Official February 21, 2013, Consol Energy Center, Pittsburgh thread
 

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Predictions, disappointments, reviews and rants about this show go in this topic.

1. You Give Love A Bad Name
2. Lost Highway
3. Whole Lot Of Leaving
4. Thats What The Water Made Me
5. Because We Can
6. It's My Life
7. What About Now
8. When We Were Beautiful
9. We Got It Going On
10. Keep The Faith
11. (You Want To) Make A Memory
12. Amen
13. I'll Be There For You
14. Army Of One
15. We Weren't Born To Follow
16. Superman Tonight
17. Wanted Dead Or Alive
18. Who Says you Can't Go Home
19. Bad Medicine

Encore:
20. Blood On Blood
21. Born To Be My Baby
22. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
23. Have A Nice Day
24. Runaway
25. Livin' On A Prayer

Encore II
26. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead

The last time Bon Jovi played Pittsburgh was on February 12, 2011. The setlist contained 3 surprises; Just Older as an opener, the first performance of The More Things Change and the first and what would turn out only live rendition of This Is Love, This Is Life in the encore.

2 graphs showcasing the order of album and single tracks. A peak indicates the chart position in the Billboard Hot 100, thus a crowd possibly knowing such a song. The more peaks, the more familiar a crowd is with the entire set. In case no peak is noted the song either didn't chart or wasn't released as a single.

The first graph is of this show, the second one is of the previous time Bon Jovi played Pittsburgh:
http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/22_W...h_20130221.jpg http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/20_G...h_20110212.jpg

Songs played per album:
http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/22_W...h_20130221.jpg http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/20_G...h_20110212.jpg

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

It's funny you mention This is Love, This is Life. I was just thinking about how non-die hards don't know this song. They should play it live and people might think it's on the new album and buy it.

Says Richie: "Yo Pittsburg... Hey man I gotta bad cold man but leave everything I got up there for ya..."

It's weird how fast they dropped all the Greatest Hits songs.

Yeah I posted that a few PBPs back. Wouldn't call it weird though, I don't think anyone cared about them.

Poor old Pittsburgh. Hopefully Jon wasn't sleeping too close to Richie.

I'd like to hear The More Things Change, sounded pretty good live. Not like No Apologies or TILTIL.

I'd like for them to NOT play terrible songs. Considering in my book there's only about 40 bad Bon Jovi songs and yet they manage to play almost 20 of them at every gig baffles me.

So true. I believe that Jon's voice is the main issue this band has had, it affected everything.

Yeah, they should kick him out, Richie should take lead vocals and they should bring back Phil X as lead guitar. Then we could call the band Bon Richie or Rich Jovi.

Hello Consol Energy Center!!!

We've waited a long time to play here....

I think today will be slightly altered setlist. About 5 songs will change, I think.

I think today will play Bed Of Roses,Always,Blood On Blood,These Days and I'd Die For You.

This is just my predictions, but agree it would be nice if they played these songs today!

Wishful thinkin, bud.

Always can happen. The rest.. no chance.

See I'd counter with the fact that Richie being incapable of doing anything coherent for a few years created things like the Lost Highway album in the first place, where Jon pretty much was going it alone. It's not just one factor, it's a combination of factors.

Richie's solo tour seems to have got him back in the groove though, and at long last.

Jon currently is having some sort of issues - whether vocally, confidence, sickness, I don't know. I've no doubt they'll work them out.

Sergey has predicted I'd Die For You for pretty much every show so far... If he's persistent enough, it might happen! ;)
I wish they'd mix things up a little, but I doubt it now that Richie has a cold too. I don't know what's up with Jon, whatever it is, I hope it's temporary and things get better. But I doubt it'll happen tonight.

I'm talking about the bigger picture here, Jon has control over everything they do, and Richie being incapable? Have you listened to Richie's new record that came out last year? He's capable, things are the way Jon wants them to be. Anyway, I digress, I'm talking about the band and the songs, the post 2000 ones, the performances, everything. The man himself said that he still had the problem that he wrote the songs in a high key and he couldn't sing them, that leads me to believe the man writes the anthems, he loves the big vocal epic songs, but he can't deliver, that's why when you down-tune an epic anthem it sounds like shit. They never where Radiohead or any other band with brilliant lyrics, yeah they shone here and there but that wasn't their strength.

Anyway, live, as a performer, I imagine you don't wanna strain your voice in each freaking song you play. His fault could be that he isn't choosing the best post 2000 easy-to-sing material.

But if he was confident on his voice or if he didn't give a shit about the vocal delivery, he would sing Santa Fe every night.

