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ezearis 04-07-2013 07:53 AM

Phil X dislike(d) Bon Jovi?
 
A friend of mine told me on Twitter that Phil X used to used to laugh and make fun of Bon Jovi before he played with them on the Live 2011 Tour. He also told me that in several guitar forums they where shocked to see that Phil would play with the band because of this.

On this video he showed me, Phil says at the beginning "It was played by Richie Sambora... you know how I feel about that, but we won't get into it", among other things.

Does anyone have an interview where he talks bad about Bon Jovi? Or Richie? Or what's the story about this? I just can't understand why somebody would make fun of a band and then would play for them.

Johny 04-07-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1120427)
On this video he showed me, Phil says at the beginning "It was played by Richie Sambora... you know how I feel about that, but we won't get into it", among other things.

I think he hates the guitars being signed. However I remember us discussing his lack of love for the band two years ago.

RS8MB0R8 04-07-2013 12:27 PM

When he says, "you know how I feel about that," I always associated it with where he'd signed the guitar - on the body in full view. I don't think he has anything personal against Richie.

With regards to his opinions on Bon Jovi, however, I think there were some links or quotes thrown around that back up the idea that he thinks they're pish.

bonjovi821 04-07-2013 12:27 PM

Yeah, it's definitely that he hates guitars being signed.

Regardless of his opinions of the band, I'm sure he's not hating the paycheck.

Rumen 04-07-2013 12:32 PM

Gibson 2002 Flying V PART 2 00745

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nC6wDeC_tPE

The video's set to private, but in that second part of the video Phil kept referring to the guitar once belonging to Richie SamBORING!

ezearis 04-07-2013 12:41 PM

Thank you all for your answers, didn't knew he hated the guitars being signed. Interesting fact and explains a lot.

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Originally Posted by Rumen (Post 1120464)
Gibson 2002 Flying V PART 2 00745

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nC6wDeC_tPE

The video's set to private, but in that second part of the video Phil kept referring to the guitar once belonging to Richie SamBORING!

That's one of the things my friend said, he might have setted it into private after he joined Bon Jovi.

Walleris 04-07-2013 12:42 PM

If he's a metal-head, it makes sense for him to hate Bon Jovi, it's the cool thing to do. But I'm sure he loves money more, considering he has played with Avril Lavigne and Kelly Clarkson, according to Wiki.

That video is really entertaining though, would love to see part 2.

CKatz 04-07-2013 02:37 PM

What a sell-out... But he fits well with Jon..They both care about the $$$.

Living_on_my_Hair 04-07-2013 02:46 PM

I'm sure he enjoys playing the classics, and you can certainly see that from the videos when he gets to shred and let loose a bit on the earlier stuff (LYHOM, KTF, BAd Mx etc)

However, I'm pretty sure that someone with his shredding capabilities and hard rock background that standing there strumming chords to something like 'Because We Can' or 'What about now' he must be quietly thinking ''WTF is this shit??'', as it's a world away from what he must listen to.
But he's there to do a job, and pick up the paycheck. I've worked in jobs before that I have no interest or passion for the product whatsoever, but as I have experience in that field and am getting paid, I tend to shut up and just do the job.

I like Phil X, and like the way he has conducted himself on his stints with Bon Jovi. Even if a lot of the newer Jovi stuff is a world away from what he usually plays and so is actually beneath him, I like to think that it is general love of playing live music and jamming in general (along with the huge paycheck of course) that he loves.


Andi

Captain_jovi 04-07-2013 05:01 PM

He's not a metalhead. He's played a lot of hard rock. If you watch his Fretted Americana videos it's a pretty varied selection.

Whoever said any video where he mentions the band in a negative light was switched to private in 2011 was dead on. I always got the impression the band wasn't his cup of tea. I know he mentioned the phrase "Don't bore us, get to the chorus" when talking about the band. Kind of funny, I wish they had longer verses.

NicoRourke 04-07-2013 05:14 PM

Then why is he there playing with the band? Can't the get someone else?

Insulting Richie, not liking the music - yet he is onstage and collecting the money. Sounds more like a big mouth to me.

Living_on_my_Hair 04-07-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoRourke (Post 1120532)
Then why is he there playing with the band? Can't the get someone else?

Insulting Richie, not liking the music - yet he is onstage and collecting the money. Sounds more like a big mouth to me.

We insult Jon, Richie, the bands music, setlists etc all the time on here as 'fans'. We have our own opinions on a lot of Bon Jovi stuff aswell, but I am sure if any one of us (if we were suitably qualified) got ''the phone call'' from Jon we would do it in a heartbeat. It's a great, well paid gig in front of tens of thousands of people every night. Even Supersonic would do it (lol imagine)

The man can have his own opinion, he is not a band member and part of Jon's ''vision'' - he is a hired session player to cover guitar parts, which is exactly what he is doing. He is saving their asses at the moment, and for that I am grateful.

I'd jam as a session player for nearly anybody if asked.

And Phil obviously likes some of the classic stuff, you can see he enjoys it.

Phil X ‏@TheRealPhilX 21h
had a great time in Winnipeg last night. the crowd was INSANE! anyone have footage of Keep The Faith? it had some special moments for me.

