https://p.twimg.com/A0HIwCuCUAEDuOg.jpg
Holy ****! I think the guy is going through some shit again. Poor Richie. Get on the road again!!


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