I honestly believe he has 0 confidence in his voice anymore. That's why most of the passionate performances we link here each day are on a good-voice day for Jon, he feels confident and he gets in the zone. Examples would be I believe from lisbon, Roses from frankfurt, etc.

I wasn't talking about Richie now or last year, I was talking about Richie and his "Seven Years Gone" which would take us back to 2005'ish depending on when he wrote the tune.

And yes I have Aftermath, and theres some moments of brilliance just like there is on any new Jovi record, and a lot of so-so tracks. It wasn't the epic everyone who had been waiting for a new Richie record for ten years expected or hoped it would be. Worse, for me, some of those songs didn't sound like Richie songs at all, I lost believability with it. At least whatever Bon Jovi make, they sound like Bon Jovi songs.

I'm not saying at all Jon's voice - and also the change in the music he wants to make - isn't a massive factor but it's not the only thing that has affected this band.

You could be spot on with the confidence though. I think he'll get it. It took awhile on The Circle tour too. Maybe he just needs a crowd that aren't bringing their knitting to a show.

Yeah, I wonder. Pick songs that are easier to sing and sound good vocally, or pick songs that are more challenging to sing, but more well loved, and sounds less than good vocally. The two times I've seen Motley Crue live Vince Neil was an absolutely disaster. He started each show decently but he could never go the full 90 minutes. They played all the hits, and everyone in the crowd, at least those around me and those I overheard talking about it had a great time. This past summers tour was with Kiss, and anyone in attendance not affiliated with the Kiss Army seemed to agree that Crue was the far better of the two. Not a single person cared/noticed/mentioned that Vince Neil can't sing. The crowd sang all the songs for them anyways. Would fans, particularly casuals, care if Bon Jovi played more hits but Jon struggled vocally throughout? Jon's voice was pretty well shot on parts of the SWW tour and judging by videos not a single person in attendance seemed to care.

Well I believe that doesn't make richie incapable. Regarding the record, I wasn't expecting much and I got less than what I expected. I still believe it's better than the latest BJ efforts though.

I believe if the still had the voice, even with the direction his music is taking, the songs would be huge, much better than the ones we have.

That's a no-brainer, of course they would be. I like the new songs though, but if they had Jon's 90's voice it would be killer. That's why I wish they hadn't taken any kind of break, had gone straight into the studio after the last tour whilst Jon's voice was warmed up, and cut the record then.

I think 'Work For The Working Man' might return soon.

We only accept predictions that would make us happy if come true.

Are you telling me you don't dig that groove? ;)

Predictions for tonight, Bed of Roses and Radio Saved My Life Tonight

If you want the "Work For A Working Man" groove you'd be better off listening to "Living on A Prayer" and "Undivided".

Oh I dig it. Six foot deep.

I was joking.

But I actually do think this song is more likely to return than the likes of 'I'd Die For You', sadly.

The Lost Highway record has as much Jon as Richie, Jon always talks about how Richie and he started writing songs in an hotel room and how magical was that. Also, I believe that Lost Highway is a great piece of art, might not be rock, but it have feeling and passion and that's something the new tracks are missing.

I'm not buying that. Richie collaborates as much as he wants, if there's few richie on this record is because he didn't give much of a ****. Also, Aftermath isn't the record of the year, yes, it have some good tracks but it's far from being a great record that shows how capable Richie is, I don't think that it's better than The Circle and you guys know what I think of that record.

And yes, I agree with you, Jon doesn't believe in his voice anymore. He should take some singing classes to earn some confidence or do a tour with smaller venues, so he won't be afraid to **** up and can sing rare songs.

lol, are you serious?

Geez, if I never hear that song again, it would be too soon.

eta: Never mind, I read in one of your earlier posts, that you were, of course, joking.

I'd rather see about sixty different songs played instead but that's not how it works, sadly.

As long as we are making song predictions, I predict that we will hear, Dirty Little Secret, Damned, Love Me Back To Life, Diamond Ring, and Bitter Wine.

Hmm...no. I can't see any of them happening, if I am brutally honest.

I predict Born To Be My Baby to be the only change. Bed of Roses and Blood on Blood may be possibe, but I think we will see an almost exact copy of last nights set.

"Say It Isn't So" to return ? :D:cool:

"Two Story Town" anyone ???

In a Crush mood tonight.

If it's a Crush mood, then it's a "Just Older" mood. The one that should be played almost every night off crush and isn't.

How long until the snorefest PBP?

I wish! That is one of my favorites from Crush

I'd be great. The live version on of the Special Edition's Vault sounds amazing!

Two story town, next 100 years, say it isn't so would all be very welcome... Not to mention OWN or Older.