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Rdkopper 02-12-2014 05:16 AM

Another vocal exercise
 
Someone posted a bunch of videos on YouTube showcasing Jon's vocals by removing the instruments. I've seen a bunch of these done before in the past but not from the most recent albums. I just listed to two songs, one from 1986 and one from 2009 just to compare the studio differences. To be honest, they actually matched up pretty well. You could definitely hear some auto-tune in the '09 chorus but I was actually surprised. It's not the world of difference that I was expecting.

Take a listen for yourself... curious to get other opinions.

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We Weren't Born To Follow:

Never Say Goodbye:

Lampinen 02-12-2014 06:00 AM

NSG has beautiful, warm harmonizing between Jon and Richie. Born to follow has robot Jon and robot Richie exchanging binary codes in the form of vocal melodies. It sounds so disgusting it makes me want to stick a fork in my ear.

NSG is vocally much more demanding than Born to, but Jon could still muster up a nice, passionate rasp back in '09. Though it's cluttered in echo, unlike the NSG vocal.

Rdkopper 02-12-2014 06:28 AM

Thanks Lampinen. That was the exact type of response i was looking for. I really don't have an ear for these things and I need someone to break it down for me.

Yes, I think the rasps are making me hear the similarities.

Is there a robotic thing going on during the verses too on '09?

I need to hear a vocal from '02, before Shanks to really compare.

Captain_jovi 02-12-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1162136)
Thanks Lampinen. That was the exact type of response i was looking for. I really don't have an ear for these things and I need someone to break it down for me.

Yes, I think the rasps are making me hear the similarities.

Is there a robotic thing going on during the verses too on '09?

I need to hear a vocal from '02, before Shanks to really compare.

There are multi tracks from both Bounce and This Left Feels Right. The isolated vocals sound far less processed than since Shanks got involved.

Javier 02-12-2014 09:45 AM

I can sense in the future albums the vocals will be even MORE overproduced and compressed if this is what the producers and engineers have to work with:


Butters 02-12-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1162168)
I can sense in the future albums the vocals will be even MORE overproduced and compressed if this is what the producers and engineers have to work with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDCcC4RYRdE

I can't help but laugh at how tragically bad this is.

Iceman 02-12-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1162168)
I can sense in the future albums the vocals will be even MORE overproduced and compressed if this is what the producers and engineers have to work with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDCcC4RYRdE


That sounds so horrible that I just have to laugh.

The greatest difference between the two examples is the breathing. On NSG Jon seems to effortlessly singing the phrases and high notes without any trouble, but WWBTF is a patch job of about million different takes and he still sounds out of breath. Not to mention the range...

Ice

Alphavictim 02-12-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1162217)
The greatest difference between the two examples is the breathing. On NSG Jon seems to effortlessly singing the phrases and high notes without any trouble, but WWBTF is a patch job of about million different takes and he still sounds out of breath.

How does a singer forget how to breathe properly? It's not like he is out of shape, and he's constantly touring, so he should be in "touring mode" constantly. What gives?

Captain_jovi 02-12-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1162232)
How does a singer forget how to breathe properly? It's not like he is out of shape, and he's constantly touring, so he should be in "touring mode" constantly. What gives?

Agreed. And if the story is true and WWBTF was the last song recorded for The Circle, he shouldn't sound like he hasn't sung in months.

semigoodlookin 02-12-2014 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1162168)
I can sense in the future albums the vocals will be even MORE overproduced and compressed if this is what the producers and engineers have to work with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDCcC4RYRdE

Like others, I laughed.

That is awful, and it comes from one of the worlds greatest ever front men. Itīs indefensible in my opinion.


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