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Thinny 04-08-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1237988)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=374s...4Y&app=desktop

Go to 8:30. It sounds like Ori is saying the release date is changing to add some new tracks. The interviewer mentions May so it's current info.

EDIT: Wow, a strange interview.

Hmm, the interviewer says "your second album" so the info seemed a little confused. The social media sites have banners with the May release so I'd be suprised if the label would agree to push the date at this stage. It always seems like they just have no idea what is going on....it's so odd....

Rdkopper 04-08-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1237988)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=374s...4Y&app=desktop

Go to 8:30. It sounds like Ori is saying the release date is changing to add some new tracks. The interviewer mentions May so it's current info.

EDIT: Wow, a strange interview.

If I was Orianthi and I was dating him, I'd find him extremely annoying!!! Because he is annoying... He's just awkward. That's the only way to describe him... His eyes, his movements, how he constantly uses her as a crutch... Awkwardly Annoying!!!

Jon's in late 50s going on 70 and Richie is in his late 50's going on 38... No wonder why they split up...

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Rdkopper 04-08-2018 05:38 PM

BTW, he looks like a total mess... Is he wearing a woman's scarf???

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Captain_jovi 04-08-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1237996)
Hmm, the interviewer says "your second album" so the info seemed a little confused. The social media sites have banners with the May release so I'd be suprised if the label would agree to push the date at this stage. It always seems like they just have no idea what is going on....it's so odd....

Yeah. The interviewer misreading his notes about two eps and then the album I totally understand. But the important words (Album and May) were still heard by Ori to get that response. I don't know what to think, maybe she's talking about their next album. I can't imagine pushing back the release again with so much promo coming in from the induction. For the same reason Richie should have put something out sooner after the split was official they'd be super strange to wait.

angelsambo 04-08-2018 07:13 PM

Orianthi & Richie Sambora “Truth” at the Rock Hall


RIchie Sambora & Orianthi “Walk With Me” Rock Hall


rolo_tomachi 04-08-2018 08:01 PM

The staging on Truth was horrible.

Thinny 04-08-2018 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1238011)
The staging on Truth was horrible.

Everything about that perfomance of Truth was just cringworthy. I'm not much of a fan of that song at all, I don't know why they do it live, but that was just embaressing! Ori sounded off through the whole thing and the voices just didn't gel...

Did anyone notice that the guitar tech brough at the acoustic for the solo and Ori either forgot to play the solo, or didn't bother! The tech was looking at her as if to say...do you want the guitar or not!?

Walk With Me was much better, but Richie's voice was way too high in the mix and was over powering Ori's. Again, the vocals are just not gelling when they sing together. This is a huge problem.

rolo_tomachi 04-08-2018 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1238019)
Everything about that perfomance of Truth was just cringworthy. I'm not much of a fan of that song at all, I don't know why they do it live, but that was just embaressing! Ori sounded off through the whole thing and the voices just didn't gel...

Did anyone notice that the guitar tech brough at the acoustic for the solo and Ori either forgot to play the solo, or didn't bother! The tech was looking at her as if to say...do you want the guitar or not!?

Walk With Me was much better, but Richie's voice was way too high in the mix and was over powering Ori's. Again, the vocals are just not gelling when they sing together. This is a huge problem.

Truth was a disaster. Minute 2:22 is embarrassing, forced and ridiculous. minute 4:08 is worst. I'm really starting to believe Rdkopper, these two not going to last long.

Thinny 04-08-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1238023)
Truth was a disaster. Minute 2:22 is embarrassing, forced and ridiculous. minute 4:08 is worst. I'm really starting to believe Rdkopper, these two not going to last long.

I really don't think it's a refection on their relationship at all, they both still seem really into each other in that sense. I just think they need to lay of the hammy relationship stuff on stage. It's just awful. They also need to work more on harmonising together, get those vocals gelling much more smoothly (or at all in Truth's case)....

rolo_tomachi 04-08-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1238024)
I really don't think it's a refection on their relationship at all, they both still seem really into each other in that sense. I just think they need to lay of the hammy relationship stuff on stage. It's just awful. They also need to work more on harmonising together, get those vocals gelling much more smoothly (or at all in Truth's case)....

