Which sucks balls.

Not his greatest song like but it's not terrible. Nice ballad but certainly not a lead single. Will do well in charts either way.

Has anyone heard the song much on radio yet? I know it's early days but be interested to know.

Heard it on CoolFM about 20mins ago. It was an odd experience.



Andi

But it's always the same people moaning about the same shit for ages who bring the board down. If the fare at the restaurant hasn't been to your liking for a while now then goto another restaurant. So your theory blows, sorry

Great post and good point. Perhaps you have put things into perspective a bit. I haven't belittled anyone for disliking the song. But there was so much negativity prior to the release by the same people and surprise surprise it's carrying on after. It was always going to be written off in their eyes. Negativity is contagious and is definitely proven on this board

Well, after listening it more than 50 times on a day I can officially say that the track is not that bad but it's awful for a Bon Jovi single. Still it's catchy and it seems to follow the line of the four Greatest Hits tracks (if you play the five of then, you'd realize that they could be all on an EP).

But... yeah. Too weak for a lead single, maybe if it was other track on the album we wouldn't be bitching this much.

Now, some replies:
I totally agree with you! I can't believe this single when Richie just released great songs like those. Nowadays could be a great single.

Actually, Who Says You Can't Go Home has more soul than this. lol.

Maybe because it's only $1 and people want to listen to it on good quality to see if it sucks?

I dislike this song a lot but, please, don't let that happen. I want new Bon Jovi music because I'm a fan, and I believe that it doesn't matter if they release a Jon's fart as a single, most people of this forum will want a new and better record.

We can't talk about the album with only one or two songs. But I also want to see who played what and where :P

Excuse me, I didn't slept to listen this song (Argentina) and I was on the forum since minute 1 and the reviews were all the same. I don't know what you're talking about.

Also, These Days sucks? These Days is a masterpiece. For god's sake I don't know why I'm even repling to you.

This is a forum to discuss about Bon Jovi, and if I don't like a song I'm going to say it, as I'm going to say if I like one. You need to grow up and start to respect opinions that differ from yours.

y da **** are you all so concerned about the album/single charting ?! Like BJ aren't rich enough or don't have enough #1s ? what do you care ? seriously, I don't get it.

It's a validation for some people who need it to support their own beliefs. But it's also sometimes just nice to have positive recognition of something that you yourself support - no harm in that, but a shame that in this case this single is no where near a fair representation of what is best about this band or what they are capable of.
'Superman tonight' was a far superior single but didn't exactly light up the charts which I personally would have liked to have seen happen, because I liked that song and would have been, in some way, proud of the success/to be a bon jovi fan then. Fandom is a strange thing.


Andi

Speaking about charts, number 1 on iTunes Argentina.

http://oi45.tinypic.com/nqaik2.jpg

Its not about discussing opinions of course thats what we are here for. But theres a way to do it. In an adult way. I just dont get the abuse people are getting for liking or disliking it. If you dont like it then tell us why. Just dont say "this song is sh*t" give us something to debate about.

I could resort to a snappy one liner about your growing up comment like "I am - ask your mum" but Im too old and mature for that. ;)

I've said why I don't like it since... I don't know, page thirty-something of the post: Plain song, with no feelings, also, the solo it's a shame and the production sucks (i was specting a Have A Nice Day at least); it's catchy, I've listened it more than 50 times, so I'm not going to say that I hate it because I don't, but this is Bon Jovi we're talking about! They can do better songs and this is surely the weakest single they've released.

Ineligible for the chart as far as Im aware

I agree the solo is piss poor and have said that id like see Jovi work with Bob Rock again or someone new like Rick Rubin. Shanks just makes them sound tinny.

Really? It's number 2 on iTunes chart now.

Yeah but I think it will be removed from the official chart by the OCC due to something to do with the pre-order process from what I have read, similar to a recent Rolling Stones single. We shall see, it could top the itunes chart but not make the official Top 40.

We need to wait until next week to see how it charted on the Billboard 100, right?

Every time i listen to it i enjoy it more. Its great. I dont care if its got a 5 minute shred in the middle. TBH im thinking 2 things about the guitar parts. One could be that RIchie was working on his album and Jon created the solo or Jon restricts Richie to what we have heard. Theres no way Richie an go from jamming on his own tracks to this in a matter of months. Anyway i still like it and i think its better than anything ive heard the band do in the last decade

The tone of the solo really doesn't help. I don't know what effects they have put on it, but it sounds like its coming through an old radio speaker. It accentuates the worst part of it really. I can live with the start of it, but I don't like how it loops back and starts the same bit again before ending by just seeming going up chord by chord, like pressing each key on a piano up one by one. Annoying, the only seemingly good bit of the solo is right at the end, and the production has just faded that right out of the mix.

As you can tell, I'm not down with the technicalities of guitar playing :lol:

They can't possibly make it sound worse live, so at least it wont sound too bad at the shows.

Wait. Do you really believe this is better than Have A Nice Day? Better than It's My Life or better than the great rock songs of Bounce (Undivied, Everyday and Bounce)? :confused:

I guess that I'm not going to talk anymore about the album until I hear a new single, or the whole album.

