Burn with me
 

Some of you may remember before the tracklisting for What about Now was released we had found some of the titles early on ASCAP (Room at the end of the world, Pictures of You, Thick as Thieves) along with a title that never made the record, Burn with me.

I did some digging around, it was given to a girl named Juliet Simms. The weird thing is she says "Here’s a demo of a song I did about a year ago with John Shanks. Co-written by Shanks and Jon Bon Jovi! Hope you like!" ASCAP had Richie's name attached, why would his name be taken off? Makes you wonder if his name was just added to the songs for royalty reasons. I remember the single for What About Now said "Produced by John Shanks and Jon Bon Jovi" on the back, strange considering Richie "co-produced" the entire album.

Regardles: http://www.tekstowo.pl/piosenka,juli...n_with_me.html is the lyrics
http://prepareforthecrash.tumblr.com...out-a-year-ago It's a pretty forgettable song. That solo really sounds like watered down Richie so I don't doubt he played that on at least the demo.

Good one, I liked it but it is a really forgettable song.

Maybe they tried for IML version#25...

What do you mean, it doesn't sound anything like IML to me, other than than over-used chord structure. At least not thematically.

Yes, basically the chord structure but not only. The "burn with me" enters the chorus too simillary to "it's my life". Also if you remove the voice of the chorus you can hear IML instrumental in faster tempo.

Maybe it's just the chords...

I thought this was going to be about a simultaneous disposing of our What About Now copies:onfire:

They've worn the "Live This Life" idea and phrase to death. I'm thankful they didn't put it on the album. I wouldn't mind having it on the next box.

I'm just not hearing this as a live your life song. It's a cliche-ridden pop love song and that's about it. But man

"It's my heart that's beating down your bedroom door,
It's the way you like to keep me coming back for more,
And you say,
"Let's go down in flames"."

Sometimes he writes a really cool turn of phrase.

It's really not a It's My Life type song and I agree completely... there are some pretty good lyrics in this song but the phrase "Live This Life" is still in it, and at this point it is enough to make me cringe a little.

In the late 80's through the mid 90s he relied on the die/cry/lie - die for you/cry for you lyric to fill space, and I suppose that is what he is doing here. But they just have carried this out a little longer, I suppose.

There is nothing melodically or musically interesting about this song. It's an okay pop song, but with (for the most part) above par lyrics.

Okay, last edit: Thanks for finding it and sharing it! I'm glad I know about it and it might grow on me.

It's catchy and I really enjoyed it.

I actually think that it's "Bon Jovi" playing on the background. They've just re-recorded the vocal track.

Too bad they didn't include this on WAN, this is more "rock" than anything on it. Still, not a great song by any means.

Ice

Not to my ears - it has the soul sucking precision of session and programming.

I'd like to hear the Bon Jovi version of this. It is a pop song but that could have been a better first single than 'Because We Can.' It's nowhere near what we want but I think it's alright and could have been an alright song to listen too.

Thanks for the link.

Yep, sounds exactly like the last few Bon Jovi albums.

Ice

Yeah, I think so, too. Just sounds too much like Tico (or the same drum computer they've used for the last couple of albums :-D). Also would've fit nicely on WAN from a sound/production standpoint...

Wouldn't sound out of place at Eurovision to be honest

C'mon, it's not *that* bad ;-)

The bridge really gives away the Bon Jovi connection.

Not sure about it being the original BJ demo, though. The opening with the echoy piano keys sounds a little off for the last couple of BJ albums.

The song is nothing special, but who knows what it could've been with some rewriting.

Chicks got more rasp and emotion in her voice than Jon could wish for.

Sounds like a below average pop song that would be put on a movie soundtrack and never heard again.

I really like the lyrics,but I dislike the pop sound that this track has. A young Jon and Richie could've taken these lyrics and turn this into a pretty good song,imo.