Richie has become a creepy douchebag, it hurts me to say it with all my heart, this is the truth.

Rdkopper 04-08-2018 10:09 PM

He just drags her around... like he's constantly claiming her...

This is not the Richie Sambora I grew up with and followed for 30 years...

They just released that Tom Petty had more drugs in his system when he passed, then anyone ever knew... I just really hope for the best for Richie!!! He's a mess and if anyone thinks that this is how he's always been, they are delusional...

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Eveline 04-08-2018 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1238026)
He just drags her around... like he's constantly claiming her...

This is not the Richie Sambora I grew up with and followed for 30 years...

They just released that Tom Petty had more drugs in his system when he passed, then anyone ever knew... I just really hope for the best for Richie!!! He's a mess and if anyone thinks that this is how he's always been, they are delusional...

wow somebody dared to say it out loud bc as much as it breaks my heart, it's actually true :(

Rdkopper 04-08-2018 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1238030)
wow somebody dared to say it out loud bc as much as it breaks my heart, it's actually true :(

I'm still going with my six months or less after the album drops...

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Eveline 04-08-2018 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1238031)
I'm still going with my six months or less after the album drops...

well, I wouldn't be shocked if it actually happened tbh...

Thinny 04-09-2018 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1238030)
wow somebody dared to say it out loud bc as much as it breaks my heart, it's actually true :(

Huh? Where have you been!? RD's been saying the same thing for years already!! :mrgreen:

Alphavictim 04-09-2018 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1238024)
I really don't think it's a refection on their relationship at all, they both still seem really into each other in that sense.

Richie's constantly touching and grabbing her, it's really uncomfortable to look at. It doesn't really look all that mutual in terms of actions, more like a touchy boss trying to flirt or get it on with an employee.

Panda 04-09-2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1238054)
Richie's constantly touching and grabbing her, it's really uncomfortable to look at. It doesn't really look all that mutual in terms of actions, more like a touchy boss trying to flirt or get it on with an employee.

Oh I completely agree. He's into her, she's uncomfortably putting up with it.

Eveline 04-09-2018 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1238054)
Richie's constantly touching and grabbing her, it's really uncomfortable to look at. It doesn't really look all that mutual in terms of actions, more like a touchy boss trying to flirt or get it on with an employee.

Oh, pls. He's just emulating Jon on stage :mrgreen:

Btw. where have I been? under a rock most probably haha but yeah, RDK has said lots of stuff that makes sense!

golittleperson 04-09-2018 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1238056)
Oh I completely agree. He's into her, she's uncomfortably putting up with it.

Remember after the awkward pre oz interviews and some people on social media thought she was actually embarrassed. Then she went on Jenny McCarthys radio show to say he was "Always" incredible on stage. She's fine with it.

soundfire624 04-09-2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1238054)
Richie's constantly touching and grabbing her, it's really uncomfortable to look at. It doesn't really look all that mutual in terms of actions, more like a touchy boss trying to flirt or get it on with an employee.

saw him spanked her ass couple of times...such a weird things, and there was a moment he raised his hand to God knows who, before Ori grabbed it

Thinny 04-09-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1238057)
Oh, pls. He's just emulating Jon on stage :mrgreen:

Btw. where have I been? under a rock most probably haha but yeah, RDK has said lots of stuff that makes sense!

Agree, he's also said lots that make no sense at all... :mrgreen:

Thinny 04-09-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by golittleperson (Post 1238070)
Remember after the awkward pre oz interviews and some people on social media thought she was actually embarrassed. Then she went on Jenny McCarthys radio show to say he was "Always" incredible on stage. She's fine with it.

Exactly, she's always gushing about him on social media, so I doubt that she has a problem with it. From our point of view it looks embaressing and awkward and they both need to just stop it! :mrgreen:

Kova 04-09-2018 04:36 PM

Jesus Richie, what the hell is this!? :confused:


Thinny 04-09-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kova (Post 1238187)
Jesus Richie, what the hell is this!? :confused:

That was really confusing. Was the guitar tech ****ing up!? Looked like the les paul went out of Tune at the end of the solo and then he was handed another guitar that was out of tune. Then the Les Paul was re-tuned and handed back? But by the end it sounded out of tune again. Richie was definitely playing the right thing, so it's strange...

