for me as well richies songs stand out...oris voice isnt blending well with richies soulfull vocal deliveries...forever on the outside is an exception tough...i really like that tune...
listened 3-4 times the last couple songs... i have to say bob rock should produce richie a bit better...there are many songs in there with a couple twistes some better lines some more focused musical direction would made the songs better imo.
forever all the way is a country ballad with a really sweet chorus, maybe the top 3 of the songs released til now imo. i hope the next rso shows are heavy on new material

Rolo, I think it may be that you're a little sensitive to Ori’s voice; because I have to disagree with your breakdown, particularly on the duets. I went back and listened; and this is what I hear:


Richie - 4 solos (to Ori’s 1 solo):
One Night of Peace No Ori on backup unless she’s very low in the mix

I Don’t Want to Have to Need You Now – Richie and Ori on harmony; in this one she’s more on the same mix level as RS is in TOTO

Take Me – All Richie (except the one time she sang harmony live and I hope that’s the one and only time!)

Forever All the Way – Ori on harmony (v. soft)



Ori - 1 solo:
Together on the Outside: RS on harmonies and more like his BJ harmonies than on any other RSO songs, low in mix, but higher than Ori is in his solos


Duets (including IGYB cover):
Making History – Alternating leads, countermelodies, just a little with Ori on lead and Richie on harmony

We Are Magic – Alternating leads, harmony, countermelodies

Rise – almost all alternating leads and harmonies that could be considered countermelodies

Masterpiece – 1st vs: Ori lead, RS doubling in pre-chorus; chorus: RS doubling and harmony (countermelody); 2nd vs. RS lead, Ori low harmony; “lost in my head…what hangs in my heart…”: RS on lead and harmony; coda: alternating lead

Truth – verses: doubling or countermelodies except last phase; chorus: RS on harmony; last verse: RS harmony

Good Times (and remix) – alternating leads

I Got You Babe – alternating leads and harmonies

Walk with Me – 1st vs: Ori lead, RS harmony; pre-chorus: unison and RS lead, Ori harmony; chorus: Ori lead but RS harmony is more like a countermelody; 2nd vs.: RS lead; pre-chorus: unison and Ori lead, RS harmony; funky “bridge”: alternating leads; bridge: Ori lead; [i]last chorus:]/i] Ori Lead, RS harmony


So, taken as a whole, and based on "air time" (so to speak), it would seem that Richie is the "star" of the duo. I think there's actually a pretty good balance. But I also remember someone, and it may have been you, saying in an earlier post that one of the reasons Ori stands out more is that her voice is higher, and therefore more prominent. That could also make it seem as if she's singing lead more that Richie does.

That said, I will agree that the relatively few times when they are both singing in the duet songs, and they aren’t doubling (i.e., one or the other is singing harmony) it is more often Richie who sings the harmony. (But that's only *as it should be* IMO, since he is the king of backing vocals and harmonies!! So I have no problem whatsoever with that!) :D

I still think that Orianthi has more songs, the duets are all for her. Richie must start a duet, then they have a part in half and finish it with Richie again, just like Orianthi does in those duets. Why do all the duets start with Orianthi?

Because it's a group, not a Richie solo project and people need to accept that.

I just say that it would be good if some duet starts with Richie and then going ori in action and not always the other way round.

But that's from the perspective of someone who wants more Richie in something that isn't designed to be a Richie only thing. Some will start with Richie, some won't. If everyone is going to champion this project and tell us to be patient because its something new from him, they need to move past it being a Richie only thing. Like her or hate her, Ori is every bit as important tho the project as he is.

Maybe I'm selfish in that sense, but I want more Richie in the duets. Storybook Love and Purple rain was great, I hope the other Eps have some duet with Richie's entry starts at least.

I would also like that when I finish these Eps, I guess it was 4 or 5 Eps in total, there are at least 8-10 Richie songs solo.

I agree that these 4 one their own are very good

I'm still hoping that Richie will release Our Secret Place somewhere.

Me, too, Gabriel. I love that little snippet and I really want to hear the whole song!

I wish he would officially release Forgiveness Street, too. IIRC, the full version of that hit the sound cloud "leak" but it was never officially released. I think it's one of the best things he's done.

I'm with you on this one, I absolutely love the feel of Forgiveness Street!

Everything about that song is perfect. I always forget how much I adore Aftermath of the Lowdown.

Forever All The Way have more views than I Got You Babe. I hope this song is play in future shows, is a amazing song.

That hardly matters, the views/streams numbers are terrible across the board. Not a single RSO song has even 100,000 on Spotify. Even Richie's solo songs have A LOT more. Other than circles of die hards there is no buzz surrounding this project.

I’m definitely not one who understands how the streaming industry works. I realize it’s some kind of indication of success in this era. It surprises me that the numbers are so small, but is it because fans who are likely to be interested in this duo are still the fans who actually buy songs? Does listening purchased music in a streaming format count? Why would they? If I play a CD in my vehicle 100 times, no one is keeping track of it.

The RSO stuff is only available digitally right now, though. I don't see you playing it on a CD in your car.

For me, the fact that the stuff is not available via a search for "Richie Sambora" on Spotify is likely the biggest reason it doesn't get any numbers going: Who the hell is aware of RSO? Richie on his own is at least a related artist for Bon Jovi, the band (I'd assume - haven't checked yet). But RSO?

Also, yeah, he should pimp the hell out of Forever All The Way, because that sounds good ol' Richie and might get some interest from the BJ crowd. Rise won't.

I had a random passing thought sometime in the middle of the night, possibly triggered by the discussion of unreleased songs we liked and seeing recently where the album release date had been moved from February to April, after the RRHOF inductions.

