Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1100136)

I think this site gets an unfair rep for being too negative. I think what you mistake it for BobbyJovi is us micro-analysing every little thing. Its like having a Bon Jovi thread on another forum you get a general conversation, but here we literally discuss every little thing about the band. Some good, some bad. Some people more negative, some more positive, some on the wind up.

Its been said before that's it like supporting your favourite football team, and its a perfect analogy. You may abuse and criticise from the touchlines, but you still support them and want them to perform to their best. Saying you cant pass opinion if you havent had a hit single is at best childish at worst plain retarded.

We can easily pass judgements on setlists- if they are shit we will call them out on it. This isn't backstage. Equally because a set list looks shit on paper, doesn't make the show bad- again, we can only judge on what we see in a PBP and then once we see the video and then hear the fan reports can you get the real picture. But again, the criticising is because we all want them to put on the best show they can. Why be satisfied with a half arsed phoned in show when you know they can do better?

You say "But you will criticise this band over and over again.If you don't like them why come here???" I suggest the same if you can't take reasoned adult discussion both good and bad. I know there are some comments that don't fit that, but its the internet, it happens. But you have a group of very big fans where who know a hell of a lot about the band and have been to a hell of a lot of shows and will continue to do so. They have every right to say they don't like the new single. I didn't at first, still don't rate it that highly, it doesn't diminish my love for the band. Equally if some people love it, some hate it that's great. I like Work For The Working Man and hate Just Older. Different strokes for different folks.

But don't just come in and put everyone down if you don't join the discussion in the first place

Originally Posted by BobbyJovi (Post 1100116)

I find this site hilarious.

Let me get this right.

A bunch of fans who don't sound like fans get on a Bon Jovi site and constantly tear the band to shreds no matter what they release.

On top of that,They still attend the shows but then criticise the set list and Jons' voice.You call yourself fans?

Have any of you morons had a hit single or an album out or even toured extensively for that matter?BIG ****IN NO.

But you will criticise this band over and over again.If you don't like them why come here???

As for this SEB guy...who the **** are you?Are we supposed to know you?

Mate don't be so jealous that this legendary band has made great music for 30 years while you're still trying to put out a single.

By the way the new song is awesome..so stick that in your pipes and smoke it.

Originally Posted by Wonderland (Post 1100138)

Well said man! I've been looking on here for years every now and again mainly for the comedic value of most of the people on here that think they know Bon Jovi and what its about. I rarely post because it seems pointless I'm not into bashing others opinions which this site seems to be more about. Most on here (not all) Don't have the first clue about songwriting, production etc. just my opinion

Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1100149)

BWC is No.20 in the UK midweeks, so the fall is already beginning from the early days sales. Bowie not there, so it has been excluded.

Originally Posted by zero_zero_UFO (Post 1100150)

I believe that charts quoted previously were iTunes? I suspect this midweek chart is compiled from more sources than that.

Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1100149)

BWC is No.20 in the UK midweeks, so the fall is already beginning from the early days sales. Bowie not there, so it has been excluded.

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1100153)

It hasn't even begun yet!

This is NOT an album but a single. It doesn't work the same. Ask any average person walking down the street what they think of the new Bon Jovi song. All will say, what Bon Jovi song?

It's going to take months for this thing to take off. A successful song released in January, could be the song of the summer.

My guess is by March, we'll start hearing it on radio more frequently

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1100153)

It's going to take months for this thing to take off. A successful song released in January, could be the song of the summer.