It's a shame, because the Shows that they have done so far this year seemed like they had been much tighter as a band. But this show seemed to be a bit of a mess again...

Here's Rise with some weird Keyboard and Bass sounds going on. The Les Paul sounds fine at the beginning, but by the end it is sounds out of tune again!? :

Bounce7800 04-09-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kova (Post 1238187)

Well that was a shambles but why wasn't Orianthi doing some covering? Bit late by the time she decides to do a solo.

Thinny 04-09-2018 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1238191)
Well that was a shambles but why wasn't Orianthi doing some covering? Bit late by the time she decides to do a solo.

Ori didn't seem with it at all either for a lot of the show to me...she's normally pretty good and covering stuff like this.

Jeeper 04-09-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kova (Post 1238187)
Jesus Richie, what the hell is this!? :confused:






So sloppy. It comes across as amateurish and at times, forced. Pity, as Richie still has a very decent voice.


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Alphavictim 04-09-2018 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1238192)
Ori didn't seem with it at all either for a lot of the show to me...she's normally pretty good and covering stuff like this.

You really think that Richie's abusing drugs, yet him and Ori are super close but she's clean all the time?

JackieBlue 04-09-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1237954)
Last night's set list was apparently:

When Love Comes to Town
Rise
You Give Love a Bad Name (Parital)
Making History
Truth
I'm Your Hoochie Coochie Man
Walk With Me
Heaven in This Hell
Wanted Dead or Alive
Cleveland Rocks

Looked like a great turn out from the pics on social media and the fireworks went off as they finished.

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1238188)
That was really confusing. Was the guitar tech ****ing up!? Looked like the les paul went out of Tune at the end of the solo and then he was handed another guitar that was out of tune. Then the Les Paul was re-tuned and handed back? But by the end it sounded out of tune again. Richie was definitely playing the right thing, so it's strange...

The setlist is close. It's slightly out of order and, perhaps CLEYoungGun21 can confirm, but I don't remember them doing any of Bad Name or Heaven in This Hell. This is what I have written down. But I could have missed something.

When Love Comes to Town
Hoochie Coochie Man
Rise
Making History
Truth
Walk with Me
WDOA
Cleveland Rocks
- with Boys and Girls Clubs' Notes for Notes kids and 2018 High School Rock Off winners, Montage (who had played earlier during the day and were freakin' phenomenal, btw!).

RSO's performance was decent. I've heard better and worse.There were some tech issues, most noticeably feedback. And yes, there was also a huge problem with the guitars slipping out of tune. I think the tuning issue was probably weather-related; because it seemed to be a problem for a lot of the bands throughout the day. The high Saturday was 33; and by the time RSO took the stage it was 24 degrees, and cold as **** with the wind off Lake Erie.

Even as cold as it was, the plaza seemed to be full. So yeah, I'd say it was a good turnout. I think Richie caught the attention of anyone who may have been planning to leave before the RSO show when he came out to play with the Notes for Notes kids around 3-ish Saturday afternoon. That was way cool! We were eating lunch inside, in front of the Klipsch stage, when I began to pick up on some clues that made me think Richie might be there. Takumi and Vince were there; but my friend and I wrote that off at first, thinking that since they were already on-site they were probably just helping the RRHOF house band, Backbeats, set up. Then the Backbeats took the stage, and the front man said there were going to be a couple surprises. A few songs later, a rep from Ovation came on stage and at one point she started talking about the Ovation RS signature guitar. That's when I started to think he really might make a surprise appearance. The rep said Richie's royalties from the sales of the guitars would go to the Notes for Notes program and the Boys and Girls Clubs, and then kids from the Cleveland B & G Clubs were brought on stage to perform. By the time the Rock Hall CEO said, "Would you please welcome 2018 RRHOF Inductee..." I was already running for the stage.

It was the first of a couple of cool surprises. While Richie was on stage he said there were going to be a couple of surprises in the RSO show that evening. I wondered about what that might be, until I stopped by the Montage table to buy one of their CDs. The lady working the table told me that the kids were going to be performing with Richie at 8:00; so I was stoked before their show even began. The finale of the RSO show was awesome with RSO, Montage, and the Notes for Notes kids doing "Cleveland Rocks". During the last couple choruses the fireworks show started and the PA went straight from Cleveland Rocks into Runaway, LOAP, and IML, iirc.

