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Captain_jovi 08-10-2012 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bjmjpl (Post 1087064)
just trying to share best practices...too many people on here wimp out and say there is no way to do things better and theyre clearly are...and you dont have to sacrifice money, integrity, or art to do them....you just have to care...

No, the AUDIENCE has to care, and they don't. You're preaching to the choir, we agree that things should be different.

bjmjpl 08-10-2012 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1087065)
No, the AUDIENCE has to care, and they don't. You're preaching to the choir, we agree that things should be different.

i dunno people on here dont even seem to care, they lazily accept the ways things are as the way the have to be....if some of the people on here are too lazy, youre right, what chance to we have that the general audience wont be lazy, and therefore leave us with a lazy band....

i predict a material decline on the next tour if nothing changes...

ticos_stick 08-10-2012 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bjmjpl (Post 1087066)
i dunno people on here dont even seem to care, they lazily accept the ways things are as the way the have to be....if some of the people on here are too lazy, youre right, what chance to we have that the general audience wont be lazy, and therefore leave us with a lazy band....

i predict a material decline on the next tour if nothing changes...

Say what?

http://drycounty.com/jovitalk/showthread.php?t=54078

TwinFan 08-10-2012 03:32 AM

I don't wanna sound like a total dick, but why the hell is this in the Bon Jovi section (again!)?

Becky 08-10-2012 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1087068)
I don't wanna sound like a total dick, but why the hell is this in the Bon Jovi section (again!)?

You don't sound like a dick. Again, this is not Bon Jovi topic. It's a Pearl Jam topic.

bjmjpl 08-10-2012 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1087074)
You don't sound like a dick. Again, this is not Bon Jovi topic. It's a Pearl Jam topic.

Again it is not...it is a look at what this band does - wouldnt it be a good idea for bon jovi, the fanclub, etc....

try to have an open mind - is the board too cluttered these days with relevant topics?? :)

bjmjpl 08-10-2012 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1087067)

good point - as i said - some people....

maybe we should start a thread of best practices the band could adopt so as not to be hijacked by the thread hawks...

we only have so much time before terri gets involved and dumps my thread to the nether regions....again....

:)

Captain_jovi 08-10-2012 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bjmjpl (Post 1087066)
i dunno people on here dont even seem to care, they lazily accept the ways things are as the way the have to be....if some of the people on here are too lazy, youre right, what chance to we have that the general audience wont be lazy, and therefore leave us with a lazy band....

i predict a material decline on the next tour if nothing changes...

What do you propose we do? Go to shows and nudge the arm of every concert goer at a Bon Jovi show and say "hey, check out this album track, you'd really like it"? The band has marketed themselves to the casual fan, like it or not it's the truth. It's not going to change. Bon Jovi are not Pearl Jam. Once again, Pearl Jam get away with what they do because they don't have 10+ hits that they have to play every show. Come on man, you have to agree by now that Pearl Jam are not the same type of "Hit makers" as BJ.

bjcrazycpa 08-10-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1087077)
What do you propose we do? Go to shows and nudge the arm of every concert goer at a Bon Jovi show and say "hey, check out this album track, you'd really like it"? The band has marketed themselves to the casual fan, like it or not it's the truth. It's not going to change. Bon Jovi are not Pearl Jam. Once again, Pearl Jam get away with what they do because they don't have 10+ hits that they have to play every show. Come on man, you have to agree by now that Pearl Jam are not the same type of "Hit makers" as BJ.

Yea, being a hit band is a curse and a blessing. I've been to just over 100 Bon Jovi shows, if I NEVER heard Bad Name, Prayer, etc, I'd be fine, but for this band I'm a micro percentage of what makes up the ticket buyers to their shows (speaking for the US only). Unfortunately, for diehards the normal ticket buyer is going for 1) the party atmosphere 2) to hear songs they know. The one thing that Jon hates and will guarantee autopilot from him is if the crowd is dead.

Captain_jovi 08-10-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1087081)
Yea, being a hit band is a curse and a blessing. I've been to just over 100 Bon Jovi shows, if I NEVER heard Bad Name, Prayer, etc, I'd be fine, but for this band I'm a micro percentage of what makes up the ticket buyers to their shows (speaking for the US only). Unfortunately, for diehards the normal ticket buyer is going for 1) the party atmosphere 2) to hear songs they know. The one thing that Jon hates and will guarantee autopilot from him is if the crowd is dead.

Yep, dead on. The first few shows of the Circle tour are a testament to that.


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