A younger Bon Jovi would have made something great of this track, but on WAN it woulld have been a watered down and completely forgettable song. What really gives it away as an original BJ-track is the stick right after the second chorus. Doesn't get more BJ than that (at least when comparing it to the albums from HAND and onwards).

I think it's great song. What a shame it didn't end up on WAN. Would take it over Army of One or What About Now any day. I hope we'll hear the Bon Jovi version some day.
In terms of lyrical contents it's not that often Bon Jovi writes songs about "love" anymore. Kind of miss those kind of songs, as I think that's where Jon shines the most as a writer. Thoguht there were some decent lyrics in Burn With Me.

Great find! Even though it's an early demo, I like the song. Would love to hear it with a full production.

I wonder if we ever get to hear the rest of the WAN outtakes (Times Like These, Shine, State Of Our Union, etc.)

As stated here before - young Jon with a hungry and inspired band by his side could've made this a great song. I dare to imagine that during the KTF era this would've been a killer track.
But on WAN it wouldn't have made any difference. Without the power of earlier days songs like these are almost immediately forgotten since there so interchangeable.

Just had another thought: what if this one wasn't inteded for WAN, but was really written with and for her after all? As far as I know, we just know of the song, because it showed up on the ASCAP (?) list, or has it been stated somewhere that this one was written for the album? Doesn't mean it's not signature Bon Jovi, but maybe what Juliet Simms stated on her website is literally right:

"Here’s a demo of a song I did about a year ago with John Shanks. Co-written by Shanks and Jon Bon Jovi! Hope you like!"

Take a mediocre song like Good Guys. What makes that song so good, is the fact that the band rocks it and Jon sings his ass off. He's hitting high notes, his voice sounds youthful, and he's creative. "Hey Baby! Whooo Side You On"

If Jon wrote and sang this song in 2014, it would be the worst song ever.

I'm sure that's possible, yeah, but that'd be out of the ordinary for them. It's more likely it's a situation the same as Elvis in vegas, Nothing, These Open Arms, One to say goodbye etc.

This song showed up at the ASCAP at the same time with Pictures of you, Room at the end and Thick as Thieves. I clearly remember that.

BURN WITH ME
Work ID: 884246446
ISWC: Not Assigned
WritersIPI #Current
Affiliation
BON JOVI JON
SAMBORA RICHARD
SHANKS JOHN
M126233502

also it has the same publisher as all other WAN songs

Publishers / AdministratorsIPI
#Current Affiliation
551447456 BUMA
IMAGEM MUSIC NL

To be honest, I kinda like it, it's a nice pop song. Not sure how it would sound with nowadays Jon on vocals, but the song has some potential to get radio playing.

Ok, that makes my theory unlikely. And as I said before, it would perfectly fit on WAN, though that may also be due to the time when they wrote it. Still bums me that Richie is mentioned here and not on the Juliet Simms version. Maybe she just forgot to mention him, or are there official credits for that song? As far as I know, it's not been officially released yet...

Maybe John Shanks just told her "here's a track I wrote with Bon Jovi", and she assumed, like 95% of the population, that Bon Jovi are one person?

Agreed, that's more likely, I went in to conspiracy theory mode haha.

In internet there are different lyrics almost identical about the song,the correct lyric is this, right?

Burn with me one last time
I will leave our ashes, embers in the fire
Burn with me, smoke will rise
Tell me i'm a liar walking into the fire

Burn with me one last time
All we leave are ashes, embers in the fire
Burn with me, smoke will rise
Tell me of a liar walking through the fire
And burn with me

That's how I hear it...

I think that's about that one line that got changed in Juliet Simm's version afterwards.

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Oops, now I've made a mistake myself. It should've read:

Burn with me one last time
All we leave are ashes, embers in the fire
Burn with me, smoke will rise
Tell me I'm a liar walking through the fire
And burn with me

Yep. And Juliet Simms' version was:
"Let this place burn higher, walk into the fire"

I think that's the only altered line in there.