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MrIks from Finland 02-11-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1105649)
What do you guys think about something like this? Exactly the same quantity of pre-2000 songs that on the concert but with a, in my opinion, better setlist. A post-2000 setlist doesn't mean a shitty one, they made a shitty one because they can.

1. Livin' On A Prayer
2. You Give Love A Bad Name
3. Everyday
4. Lay Your Hands On Me
5. What About Now
6. Superman Tonight
7. Wild Is The Wind
8. Because We Can
9. That's What The Water Made Me
10. We Got It Going On
11. It's My Life
12. Amen
13. The Fighter (Acoustic)
14. Misunderstood (Acoustic) or Mystery Train (Acoustic) or Learn To Love (Acoustic)
15. Just Older
16. What's Left Of Me
17. Army of One
18. Story of My Life
19. Wanted Dead Or Alive
20. Next 100 Years

Encore:
21. Bounce
22. Last Man Standing
23. Have A Nice Day
24. Thank You For Loving Me
25. Keep The Faith

If I go to a concert and they play this, I'd leave pretty happy. Yeah, nothing for my favourite album These Days, but at least is better han having a post-2000 songs setlist but with shitty ones.

Just change Wild Is The Wind to Stick To Your Guns, We Got It Going On to Any Other Day, and Bounce to The Distance... and you have a setlist!

Beaky 02-11-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1105655)
Listen people.

Bon Jovi have 11 studio albums (not inc GH, TLFR and 100M fans) and a 12th on the way.
Roughly that’s 125 (150 if you include WAN) songs to choose from. Let’s say 120 as nothing with maybe the exception of Runaway is going to come from the first two albums (that’s a crime in my eyes!) so you all aren’t gonna be happy.
Im happy with the amount of newer songs cos too many times over the years we have got a GH set list with 1 or 2 songs from the album the tour is promoting.
Everyone knows I love the first 6 albums – especially the first 4 – more than anything but as the years go by those songs will get fewer and fewer.
JBJ has always said he don’t want to be a nostalgia act so I applaud 7 songs from What About Now.
Yes its gutting that we are losing songs from the bands greatest era – (SWW & NJ) but the band have to keep it fresh for themselves as well.
The only complaint I have is too many Lost Highway songs seem to be creeping in when its widely regarded by fans as the bands midlife crisis album.
Id like to hear Any Other Day from that album and that would be enough.

Jovi are changing – Im gutted – but that’s the way it is. Get used to it.

I am used to it but the talking point here isn't OUR comfort level with the 'new Jovi' it's Jon's acceptance that people will sit down if you bore the shit out of them.

He made reference to it in the WWWB doc, about how he can play the deep and meaningful tune ONCE a night... meaning Hallelujah... but he always has to bring it back up again afterwards. Firstly, I'd rather hear him play Blood Money, or Bed of Roses than Hallelujah - I'd be on my feet, swaying, silent and in awe of a well-delivered JOVI song of that ilk but none of the new tunes are up to it. These are not songs for big halls or stadiums; you might disagree, which is fine but Jon has to realise that people will not react to a set like this as the would to a set from even ten years ago.

I think this tour and this album will be the last for some time. The reason being, on The Circle tour he tried to do something different in the first few shows and it fell on it's arse. He had to go back to playing the staple hits. Then he finally released the greatest hits album the record company insisted on and he had to tour it... he has made a conscious effort to go the other way now and once again, it's going to fall on it's arse in the way that people will not jump up and down for these mid-tempo tunes... and the only old songs Jon can still sing are the songs it appears people are bored of hearing.

So the set will change on this tour. He'll go back to playing a few, more recognised hits and he'll hate it with a passion.

They'll be some bollocks at the end of the tour about having closed a chapter in his life, taking a break from the day job 'it's been thirty years' etc. Then he'll write some more 'worthy' stuff, put a backing band together and go out on the road to small theatres because he chooses to be close to people, 'these songs are more intimate' but he'll still have to play Wanted and Prayer.

One day, someone else will make a big, loud, brash rock album and he'll put the band back together to do the same. but they'll be 60 and Tico will be 70 and it'll just be very, very sad.

It'll take a producer who is young and hip to say 'man I love your old stuff' and Jon will go back to it. To draw comparison to the movie world, it's like the Bond series deviating off track for two movies - it was okay but the reason why Skyfall was the biggest Bond film of all time, one of the biggest movies in UK history is simple; they realised that they didn't have to walk away from their history and make 'art'; they just needed to update the formula and do what they do best. Jon needs his Sam Mendes to put him back on track.

I've said it before, I just hope to God he puts a decent set together for Isle of Wight because people will just f*ck off to the Big Top and watch Blondie or, as it's the Sunday, they'll catch the ferry home.