We're going back the Rock Hall a few times during this week to see all the exhibits when the crowds are smaller. (They had reached capacity by 11:30 Saturday morning; and the rest of the day they were letting 25 in as they counted 25 out). The only things I've seen or heard about in the BJ exhibit are the hand-written LOAP lyrics and what looks like Jon's NJ jacket. I can't wait to see their exhibit as well as all the others.

Thinny 04-09-2018 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1238207)
You really think that Richie's abusing drugs, yet him and Ori are super close but she's clean all the time?

Huh? I've never said that, nor implied that.

Thinny 04-09-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1238208)
The setlist is close. It's slightly out of order and, perhaps CLEYoungGun21 can confirm, but I don't remember them doing any of Bad Name or Heaven in This Hell. This is what I have written down. But I could have missed something.

When Love Comes to Town
Hoochie Coochie Man
Rise
Making History
Truth
Walk with Me
WDOA
Cleveland Rocks
- with Boys and Girls Clubs' Notes for Notes kids and 2018 High School Rock Off winners, Montage (who had played earlier during the day and were freakin' phenomenal, btw!).

RSO's performance was decent. I've heard better and worse.There were some tech issues, most noticeably feedback. And yes, there was also a huge problem with the guitars slipping out of tune. I think the tuning issue was probably weather-related; because it seemed to be a problem for a lot of the bands throughout the day. The high Saturday was 33; and by the time RSO took the stage it was 24 degrees, and cold as **** with the wind off Lake Erie.

Even as cold as it was, the plaza seemed to be full. So yeah, I'd say it was a good turnout. I think Richie caught the attention of anyone who may have been planning to leave before the RSO show when he came out to play with the Notes for Notes kids around 3-ish Saturday afternoon. That was way cool! We were eating lunch inside, in front of the Klipsch stage, when I began to pick up on some clues that made me think Richie might be there. Takumi and Vince were there; but my friend and I wrote that off at first, thinking that since they were already on-site they were probably just helping the RRHOF house band, Backbeats, set up. Then the Backbeats took the stage, and the front man said there were going to be a couple surprises. A few songs later, a rep from Ovation came on stage and at one point she started talking about the Ovation RS signature guitar. That's when I started to think he really might make a surprise appearance. The rep said Richie's royalties from the sales of the guitars would go to the Notes for Notes program and the Boys and Girls Clubs, and then kids from the Cleveland B & G Clubs were brought on stage to perform. By the time the Rock Hall CEO said, "Would you please welcome 2018 RRHOF Inductee..." I was already running for the stage.

It was the first of a couple of cool surprises. While Richie was on stage he said there were going to be a couple of surprises in the RSO show that evening. I wondered about what that might be, until I stopped by the Montage table to buy one of their CDs. The lady working the table told me that the kids were going to be performing with Richie at 8:00; so I was stoked before their show even began. The finale of the RSO show was awesome with RSO, Montage, and the Notes for Notes kids doing "Cleveland Rocks". During the last couple choruses the fireworks show started and the PA went straight from Cleveland Rocks into Runaway, LOAP, and IML, iirc.

We're going back the Rock Hall a few times during this week to see all the exhibits when the crowds are smaller. (They had reached capacity by 11:30 Saturday morning; and the rest of the day they were letting 25 in as they counted 25 out). The only things I've seen or heard about in the BJ exhibit are the hand-written LOAP lyrics and what looks like Jon's NJ jacket. I can't wait to see their exhibit as well as all the others.

Great, thanks for the Jackie, really good to hear from somebody that was actually there! I'm glad that there was a good turn out for them. And thanks for clearing up the set list and guitar tuning issues...

jon-flp 04-09-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kova (Post 1238187)

My only question about this is: why not just stop the song, fix the things and begin it again? Why act like it was very cool thing and repeat "I'm waaaanted man..." all the time?

I don't get this. Richie is a professional guy and should act as one. You can improvise, do jams with the band but in a professional way. Not as a garage band like this. Sad.

