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Supersonic 03-13-2013 09:45 PM

Official March 13, 2013, Scottrade Center, St. Louis thread
 
Aloha !

Predictions, disappointments, reviews and rants about this show go in this topic.


1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot Of Leaving
10. Superman Tonight
11. We Got It Going On
12. Keep the Faith
13. Amen
14. Bed of Roses
15. I'll Be There For You
16. Runaway
17. We Weren't Born to Follow
18. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
19. Wanted Dead Or Alive
20. Who Says You Can't Go Home
21. Bad Medicine ~ Old Time Rock N Roll

Encore:
22. (You Want to) Make a Memory
23. Born To Be My Baby
24. Have a Nice Day
25. Livin' on a Prayer


The last time Bon Jovi played St. Louis was on May 22, 2011. The setlist contained 3 surprises; Last Man Standing opened the show, I'll Sleep When I'm Dead contained Taking Care Of Business, which was picked by Phil X, and Dry County opened the encore. Richie was still out boozing to forget about the dreadful American crowds though it was the last show Phil X would play with the band before Richie returned to the band and kick ass to audiences he did care about.

Now that we've had some entertainment already, let's have a look at the graphs.

A graph showcasing the order of album and single tracks. A peak indicates the chart position in the Billboard Hot 100, thus a crowd possibly knowing such a song. The more peaks, the more familiar a crowd is with the entire set. In case no peak is noted the song either didn't chart or wasn't released as a single.

http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/20_G...h_20110522.jpg

Songs played per album:
http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/20_G...h_20110522.jpg

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Crushgen24/88 03-13-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1115588)

Now that we've had some entertainment already, let's have a look at the graphs.

A graph showcasing the order of album and single tracks. A peak indicates the chart position in the Billboard Hot 100, thus a crowd possibly knowing such a song. The more peaks, the more familiar a crowd is with the entire set. In case no peak is noted the song either didn't chart or wasn't released as a single.

http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/20_G...h_20110522.jpg

Songs played per album:
http://www.bonjovi-archives.com/20_G...h_20110522.jpg

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I mean to say this everyone you start a show thread and I never remember. Your graph concept, while good in theory, is flawed because of the changes that have been made to the billboard chart in the last twenty years ( first from the addition of AirPlay only songs in the late 90's, and later by digital music services.) A casual US Bon Jovi fan is much more likely to be familiar with Misunderstood, Have A Nice Day, Lost Highway, We Weren't Born To Follow, Superman Tonight, What Do You Got, or Because We Can (because of their VH1 exposure and play on radio stations that appeal to the US Bon Jovi demo) than they are TAALS or LIS. And that's not even counting IML, WAYCGH, and MaM, which are obviously more well known though they charted lower.

Supersonic 03-13-2013 10:18 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1115591)
I mean to say this everyone you start a show thread and I never remember. Your graph concept, while good in theory, is flawed because of the changes that have been made to the billboard chart in the last twenty years ( first from the addition of AirPlay only songs in the late 90's, and later by digital music services.) A casual US Bon Jovi fan is much more likely to be familiar with Misunderstood, Have A Nice Day, Lost Highway, We Weren't Born To Follow, Superman Tonight, What Do You Got, or Because We Can (because of their VH1 exposure and play on radio stations that appeal to the US Bon Jovi demo) than they are TAALS or LIS. And that's not even counting IML, WAYCGH, and MaM, which are obviously more well known though they charted lower.

http://drycounty.com/jovitalk/showpo...11&postcount=4

It's a lot less flawed than you're making it out to be, and they indicate the flow of a show quite well. There are a few exceptions here and there such as We Got It Goin' On or Raise Your Hands, but on most occasions it works. And you're overrating the knowledge of the average casual fan. The exposure of a song on Twitter or Facebook won't change a thing in the bigger picture as not many 40+ year olds spend their time on Facebook watching 4 different videos for a lead single that's been tanking for weeks. Down the line it's still the radio that'll dictate if he's ever heard it as Bon Jovi have made it nearly impossible for 15-20 year olds to attend their shows. They've flat out outpriced them.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Walkerboy 03-13-2013 11:58 PM

I think tonight's expectations are summed up by the fact that BJ Twitter account are pointing people towards the app to purchase the album and get 2 free tickets to tonight's gig!!!
Evidently struggled to sell tickets for it then.....

