Originally Posted by crashed (Post 1155362)

Any night out to me is better than a night in with the TV. I can go and enjoy a night with local bands who are nowhere near the level of Bon Jovi, so it's nonsensical that I wouldn't enjoy a night with a band who, whilst currently nowhere near at their best - and I would never disagree with that - are still pretty ****ing good.

And this whole setlist argument - the songs their playing are the songs I fell in love with. I don't get tired listening to them on a record, so why I'd get tired listening them to the few times I get to hear them live every couple of years - also makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1155375)

Aloha !



I wasn't the one who started the "Yeah but for some it seems like they like the dentist more" thing. You've repeated that thing several times, albeit in different words, and I don't think I've replied to you like the way I did just now simply because I felt it wasn't worth the hassle.

Your words are making it sound like those that are critical of the band shouldn't be posting here simply because you, apparantly, don't see auto pilot or hear the off key kind of things others do. Which is fine, like I said. If you don't, you'll probably have a blast. You're not the only one, they're still selling 15.000-35.000 tickets on a nightly basis, and yes, most can't tell a good show from a bad show either. It's why Bon Jovi, and in fact plenty of other acts, still sell a lot of tickets.

However though, I do hear and see it. It's what made me sell most of my tickets and cancel almost all my plans for this tour. Your comment in regards to the dentist is what makes me respond, because I feel like defending my point of view. You don't seem to understand how someone could not enjoy any Bon Jovi show, whereas I don't understand how anyone could still enjoy any (American) Bon Jovi show. I offer my point of view, you offer bitching about my point of view as opposed to counter points. Yeah, that puts us back in high school.

I don't think I've ever really bitched about you personally, because you do seem to enjoy the shows, and it is what it is really. I don't get it, I'll never get it, but it's fine by me. Once you start ridiculing me indirectly for not liking the same things you do, you're kind of on thin ice, that's pretty much how Jovitalk has always worked, or any message board really. But judging from what most people on Jovitalk are saying owadays, and the impopularity in regards to the PBP's nowadays I no longer seem to be the only one here. Which is much to my surprise, really, because that's never been how Jovitalk has worked.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Originally Posted by crashed (Post 1155381)

No personal bitching at all, Seb. But saying "I" hear these things and "you can't" comes across as very condescending when I can hear exactly the same things you do, so that pushed my buttons the wrong way. I don't understand how someone can just stand at a show and not sing, dance, but I've seen people do it. Maybe that's where the difference is.

But I stand by what I've said and you're right I've said it a few times. But when it becomes wrong to like Bon Jovi on a Jovi board, then maybe it's time I left, not you.

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1155375)

But judging from what most people on Jovitalk are saying owadays, and the impopularity in regards to the PBP's nowadays I no longer seem to be the only one here. Which is much to my surprise, really, because that's never been how Jovitalk has worked.

Originally Posted by Sissy3 (Post 1155406)

For anyone who may care this is what's posted on Backstage so far. Apparently some of them are getting texts from friends at the show. I removed multiple exclamation points and all caps. The op was a little excited. LOL :D

1. Lost Highway
2. That's What The Water Made Me
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. Radio Saved My Life
6. Superman Tonight
7. It's My Life
8. Because We Can
9. What About Now
10. Captain Crash
11. Keep The Faith
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On the circle:

12. Bed of Roses
13. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
14. Thick As Thieves
15. (You Want To) Make A Memory

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16. Army of One
17. We Weren' t Born To Follow
18. Who Says You Can't Go Home
19. Bad Medicine w/Pretty Woman
20. Sleep when I'm dead

Encore:
21. Wanted Dead Or Alive
22. Livin' On A Prayer


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