I don't see the problem, it's not like he's slagging the band off now whilst he is with them. He's a professional.


Andi

Captain_jovi 04-07-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoRourke (Post 1120532)
Then why is he there playing with the band? Can't the get someone else?

Insulting Richie, not liking the music - yet he is onstage and collecting the money. Sounds more like a big mouth to me.

It's a job and he's good at what he does. Regardless of people's opinions of him here he's in demand. How is he a big mouth? He's made hundreds of videos on youtube reviewing guitars and let some of his personal opinions slip about, at that time, a band he simply didn't listen to. He didn't put out a press release or anything.

Serpephone 04-08-2013 05:31 AM

It's my understanding Phil X & Jon have run in the same music circles for many years--they go waaaay back. Phil X & Jon are real cool with each other--he's not commented a lot on Richie. Phil will competently and professionally play anything--he's well-known & highly regarded in the LA music scene. Personally, I think he's a great dude, very kind & fun-loving. Being an almost lifelong Bon Jovi fan, I'm more than happy to throw all my support Phil's way during his second stretch with the band...

Captain_jovi 04-08-2013 07:46 AM

He was in Aldo Nova's touring band for "Blood on the Bricks" that Jon produced so you know it goes back awhile. For anyone who doesn't remember Phil spilled the beans a bit and did session work on "What do ya got?".

semigoodlookin 04-08-2013 04:05 PM

Jon hates half the songs himself, so how could he blame an outsider for not liking them. Didn't Jon say more than once that his music is not even his own wife's cup of tea?

Personally if it was me and I would not have him around if he had said those things. However, it does not seem to bother Jon or he simply does not know he has said them. Either way it is no problem for me if he is around and doesn't like the music that much.

DevilsSon 04-08-2013 04:25 PM

nobody hates Bon Jovi as in HATES them (other than that obsessed guy who was posting here). Let's face it, a band that has written Wanted Dead or Alive will inspire some form of admiration from any musician, from anyone who has ever picked up a guitar. Even Lars Ulrich ended up saying that it's one of the greatest road songs ever written.

At the same time, it's IMPOSSIBLE to not be cynical about Bon Jovi. Just listen to all the junk that they have written over the years, especially in more recent years. And again, anyone with a musical talent of some sort will call Because We Can and that sort 'JUNK'.

Phil X is no different. I'm sure he loves the classics - the fact that Jon let him sing the second verse of Wanted last time around is proof enough. He wanted to be part of it. And when you see him jam on Faith or on Lay Your Hands On Me - he looks on fire. There's no way a hard rock guitar player doesn't enjoy jamming on those. Impossible. So, in other words, Phil X is just a man with an objective opinion, and the attitude and body language of a 17 year old kid who is just about to start his first rock band. I really really dig him and whichever way Jon picked him, respect!

Having said that, the DRILLS suck balls and he can't sing for his life. But hell, he's a great guitar player.

ezearis 04-09-2013 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 1120832)
nobody hates Bon Jovi as in HATES them (other than that obsessed guy who was posting here). Let's face it, a band that has written Wanted Dead or Alive will inspire some form of admiration from any musician, from anyone who has ever picked up a guitar. Even Lars Ulrich ended up saying that it's one of the greatest road songs ever written.

Why do always people talk of Wanted as "THE Bon Jovi song". I think they have better songs by far, or more popular ones.

Panda 04-09-2013 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1120972)
Why do always people talk of Wanted as "THE Bon Jovi song". I think they have better songs by far, or more popular ones.

It's because it IS THE Bon Jovi song. One of the best and most widely known songs they have ever made. To dispute that is almost ignorance.

angelsambo 04-09-2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1120740)
He was in Aldo Nova's touring band for "Blood on the Bricks" that Jon produced so you know it goes back awhile.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...e=3&permPage=1

ezearis 04-09-2013 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1120973)
It's because it IS THE Bon Jovi song. One of the best and most widely known songs they have ever made. To dispute that is almost ignorance.

Well, I think that songs like Dry County or These Days are 1000 times better than Wanted, and in widely known songs, if I take 3 random people of the streets and tell them Bon Jovi, they're going to say "It's My Life".

I like Wanted, it's one of their best songs, I just never got all the hype about it.

LeaJovi 04-09-2013 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1120984)
Well, I think that songs like Dry County or These Days are 1000 times better than Wanted, and in widely known songs, if I take 3 random people of the streets and tell them Bon Jovi, they're going to say "It's My Life".

I like Wanted, it's one of their best songs, I just never got all the hype about it.

Wanted was THE BJ song that every other band could relate to. DC and TD are almost unknown compared to the slippery hits and IML is what young people that don't listen to BJ know.

LeaJovi 04-09-2013 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 1120832)
Having said that, the DRILLS suck balls and he can't sing for his life. But hell, he's a great guitar player.

If Phil X is the singer there, I think he sings awesome.

Panda 04-09-2013 05:50 AM

Guys. Guys. Phil X is obviously the devil and hates bon jovi.


End of story.