MJB12 03-14-2013 12:10 AM

Predictions for tonight are I'd Die For You, If I Was Your Mother, and Lie to Me. No, seriously.

Oh seriously? Don't have any predictions. Hopefully Hey God isn't out of the cards yet. April 16th is such a long time away...

Becky 03-14-2013 12:33 AM

One of the best Bon Jovi concerts I ever attended was in this venue in 2000. It was an amazing show and Jon started an extra encore of Never Say Goodbye when the band was leaving the stage. I'm not a huge fan of that song, but it WAS great to hear it live since it's such a rarity. That was also the first concert where I heard I'll Be There for You so that was a real highlight for me. I hope tonight's show is as good as that one was. Sure wish I could be there!

KeepTheFaith2211 03-14-2013 12:40 AM

Time to bring 'Blaze Of Glory' back.

bjcrazycpa 03-14-2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkerboy (Post 1115619)
I think tonight's expectations are summed up by the fact that BJ Twitter account are pointing people towards the app to purchase the album and get 2 free tickets to tonight's gig!!!
Evidently struggled to sell tickets for it then.....

Actually I bet the seats left are back of the stage but I'm not 100% as TM isn't selling tickets now as it's too close to the show. I think it's more about moving records vs poor attendance as this location is typically fairly popular for Jovi as they don't do a lot of midwest shows.

Crushgen24/88 03-14-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1115597)
Aloha !



http://drycounty.com/jovitalk/showpo...11&postcount=4

It's a lot less flawed than you're making it out to be, and they indicate the flow of a show quite well. There are a few exceptions here and there such as We Got It Goin' On or Raise Your Hands, but on most occasions it works. And you're overrating the knowledge of the average casual fan. The exposure of a song on Twitter or Facebook won't change a thing in the bigger picture as not many 40+ year olds spend their time on Facebook watching 4 different videos for a lead single that's been tanking for weeks. Down the line it's still the radio that'll dictate if he's ever heard it as Bon Jovi have made it nearly impossible for 15-20 year olds to attend their shows. They've flat out outpriced them.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I wasn't saying it's seriously flawed or anything. Just that going solely by the Billboard charts doesn't give a full picture of what an audience of casual American Bon Jovi fans are going to be familiar with.

ticos_stick 03-14-2013 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 1115635)
Time to bring 'Blaze Of Glory' back.

It's unforgivable that it's not a staple.

Someone make a banner ffs.

Kazyyy12 03-14-2013 01:36 AM

My prediction for tonight is that we hear a new song performed for the first time, hopefully Pictures of You or Beautiful World, and that one dropped WAN song returns so either What's Left of Me or Army of One

The Rock 03-14-2013 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1115650)
It's unforgivable that it's not a staple.

Someone make a banner ffs.

It truly should be a staple in the list but then the whole if Jon is allowed to sing a solo song, why not Richie comes out. So I think, that is why they dropped it.

KeepTheFaith2211 03-14-2013 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1115657)
It truly should be a staple in the list but then the whole if Jon is allowed to sing a solo song, why not Richie comes out. So I think, that is why they dropped it.

An argument which I don't understand, to be honest.

bjcrazycpa 03-14-2013 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 1115659)
An argument which I don't understand, to be honest.

Me either!!

JerseyboyUK 03-14-2013 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1115657)
It truly should be a staple in the list but then the whole if Jon is allowed to sing a solo song, why not Richie comes out. So I think, that is why they dropped it.


I very much agree that 'Blaze Of Glory' should be a staple.

Richie however should never do a solo song at a Jovi show again, on account of them being 90% sub-standard.

And you know he'd probably pick 'Sugar Daddy' anyway.... so be careful what you wish for....

crashed 03-14-2013 02:11 AM

Blaze being my favourite song ever it should be in every set. Whether it was originally a Jon song or not it eclipses anything Richie has ever done, especially in terms of reaching a wide audience.