While I disagreed with Rolo's percentages on how the songs break down on the EPs, I agree that it seems a little off-balance the way the duos lean somewhat toward featuring Ori more than Richie and there is only one Ori solo to Richie's four, all of which are almost pure Richie, in both style and substance. Also, since we started hearing about RSO and a new album, a number of comments have been made about Richie's apparent lack of interest and passion for this project and how he seems to be almost mentoring Ori or boosting her career more than advancing his own, for whatever reasons.

So here's my half-asleep thought: I wonder if Richie could be working on two projects at the same time, and if there's a possibility that we may get both an RSO album (with the duos) and a Richie solo album (with the Richie songs). There have been 4 new releases from Richie, with more EPs (and possibly more solos) to come, plus the unreleased songs he's done previously like Lighthouse, Secret Place, Forgiveness Street, Come Back as Me, Backseat Driver (which only had a Japan release), and Engine No. 9.

(There is also the matter of the standards he's been crooning more frequently recently. But I don't they would fit in well with the unreleased songs. That would need to be another album, Mr. Sambo!)

Is this totally off the wall? Just wishful thinking? Or does anybody think there might be a real possibility in there somewhere?

This! It should be listed on the streaming and download sites as "RSO - Richie Sambora & Orianthi". They would get a lot more plays this way from people searching for Richie and Ori separately. It makes no sense to just list it as RSO because no one is going to find it without deliberately searching for exactly that. Even when I was trying to find one of the EPs on iTunes it didn't even come up with just RSO, I had to put the title in as well...

I'd love it if you were right Jackie, but I don't think that's going to happen :(

So you're questioning the packaging of the EPs (plus a few additional random tracks)???

It's Possible... Especially based on the number of songs...They might need two CDs so one my be straight-up duets and the other could be individuals or something to that nature..

Richie did mention something in the past about putting together a collection of songs... Richie's greatest hits or an unreleased collection...

The problem with mixing some of the more recent random stuff in with the current stuff is the actual album flow... I don't see Engine 9 mixing well with One Night Of Peace. The production, the vocals, it's all so different... Plus One Night is deemed as a bonus holiday type song so we can eliminate that one... of the remaining three, I believe she could be heard on one of them even though Richie is on the lead (right?)... So that wouldn't be fair to put that on a Richie only album... Now we have only 2 straight up Richie tunes... idk

Bottom line! I could see a future compilation by Richie but not part of this current project...

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If you're talking about charts, it's really just another form of tracking...

At first it was just based on radio play requests mixed with record single sales... Then Tape and CD single sales took over and it was flip flopped. Now it's all really just internet driven based on streams...


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Yeah, you really gotta be aware that there's something out, you won't discover the stuff just by browsing around. Which is an absolute cluster**** if you want to get your name out there. The news should come to the people, not the other way around.

The idea of Richie putting out a compilation of his solo material was something he brought up , I THINK during 2001-ish, as a way to showcase his first two albums. I can't imagine in 2018 that being a good idea due to the stylistic differences in the four eras and the fact that everything is available digitally already now.

I would like to hear this song.

3 new songs featuring Richie on guitar are up on Spotify:

Jake J and The Killjoys: Road Lovin' Gypsy

Jon Stevens: Hold On

Jon Stevens: Devil In My Heart (feat. RSO)

Jake is Hugh's son.

It's seems we're finally having an album! It's gonna have a great, very Yankee title and a really nice cover.

What's most important, though, is the tracklist. And it's... nothing great in it :/ It's rather a compilation of what they've already released with the EPs and singles plus 2 new tracks. They've been saying that they have recorded over 30 songs, so I was hoping that some of the tracks already published (especially "Good Times" and "I Got You Babe") wouldn't make it to the album and we would get some new songs instead. All in all, why am I surprised that we are not...?

Anyway, you can find all the details here:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BF2S4SR

Also, Jon Stevens fronted an Aussie band called Noiseworks (not sure if they had any success outside of Australia and New Zealand or not).

Yes, they confirmed a while ago that the album would be the 2 EPs plus some extra tracks. It is disappointing, but they did also say that more EPs will follow so all is not lost. At least we are finally getting the album.

Basically we already have the album, we just have order that track list, and the last two songs would be missing. How will that new One Night Of Peace modern mix sound? Curious.

I'm presuming that maybe they will just remix it to sound a little less of a christmassy/holiday vibe.

I think the version we have of One Night of Peace is already the modern mix.

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Then why call it "The Modern Mix" on the track listing!? It's not called that on iTunes...what's the other mix!?

I believe One Night was an old song so hence the word 'modern' means they probably updated the sound and production...

Could be more Christmas sounds added... I just think more shit will be added to it to take away from song itself... just like the way they find a way to ruin everything today... ie We Don't Run...

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Yep, I very much doubt that this new version is better than the previous one, in general, the new mixes are almost always worse. I never listen to WDR new mix, when I to listen to that song I choose BB version.

Ahh, Ok Thanks, that makes sense. I find it weird that it is included to be honest, as it's a Richie solo track. Even on the single cover it states "RSO - Richie Sambora" instead of "RSO - Richie Sambora + Orianthi" like the others...

https://www.rockhall.com/celebration...source=twitter

Just announced: special guests @RSOofficial (@therealsambora + @orianthi) will be joining us for Celebration Day (4/7) to rock a headliner set on the PNC Main Stage before we kick off the firework show.

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No one is going to stay for this... this will be a real wake up call for RSO...



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It's before the fireworks, I don't see people leaving.

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After a long day of seeing all the bands, ceremony, etc... most want to get the heck out of there....

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