Captain_jovi 04-09-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1120975)

Holy shit, great find!!

Crushgen24/88 04-09-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1120973)
It's because it IS THE Bon Jovi song. One of the best and most widely known songs they have ever made. To dispute that is almost ignorance.

Prayer is THE Bon Jovi song.

TheOriginalJez 04-09-2013 08:35 AM

those comments are just his sense of humour... he has a big mouth and tries to be funny - given that the majority of people you see at drills gigs are stuck up guitarists who worship steve vai (note: got nothing against vai, just stuck up guitarists) that sort of thing is gonna go down well...

I also think he's a better singer than he is a guitarist... he's great at playing stuff other people have written but his own solos tend to be a bit 'hey look what I can do while adding literally nothing worthwhile to this song' - he's written some cool riffs though.

Panda 04-09-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1121043)
Prayer is THE Bon Jovi song.

I suppose we'll agree to disagree then. Wanted is a classic and is Bon Jovi's anthem.

rickysambo 04-09-2013 09:14 AM

I watched Phil X doing the dry county solo live.I was embarassed for him.

Crushgen24/88 04-09-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1121049)
I suppose we'll agree to disagree then. Wanted is a classic and is Bon Jovi's anthem.

Just to clarify, I don't deny that Wanted is a classic and it's a great song. But I think if one had to say the definitive Bon Jovi song, the one that will lead the obituary (despite what Jon thinks/says/wants) and is there magnum opus as far as overall popular culture it's Prayer.

rickysambo 04-09-2013 09:24 AM

I watched Phil X doing the dry county solo live.I was embarassed for him.

Panda 04-09-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rickysambo (Post 1121057)
I watched Phil X doing the dry county solo live.I was embarassed for him.

YEAH RICHIE IS THE ONLY ONE.

ezearis 04-09-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rickysambo (Post 1121053)
I watched Phil X doing the dry county solo live.I was embarassed for him.

We got it the first time.

DevilsSon 04-09-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rickysambo (Post 1121057)
I watched Phil X doing the dry county solo live.I was embarassed for him.

Yeah - agree with you. Phil X is great. Love watching the bastard and he plays like a crazy man which I really enjoy. Also, I'd give a lot to see a Jovi show made up of the 80s albums only and see him shred the hell out of those solos. But as soon as we're stepping into the 90s...the man lacks some of the feel and sensibility. Dry County is the perfect example where feel and technical capabilities are perfectly balanced. And that's why Richie is a guitar hero and Phil X is just an EXTRAORDINARILY good session musician.

DestinationJovi 04-10-2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1121054)
Just to clarify, I don't deny that Wanted is a classic and it's a great song. But I think if one had to say the definitive Bon Jovi song, the one that will lead the obituary (despite what Jon thinks/says/wants) and is there magnum opus as far as overall popular culture it's Prayer.

I actually remember an interview with Jon (maybe fan-asked questions?) and he was asked exactly that - what one song would be on his tombstone. His answer was Prayer.

Living_on_my_Hair 04-26-2013 04:09 PM

Just noticed on http://www.philx.tv/discography.html, Phil calls ''Living on a prayer'' one of the greatest songs ever written, and he says how ''killer'' it was to be in Jons house jamming with him and Tico etc. Plus all his tweets sound like he's having a great time.
The guys a fan, but obviously like a lot of us here..probably isn't too crazy about the newer stuff. But then again, he's jammed for a lot pop artists too, so who knows, he might love BWC for all we know.


Andi

rolo_tomachi 04-27-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1120427)
A friend of mine told me on Twitter that Phil X used to used to laugh and make fun of Bon Jovi before he played with them on the Live 2011 Tour. He also told me that in several guitar forums they where shocked to see that Phil would play with the band because of this.

On this video he showed me, Phil says at the beginning "It was played by Richie Sambora... you know how I feel about that, but we won't get into it", among other things.

Does anyone have an interview where he talks bad about Bon Jovi? Or Richie? Or what's the story about this? I just can't understand why somebody would make fun of a band and then would play for them.


very easy, $$$$$

Living_on_my_Hair 04-27-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1125080)
very easy, $$$$$

Once again, another insightful post from yourself. Yes, of course money is a factor, but as stated before Phil is a fan of the music, at least the older stuff. And who wouldn't want to play to arenas full of people?


Andi

rolo_tomachi 04-27-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair (Post 1125081)
Once again, another insightful post from yourself. Yes, of course money is a factor, but as stated before Phil is a fan of the music, at least the older stuff. And who wouldn't want to play to arenas full of people?


Andi

And?

Phil X no feeling, no soul, Bon Jovi need Sambora, you know it.

bchris964 04-30-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1120468)
If he's a metal-head, it makes sense for him to hate Bon Jovi, it's the cool thing to do. But I'm sure he loves money more, considering he has played with Avril Lavigne and Kelly Clarkson, according to Wiki.

That video is really entertaining though, would love to see part 2.

hi guy,
you say right.His attitude toward their responsibility shows such like of behavior of Bon jovi.Money is not every thing but something,we must take first of our loyalty to our duty then money prefer.Most of songs are very good but the need is to purify.


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