Becky 03-14-2013 02:25 AM

I was just thinking today that I wish Blaze was back in the set. It should be there, especially in North American shows.

Captmorgs 03-14-2013 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazyyy12 (Post 1115651)
My prediction for tonight is that we hear a new song performed for the first time, hopefully Pictures of You or Beautiful World, and that one dropped WAN song returns so either What's Left of Me or Army of One

Yes, how about What's Left of Me? They played it at the first few shows, and then I heard it sound checked in Nashville. My favorite on the new album.

bounce442 03-14-2013 03:07 AM

Anyone from here there tonight?

Savvi 03-14-2013 03:18 AM

1. You Give Love A Bad Name
2. Raise Your Hands

The Rock 03-14-2013 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 1115659)
An argument which I don't understand, to be honest.

I hear ya and agree. I don't understand but it was said before when they used to sing Blaze. Jon gets his song, why not Richie.

JerseyboyUK 03-14-2013 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1115681)
I hear ya and agree. I don't understand but it was said before when they used to sing Blaze. Jon gets his song, why not Richie.

Because Blaze is ace and Richie's songs are pap. Mystery solved.

Savvi 03-14-2013 03:29 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can

crashed 03-14-2013 03:35 AM

I'm staying up just to see if there' any surprises early in the set. bed in 30 mins.

Savvi 03-14-2013 03:36 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me

crashed 03-14-2013 03:43 AM

Thanks for updating Savvi. My guess is no much will change, though the standard set-list they have now is working far better than the first few shows.

Savvi 03-14-2013 03:47 AM

^ Welcome :)

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psbc213c81.jpg

Savvi 03-14-2013 03:52 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now

MJB12 03-14-2013 03:55 AM

I'm super glad Raise Your Hands has stuck as the 2nd song. It was the boost that the first part of the set needed.

Savvi 03-14-2013 03:57 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot of Leaving

Savvi 03-14-2013 04:02 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot Of Leaving
10. Superman Tonight

jon-flp 03-14-2013 04:06 AM

It could be better....

efpg0708 03-14-2013 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon-flp (Post 1115694)
It could be better....

It could be a LOT better ...

Savvi 03-14-2013 04:10 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot Of Leaving
10. Superman Tonight
11. We Got It Going On
12. Keep the Faith

mike1990 03-14-2013 04:14 AM

I'd take this so far set. Although, I could go the rest of my life not hearing Whole lot of Leaving and We Got it going on and be 100% okay with that.

Savvi 03-14-2013 04:20 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot Of Leaving
10. Superman Tonight
11. We Got It Going On
12. Keep the Faith
13. Amen

Savvi 03-14-2013 04:26 AM

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot Of Leaving
10. Superman Tonight
11. We Got It Going On
12. Keep the Faith
13. Amen
14. Bed of Roses

Savvi 03-14-2013 04:38 AM

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...ps74b3a37c.jpg

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot Of Leaving
10. Superman Tonight
11. We Got It Going On
12. Keep the Faith
13. Amen
14. Bed of Roses
15. I'll Be There For You
16. Runaway
17. We Weren't Born to Follow
18. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
19. Wanted Dead Or Alive

efpg0708 03-14-2013 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1115702)
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...ps74b3a37c.jpg

1. You Give Love A Band Name
2. Raise Your Hands
3. Lost Highway
4. Because We Can
5. That's What The Water Made Me
6. It's My Life
7. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
8. What About Now
9. Whole Lot Of Leaving
10. Superman Tonight
11. We Got It Going On
12. Keep the Faith
13. Amen
14. Bed of Roses
15. I'll Be There For You
16. Runaway
17. We Weren't Born to Follow
18. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
19. Wanted Dead Or Alive

So the main set will have 21 songs ... That's a big main set !

superkid 03-14-2013 05:05 AM

I 'd like to see more than 4 new songs in the set, considering LH still gets 4-5. Outside of that these setlists have really improved in general. Hopefully Dry County pops up soon.


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