Lucky0003 04-09-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1238203)
So sloppy. It comes across as amateurish and at times, forced. Pity, as Richie still has a very decent voice.


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Jon is a great frontman with charisma because he can handle a safu like untuned guitars and make a joke of it, stop the song and start over. He actually makes mishaps like this funny (if that’s the right word) and knows how to carry on correctly.


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golittleperson 04-09-2018 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1238207)
You really think that Richie's abusing drugs, yet him and Ori are super close but she's clean all the time?


Thank You! Look at what she shares and favors on social media. A lot gets quickly deleted. I had to look it up and see what a "molly" was, I had no clue.

His mom just had her 82nd birthday - she's in NJ. He's surrounded by yes people and participants. Has been for years, even Heather's problems are coming more to light. Police report said they had responded to calls at her home as far back as 1991.

Watched a special on Elvis. He fired anyone who questioned his drug use. Remember the a Dr. prescribed it mentality, so it must be safe. Everyone else, even on the Reelz special who were concerned, knew they could say nothing and still have a job or the lifestyle he provided. He was "Yes To Death."

Every time I see a headline of another rocker dead from excess - I'm fearful it will be Richie.
He has admitted problems - once an addict/alcoholic always one. It's do or do not and the older someone is, the greater the risk that the damage is irreversible and harder to conceal. I miss the hell out of his A game and these shows, interviews and even finished products are no where close imo.

Captain_jovi 04-15-2018 08:10 AM

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...k-hall-w519141

Is there anything you miss about playing with Bon Jovi?

You know, it was just time to just stop for a little bit... What happened is that, [being] in such a huge organization. Tours are 16-and-half months. The last tour I did with the band was 18-and-a-half months. You miss a lot of life, man. You come home: Shit changed. Divorce, birth, death, this. Normal life's ups and downs. Little tragedies. Love, joy. You miss all those things a lot of times in your incubation mode. Like I said, we weren't a band that took a lot of time off. My daughter needed me at that time; my dad's dying of cancer. I was in the middle of a shitty divorce, and I busted my shoulder up... And it was like, "You know, I think the universe is telling me to take a break for a while."

What's strange is how mixed up the timeline is. The phrasing that his dad is dying of cancer, the divorce, the arm break all happened in 2006/2007ish. It's phrased as if that's when he left.

Walleris 04-15-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1239086)
What's strange is how mixed up the timeline is. The phrasing that his dad is dying of cancer, the divorce, the arm break all happened in 2006/2007ish. It's phrased as if that's when he left.

Exactly.

As much as I want to have Richie back in the band, he doesn't really deserve as long as he spouts bullshit like this. He has to be more honest with the fans and stop pushing this narrative. The first time he says "I got bored, started drinking again and couldn't be arsed to keep touring, so I didn't show up" is when he can come back.

Alphavictim 04-15-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1239092)
Exactly.

As much as I want to have Richie back in the band, he doesn't really deserve as long as he spouts bullshit like this. He has to be more honest with the fans and stop pushing this narrative. The first time he says "I got bored, started drinking again and couldn't be arsed to keep touring, so I didn't show up" is when he can come back.

That's the last thing Jon would want to read in the press, so he probably wouldn't want him in after that.

Walleris 04-15-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1239108)
That's the last thing Jon would want to read in the press, so he probably wouldn't want him in after that.

It depends how he says it. If he does it regretfully, I think it could be a good thing.

If I were Jon, I'd be much more sick of reading how Richie left because he "needed to be with his daughter" nonsense.

rolo_tomachi 04-15-2018 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1239112)
It depends how he says it. If he does it regretfully, I think it could be a good thing.

If I were Jon, I'd be much more sick of reading how Richie left because he "needed to be with his daughter" nonsense.

It is not any nonsense. Richie has worked more than everyone in that band after Jon, is it a fact, and all that accumulates, finally breaks. Richie is being kind and diplomatic.

Captain_jovi 04-15-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1239129)
It is not any nonsense. Richie has worked more than everyone in that band after Jon, is it a fact, and all that accumulates, finally breaks. Richie is being kind and diplomatic.

What was kind and diplomatic in how he left, sorry, I don't understand what you mean.


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