Also, I asked my 15 years old brother what he thinks about the song: "Well, it might suck but, i don't know, it's cool one".

this lyric video is nicely done

yes i do, the last few singles from Bon Jovi have been attempts at Radio freindly songs, they didnt work but i think this one will. I like all of those songs but this one i feel more

Jon said he not see his new single on the radio in a interview from Tv. Damn liar. Not autentic, not original, sounds like the worst Bon Jovi, and this set up to succeed in the radios.

#1 iTunes Brazil

its now No9 on UK I Tunes, 24 in US.

The fact it's charting pretty well will I guess justify Jon's decision to start off with it. Doesn't change the fact it's their weakest lead single ever (in my opinion).

Sure, it's not THAT bad and definitely grows on you after a while but I think collectively the fan-base have simply had their full of the same formulaic output. BJ and Springsteen have always been my two favourite artists. The difference between them is at 63 I still believe The Boss. Jon seems to have relinquished his creativity in order to play stadiums.

Then Don't! You're not doing me any favors. I've never read a post by you before anyway.

If you read down, I say that I'm ****ing with them. However, I still don't think TD is a masterpiece. I think it's got 6 great songs and 6 fillers. This new single is better than SFTP.

There you go, doing it again! You're digging yourself a very big hole, someone should start writing down a list of some of the stuff you say, you know, ''for da lulz''.


Andi

God damn, they need to tattoo dumb f uck on your face. Cause that's what you are.

Thats great but it's a single and not an album! It got there without radio play (1 day) so it's the fans buying it. This just tells us how many Bon Jovi fans are out there.

It could take 3 to 6 months for a single to evolve into heavy rotation. That's when we'll know if the single becomes a real hit.

You should write it all down because then you'll see I'm one of the only few who knows what they are talking about.

SFTP was one of the weakest single the US has had from Bon Jovi. They actually paired it with Lie To Me and it still bombed.

I call you guy’s text book fans. You haven’t lived this band and the times since '84. You make comparisons based off each other and whatever Wikipedia says.

That’s why no matter what you, Thinery, and the other idiots say, it means absolutely nothing to me.

You should do that, might relief some of your sexual tension!

This place gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of friendship.

Okaaaaaay... let's keep it about the music and our feelings around it, eh fellas... we've finally got some songs to discuss and this board is the best thing about the new single for me!

Kopper, my old chap, you obviously rate whether a single was good by it's sales, that's fine. I couldn't tell you whether a song has been a commercial bomb or a success off the top of my head, just whether or not I liked it.

SFTP has something BWC cannot even touch...

'Loneliness, has found a home in me. My suitcase & guitar are my only family.
I've tried to need someone, like they needed me; I opened up my heart but all I did was bleed.'

THAT is an example of simplicity as genius (it's a saying, I am not stating it's genius).

The above lyrics are an example of a general, non-specific lyric that resonates... it's exactly what this band used to do well (as you know, having been a fan for a long time) and gave up doing in favour of having a big beat and getting you to put your hands up. That kind of resonance with a lyric is what I miss about my band the most.

Just sayin...

Are you trying to change what you meant by that statement? Dp you genuinely think 'Because we can' is actually a better song than 'something for the pain' or are you now just stating that SFTP bombed in the U.S, which of course it kind of did and proves nothing of it's quality.

I'm a text book fan? What does that even mean. And don't lump me in with our dear Terry and his cohorts, they're another breed altogether :)


Andi

Oh Jesus people, play nice. It's good to have a bit more traffic with the new single to discuss, try not to put people off reading and posting by bickering and insulting each other.

There we go... an chance of sensible debate has ended... I would say it's like riling The Hulk but he'll enjoy that too much.

Kopper, relax... your view is valid but you lose your footing if you get wound up mate. Get back to your point and let's enjoy ourselves again kids...

I listened the single on my Mu-Te-Ki and I heared Richie's voice on the chorus, but can't define if the grave one is from Tico or Bobby (the voice reminds me of his on Every Word Was A Piece Of My Heart).

Edit: The song is finally available on Spotify! http://open.spotify.com/track/6SKERLaeje1zWmMvX3eXcp

I edited the song Because We Can, removing the intro of Jon singing the chorus in the begining, and the song sounds surprisingly much more emotional. A bad choice to start the song with that intro.

I just deleted all my negative posts so we can get back on track.

As far as SFTP goes, this is not a killer song as far as I am concerned. I'm a Bon Jovi fan so I like all songs but even to this day, the first verse gets me pumped and by the second, I'm sleeping. It's just way over produced and the lyrics are just ok, typical Bon Jovi lyrics. It's one of songs that just fades from start to finish.

It's not one of my go to songs when I'm in the mood for Bon Jovi.

Now it's still too early to tell but I really like BWC because it's catchy and doesn't lose me after the second verse. This type of song is not deep so the lyrics are irrelevant but I could see this going over very well live. If a song like this could be a top 20 and spark some new fans then I'm happy.

The singles are for the average listener and the rest of the album is for me.