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jovifan93 06-27-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1179212)
Sure Are!

House Of Fire
(Desmond Child/Alice Cooper/Joan Jett)

That one's interesting. Confirms the theory that they just recorded it as a favor for Alice...

Iceman 06-27-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1179218)
That one's interesting. Confirms the theory that they just recorded it as a favor for Alice...

No, it doesn't. It confirms that House Of Fire was recorded by Alice Cooper and once it's released, you can't change the writing credits without actually making changes to the song.

It's more likely that it was written by Joan Jett and Desmond Child and Alice just got his name on it because it was on his album, much like Jon does. Or he may have changed a lyric or two like he did with Feed My Frankenstein to get a credit there.

Ice

jovifan93 06-27-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1179219)
No, it doesn't. It confirms that House Of Fire was recorded by Alice Cooper and once it's released, you can't change the writing credits without actually making changes to the song.

It's more likely that it was written by Joan Jett and Desmond Child and Alice just got his name on it because it was on his album, much like Jon does. Or he may have changed a lyric or two like he did with Feed My Frankenstein to get a credit there.

Ice

Yeah, that's probably true, it screams Desmond all over it anyway. But I mean it was not (co)written by Jon or Richie, which I would've suspected with it being included in this release. This couldn't have been intended to be a Bon Jovi album song, because it is written only by "outside" writers, which is something that Jon once said he did only once on the first record and would never do that again...

Iceman 06-27-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1179220)
Yeah, that's probably true, it screams Desmond all over it anyway. But I mean it was not (co)written by Jon or Richie, which I would've suspected with it being included in this release. This couldn't have been intended to be a Bon Jovi album song, because it is written only by "outside" writers, which is something that Jon once said he did only once on the first record and would never do that again...

Many "Bon Jovi" songs were written by outside writers, with Jon adding his name to them because they were published on a Bon Jovi album. Increasingly since 2000. Most "Bon Jovi / Falcon" songs are Billy Falcon songs with Jon just adding his name. I'm sure House Of Fire would've read "Jett/Child/Bon Jovi" if it would've been on New Jersey.

Ice

Ghostorm 06-27-2014 11:33 AM

I have mixed feelings regarding this album. I'm so looking forward to it as a whole and I'm so not looking forward to "Does Anybody..." as it was my favourite NJ demo and of course they had to ruin it :(. I think I'll certainly need that updated version from Rdkopper. I can't imagine that song without the backing vocals and "I know" part.

Lucas_Roli 06-27-2014 11:37 AM

Oh man,Backdoor to Heaven is perfect,i just need to the guitar a lil bit louder at the opening and the ending of the song.

jovifan93 06-27-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostorm (Post 1179223)
I have mixed feelings regarding this album. I'm so looking forward to it as a whole and I'm so not looking forward to "Does Anybody..." as it was my favourite NJ demo and of course they had to ruin it :(. I think I'll certainly need that updated version from Rdkopper. I can't imagine that song without the backing vocals and "I know" part.

It's not just the "I know"s, it's a completely different vocal take with other melodies, missing parts, no background vocals - and no guitar solo, not sure if the backing tracks aren't the same though. I guess it's just an earlier version, seems almost like Jon discovers the "I know" part while improvising near the end...

jovifan93 06-27-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1179221)
Many "Bon Jovi" songs were written by outside writers, with Jon adding his name to them because they were published on a Bon Jovi album. Increasingly since 2000. Most "Bon Jovi / Falcon" songs are Billy Falcon songs with Jon just adding his name. I'm sure House Of Fire would've read "Jett/Child/Bon Jovi" if it would've been on New Jersey.

Ice

A little exaggerated, but true for the most part ;-) Though it would probably read "Bon Jovi/Chld/Jett" then...

Ghostorm 06-27-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1179225)
It's not just the "I know"s, it's a completely different vocal take with other melodies, missing parts, no background vocals - and no guitar solo, not sure if the backing tracks aren't the same though. I guess it's just an earlier version, seems almost like Jon discovers the "I know" part while improvising near the end...

No guitar solo you say. Now I'm really livid. I guess the better option would have been if they left the track out completely. Then probably I would be less angry then I am now.

belgium_BON_JOVI_fan 06-27-2014 12:30 PM

Mine.came.in the mail lyrics for some.of the demos are in the booklet

ktf,

Nick


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