Belzik 02-11-2013 01:18 PM

01. You Give Love a Bad Name
02. Lost Highway -> Wild in the Streets
03. Whole Lot of Leavin' -> Livin' in Sin
04. Because We Can
05. That's What the Water Made Me
06. Wild is the Wind
07. It's My Life
08. What About Now?
09. When We Were Beautiful -> Loves the Only Rule
10. We Got it Going On -> One Wild Night
11. Keep the Faith
12. Amen -> Always
13. The Fighter -> These Days (acoustic)
14. Someday I'll be Saturday Night (acoustic)
15. Army of one
16. We weren't born to follow -> I Believe
17. What's left of me
18. Wanted dead or alive
19. Who says you can;t go home -> The Distance
ADD -> Only Lonely
20. Captain Crash and the beauty queen from Mars
21. Bad Medicine

Encore

22. In these arms
23. Have a nice day
24. I Love this town -> Bed of Roses
25. Livin on a prayer


Set list official fixed. This will touch on nearly all the albums except the ones that have been played to death, and by not doing the "alrights", you can squeeze Only Lonely in there too. Plus, they still play 5 songs from the new album, 11 total from 00's, 7 from the 90's, 8 from the 80's....way more balanced and a show I would like to see.

ezearis 02-11-2013 01:21 PM

Here's the new opening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=_bdGUDPcIW8

MrIks from Finland 02-11-2013 01:29 PM

I can't help myself of doing this too. So using the same amount of songs from each album they played yesterday...and in the same order, here would be my setlist:

1.Let It Rock
2.Lost Highway
3.Any Other Day
4.Because We Can
5.That's What The Water Made Me
6.Stick To Your Guns
7.One Wild Night
8.What About Now
9.Brokenpromiseland
10.One Step Closer
11.Keep The Faith
12.Amen
13.I'm With You
14.Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (acoustic)
15.Army Of One
16.Love's the Only Rule
17.What's Left Of Me
18.I'd Die For You
19.Novocaine
20.Mystery Train
21.Blood On Blood

Encore:
22.In These Arms
23.Have A Nice Day
24.Everybody's Broken
25.Livin' On A Prayer

Encore2:
26.My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms

TheseDaysEra 02-11-2013 01:30 PM

quite like the opening.

steel_horse75 02-11-2013 01:33 PM

Fair points.

I think by the time the show hits the UK the set list will be much more what we are used to seeing.

For the IOW it will be seen and heard by lots of non-Jovi fans – on TV, Gig and radio so the set list will be a greatest Hits set list. All the classics will be out.
They couldn’t come out and do LH songs and maybe even WAN songs as half those people will be like – what the hell is this? And go for a walk.
I reckon at IOW they will open with Prayer, Bad Name, Born To By My Baby, Wild In The Streets etc.
Always will even be played at IOW.

I feel sorry for fans who get to see the early shows cos they are normally all over the place in terms of performance and song choice.
I was gutted and really disappointed by the O2 shows as there was talk of a SWW or NJ night – something really different – they had 12 nights there so why not really do something different – but they didn’t. Yes they changed a few songs but why not do an album night? That was a real shame.

Then at the start of the tour – in Hawaii I think – they played some of the debut and some of 7800 but within about 3 shows they had all been dropped. So gutting. I think the band need to play these songs. They need to find out what made them start all this in the first place.

The gigs these days are aimed at housewives and the casual fan but not the die hard. How cool would it be for them to say “for the next few songs we are heading back to 1983 & 85 and play 2 or 3 from the first two? The diehards want that. They don’t want Capt Crash or Who says.

But JBJ don’t want it so we don’t get it. It all seems to be about the now and that’s fine but don’t forget your past – its those fans who bought those songs who put you where you are today.

ezearis 02-11-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIks from Finland (Post 1105661)
Just change Wild Is The Wind to Stick To Your Guns, We Got It Going On to Any Other Day, and Bounce to The Distance... and you have a setlist!

Yeah! I like those changes! I let WITW as it was played in the two concerts and We Got It Going On as it's been said that the crowd reacts well to it and I didn't wanted to change so much of the setlist. I was about to take out Story to put Any Other Day haha.

MrIks from Finland 02-11-2013 01:40 PM

Weird thing is that even Jon said after playing the whole Lost Highway album in Prudential Centre that people hated it. And still he is playing 4 to 5 songs from the album almost every night... something is clearly not right with that guy, lousy decisions after another.....

StickToYourGuns45 02-11-2013 01:43 PM

Here's Keep the Faith:
I think that ending is amazing!

Quite like the Bad Name opening aswell!


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