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sundaymike 06-26-2014 02:41 AM

This left feels right is the best. . .
 
produced Jovi album post 00. You can say what you want about the arangment and music but it got dynamic, space and warmth. Wich all the other album lacks exept Lost Highway. Highway and TLFR is neither overcompressed or cold and it dosent feels like knifes cutting through your eardrums listening too them.

Captain_jovi 06-26-2014 03:03 AM

I opened this thread and really wanted to argue this but...I...agree. It's tough saying good things about that record but it's produced far warmer than anything Ebbins/Shanks/Parshar/Benson did.

RonJovi 06-26-2014 03:07 AM

I remember Jon at the time saying the producer (was it Pat Leonard) was definitely producing the next album. That Jon would crawl over hot coals to make it happen. Seems he dropped that when TLFR flopped. Shame. As much as I like Shanks' production on HAND, Leonard deserved a shot at a proper studio album. I agree with the OP, his production on TLFR was very good.

Captain_jovi 06-26-2014 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1179112)
I remember Jon at the time saying the producer (was it Pat Leonard) was definitely producing the next album. That Jon would crawl over hot coals to make it happen. Seems he dropped that when TLFR flopped. Shame. As much as I like Shanks' production on HAND, Leonard deserved a shot at a proper studio album. I agree with the OP, his production on TLFR was very good.

The messed up thing is Shanks has been attached to so many flops, it makes it strange that he's still the go-to guy.

Rdkopper 06-26-2014 05:59 AM

Shanks is actually a good producer but he makes all Bon Jovi songs sound the same in my opinion...

For me, it's all about Jon's vocals which I think Shanks handles well. I think he sounds lazy on TLFR... And on Bounce and Crush too for that matter.

I don't know how to describe it but Jon sounds twangy, scratchy, rough, with a bad tone which is close to his natural voice. Shanks knows how to tune that down. For example, if you compare LTOR studio to the live version, you could hear the difference

Captain_jovi 06-26-2014 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1179114)
Shanks is actually a good producer but he makes all Bon Jovi songs sound the same in my opinion...

For me, it's all about Jon's vocals which I think Shanks handles well. I think he sounds lazy on TLFR... And on Bounce and Crush too for that matter.

I don't know how to describe it but Jon sounds twangy, scratchy, rough, with a bad tone which is close to his natural voice. Shanks knows how to tune that down. For example, if you compare LTOR studio to the live version, you could hear the difference

See to me that's nuts. He's over compressed Jon's vocals to the point of excess. Why would you want his voice computerized and far off from his natural voice?

sundaymike 06-26-2014 06:38 AM

Shanks is problebly easy to work with and surly an effective music maker. The Jovi coporations succes depends alot on efficiancy and not that much on the art. Cook, eat, digeste and shit it out too the public who dosent think that much about what it swallows.

Now I must admit that I think the TLFR version of Keep the faith is the best Jovi song post 00. Im not saying it beats the old version but compared to the rest of the "newer" realeses this song got heart and feeling. The arrangement are a bit cocky with the accapela but its kind of cool. The cello is awsome and the drumming beutiful. And you get the sense that Jon really means what hes singing. I could easly have this played at my funeral if it werent for Blaze of Glory, the perfect song to end all things.

trevrox 06-26-2014 07:37 AM

I think This Left Feels Right is fantastic! Love the reworked versions of already awesome songs

nikos greece 06-26-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sundaymike (Post 1179118)
Shanks is problebly easy to work with and surly an effective music maker. The Jovi coporations succes depends alot on efficiancy and not that much on the art. Cook, eat, digeste and shit it out too the public who dosent think that much about what it swallows.

Now I must admit that I think the TLFR version of Keep the faith is the best Jovi song post 00. Im not saying it beats the old version but compared to the rest of the "newer" realeses this song got heart and feeling. The arrangement are a bit cocky with the accapela but its kind of cool. The cello is awsome and the drumming beutiful. And you get the sense that Jon really means what hes singing. I could easly have this played at my funeral if it werent for Blaze of Glory, the perfect song to end all things.

I TOTALLY agree...ktf is great!!!i loved the idea of tlfr, many songs were great, and there was some creativity there as well...but it was to rushed which led to balladi"zing" many songs...tlfr had potentials and i still like some of the studio versions of the songs...i m really bored wathcing the dvd though

Iceman 06-26-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sundaymike (Post 1179107)
produced Jovi album post 00. You can say what you want about the arangment and music but it got dynamic, space and warmth. Wich all the other album lacks exept Lost Highway. Highway and TLFR is neither overcompressed or cold and it dosent feels like knifes cutting through your eardrums listening too them.

The only thing you could say about it is that it's the best Jovi album of 2003. Other than that, it's horrible. Yes, soundwise it's fine, but the reworked versions suck ass. And that D'Abo woman should never be let near a recording studio.

Lost Highway is easily the best Jovi album of the 00's.

Ice


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