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Becky 02-02-2018 08:00 PM

The level of moderation is very much a decision of the administrator/owner. We have to tread lightly and do our best.

I helped moderate another board that was far more restrictive. There wasn’t a lot of derailing, but there wasn’t the level of freedom of expression people have here either. On that board, only a moderator could even start a new thread.

Sometimes you have to consider the options and find the positive.

Thinny 02-02-2018 08:01 PM

Fair enough, That does sound like it goes waay too far the other way. It's difficult to find the balance that works for everyone. Nay, it's impossible...

Supersonic 02-02-2018 08:10 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1233907)
Fair enough, That does sound like it goes waay too far the other way. It's difficult to find the balance that works for everyone. Nay, it's impossible...

Don't get this the wrong way, but I'm just wondering. If you visit the pub do you tell the owner to change his policy as well because you don't like the way the regular visitors behave themselves?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Jeeper 02-02-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1233876)
By most people yes, I would agree he is praised and criticised when appropriate, however, If you don't think that there are people here that are completely anti-Richie then you haven't been paying attention...



Of course there are anti-Richie posters. Just as there are anti-Jon critics. I just don’t see any vendetta against either if the criticism levelled is justified.

Jon = Shot voice. Moves like a pensioner. Money orientated.

Richie = Sloppy. Unreliable. Lacks clear direction.

Fair?

As for the whole dragging up why he left argument, it’s unfortunately the nature of the beast. It baffles a lot of people why he’s not grabbed this opportunity of being a frontman with both hands. At best it’s been hit and miss. That’s why people still post “he ditched Bon Jovi FOR THIS!?”

Had he proved people wrong and actually delivered what he is capable of, there would be less focus on the hows and why’s and more appreciation of what was actually being offered up.


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Thinny 02-02-2018 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1233908)
Aloha !



Don't get this the wrong way, but I'm just wondering. If you visit the pub do you tell the owner to change his policy as well because you don't like the way the regular visitors behave themselves?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Don't be an ass. Regular visitors? Where have you been for the last few months or more? I've been here...

I'm not saying anyone should change any policies. Just that it's not how I would do it, and I've managed my fair share of band related forums, back when they were still relevant. A forum that just ends up in constant bickering get old real quick...

Thinny 02-02-2018 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1233915)
As for the whole dragging up why he left argument, it’s unfortunately the nature of the beast. It baffles a lot of people why he’s not grabbed this opportunity of being a frontman with both hands. At best it’s been hit and miss. That’s why people still post “he ditched Bon Jovi FOR THIS!?”

I disagree, if it was new people bringing new thoughts to the discussion then sure. But it's not, it's the same people making the same comments like this every single time, provoking the same discussions. I guarantee that the majority of these people bringing up the argument don't even bother to watch the links posted here or attempt any sensible discussion about RSO. They just use any excuse to have a go and dissuade people from talking about the actual music, especially if something positive has been posted...god forbid...

I'm just worn out on all the constant negativity I guess, be it Richie, Jon's voice, whatever. It is what it is....

Jeeper 02-03-2018 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1233920)
I disagree, if it was new people bringing new thoughts to the discussion then sure. But it's not, it's the same people making the same comments like this every single time, provoking the same discussions. I guarantee that the majority of these people bringing up the argument don't even bother to watch the links posted here or attempt any sensible discussion about RSO. They just use any excuse to have a go and dissuade people from talking about the actual music, especially if something positive has been posted...god forbid...

I'm just worn out on all the constant negativity I guess, be it Richie, Jon's voice, whatever. It is what it is....



I think people focus on the obvious which unfortunately is Jon’s voice, Richie’s behaviour etc because there’s nothing really exciting to get their teeth into anymore. RSO IS underwhelming whichever way you dress it up (not you, people) and Jon IS mostly butchering songs.

If I were to watch a RSO video and Richie was on fire, and the set wasn’t half filled with covers, I’d be just as likely to post something praising it as I would critiquing something shit.

I do get that for those who enjoy RSO, it’s irritating. Same for those who still think Jon sounds great and read scathing posts. It’ll never change on a public message board.


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Becky 02-03-2018 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1233920)
I'm just worn out on all the constant negativity I guess, be it Richie, Jon's voice, whatever. It is what it is....

This has been the most negative fan board I have ever participated in for the last 20 years. That is and always has been the atmosphere here.

But, you know what? This is the only fan board I still use. It’s home.

Thinny 02-03-2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1233924)
If I were to watch a RSO video and Richie was on fire, and the set wasn’t half filled with covers, I’d be just as likely to post something praising it as I would critiquing something shit.

I have no doubt that you would Jeeper, but unfortunately I don't think that applied to all those that post here. If Richie was on fire you would still get the same people here ignoring the footage and just bringing up how he was such an ass for leaving BJ the way he did. Like I said, I honestly don't believe that the majority of people that post that stuff even bother to watch the videos. They just have an internal hate for Richie since he left the band that hey cannot get over...

Thinny 02-03-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1233927)
This has been the most negative fan board I have ever participated in for the last 20 years. That is and always has been the atmosphere here.

But, you know what? This is the only fan board I still use. It’s home.

Well, it's the only place I keep coming back to too. Even though my other half and friends keep telling me off for "arguing with Bon Jovi fans again!" :mrgreen::rolleyes:


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