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JackieBlue 12-03-2017 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1231006)
About the new song:

Richie Sambora & Orianthi - 'One Night of Peace', Boxing, Alice Cooper - Jim Norton & Sam Roberts - YouTube

Richie talks about the new song and even about Kon Chauvi, it's actually a good interview for once.

This IS a good interview, GabrielC. Thanks for posting. Richie comes across much more at ease in this one. Still funny, but his jokes aren't nearly as slap-stick and, idk, pervasive, ill-timed... whatever, as they were in The Cutting Room video.

Lots of quite interesting comments...

nikos greece 12-03-2017 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1231050)
This IS a good interview, GabrielC. Thanks for posting. Richie comes across much more at ease in this one. Still funny, but his jokes aren't nearly as slap-stick and, idk, pervasive, ill-timed... whatever, as they were in The Cutting Room video.

Lots of quite interesting comments...

really great interview...its been a long long time since i ve seen richie so sincere and down to earth. i noticed he described his furstration of the music business twice...the second ep maybe do a little better than the first one which seems like very few noticed

Raz0r 12-03-2017 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1231049)
"I'm the Baby Whisperer" *snort* Too funny!



Cute interview. Thanks for posting.



Lol, yeah, that was cute. Much better interview here.


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DestinationJovi 12-03-2017 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1231028)
Not everyone works the same Becky. People deal with things differently, I have seen so many different instances of how people deal with this, you can't just blanket it say and that it works like that all the time for everyone. In fact, when treating something like this that is one of the worst things you can do.

Richie's problems seemed to start from dealing with the pain of his father passing away and his marriage break up. You deal with that....what is making the drinking become a problem and how to deal with it, rather than the drinking itself, then you are winning the battle.

A lot of people that go into rehab can absolutely drink afterwards without going overboard, if they deal with the reasons why they were drinking so heavily in the first place. Whether it's the loss of someone, the break up of a relationship, or just the fact they don't want to (or are unable to) deal with something in their lives...

If you are just addicted to the drink that's different altogether...but that simply isn't the case for everyone.

But that is exactly the case for Richie. He is an addict.

Richie may have initially started drinking too much as a way to cope with what he was going through, but his problem drinking eventually became a full blown alcohol addiction, on top of his pain pill addiction. He has been in rehab three times (that we know of) because addicts like Richie are incapable of drinking in moderation. Alcohol dependence changes the physiology of the brain, and an addicted brain simply can't and won't stop after just one or two drinks. Richie himself even said a couple of years ago that it is a constant struggle to stay sober, though it is clear he hasn't been sober for some time now.

Abstinence is the only solution for Richie. Three failed stints in rehab prove that.

Thinny 12-03-2017 11:56 AM

Richie was drinking for years before the death of his father and the break up of his marriage, and he was a perfectly fine, functioning human being. Those things happened and it seems to turned to Alcohol in extreme quantities to cope. That is using drink as a coping mechanism, not as an addiction.

The problem with a lot of rehabs is that they go for the quick fix, and don't treat the problem, so they get cleaned up let them out, but don't deal with the reason WHY they were drinking in the first place, so it happens again. I have a friend that used to work with musicians in LA that were struggling with drink and drug abuse, and she says that this happened all the time...

As I said, it's very dangerous to presume that people are drinking simply because they are addicts...

YOVANAfromPeru 12-03-2017 07:52 PM

I always like more live
One Night Of Peace (live): https://youtu.be/k4zSaYxHPQE

Becky 12-03-2017 08:06 PM

Thinny, using your reasoning, what if you were addicted and been to rehab for another substance abuse? How much meth, heroine, or cocaine would be appropriate for someone to be a functioning addict without placing themself in danger by playing with the substance that could have destroyed them?

JackieBlue 12-03-2017 10:12 PM

You all make valid points. Yes, Richie is an addict and always will be. But he does seem to have a better handle on it than he did in 2014, if that is indeed what caused the erratic performances back then. Yes, he has publicly stated that he drinks socially. Is it a good idea for him to do that? Probably not, imo; but that's his call, not mine. Does that necessarily prove that he didn't mean what he said during Aftermath promos? I don't think so. A lot has happened since then, and people often fall back onto old coping mechanisms; but it doesn't mean that he wasn't being genuine when he said it.

I don't know why it is that every time something positive is posted on this thread, the discussion has to immediately turn negative: poor ticket sales, the delay in releasing music, comments Richie made 10 or 15 years ago about plans to release solo work, or when all else fails, the ever-convenient "Richie's addiction".

I guess that's not quite true. I know why, but I still don't get it.

People have whined for 4 years about when new music is going to be released. But now that it's happening, all people care about discussing is Richie's drinking? Seriously?

JackieBlue 12-03-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1231068)
I always like more live
One Night Of Peace (live): https://youtu.be/k4zSaYxHPQE

Thanks for posting this, Yovanna. It's a beautiful song and, from this and some of the other videos from the show, it seems to have been a great success.

Thinny 12-04-2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1231069)
Thinny, using your reasoning, what if you were addicted and been to rehab for another substance abuse? How much meth, heroine, or cocaine would be appropriate for someone to be a functioning addict without placing themself in danger by playing with the substance that could have destroyed them?


If you don't, or choose not to, understand what I've been saying then i can't help you any further. You clearly believe their is only one version of how this all works, but you are wrong. You can't dismiss using alcohol as a dependency rather than an addition, they are not the same.


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