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united17 03-21-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WILDJOVIMAN (Post 1199753)
are you serious?

Yeah, I don't care about his appearance but I do think being heavier has contributed to him slowing down a bit. It happened to me when I put on weight while playing competitive sport. Being out of shape takes its toll on the body.

Edit: He already seems to have lost some after looking at the recent pics.

It's my faith 03-21-2016 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by united17 (Post 1199754)
Yeah, I don't care about his appearance but I do think being heavier has contributed to him slowing down a bit. It happened to me when I put on weight while playing competitive sport. Being out of shape takes its toll on the body.

Edit: He already seems to have lost some after looking at the recent pics.

Well, maybe weight loss would help but we'll need age loss and a fully 100% functional body (remember, he had some leg surgeries), too!

Walleris 03-21-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by united17 (Post 1199754)
Yeah, I don't care about his appearance but I do think being heavier has contributed to him slowing down a bit. It happened to me when I put on weight while playing competitive sport. Being out of shape takes its toll on the body.

Edit: He already seems to have lost some after looking at the recent pics.

I disagree completely.

He got skinnier in 2013 as the tour went on, but he kept himself glue to a mic so that his already awful vocals would not suffer even further.

He doesn't move much these days, because he has zero confidence in level of performing, so he focuses on his singing, which off course does not help, but I believe that's the logic.

faith1985 03-21-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1199719)
Are you going to say the same thing about Richie when/if he ever reunites with the band since he publicly said that only a large sum of money would make him come back? Or are you going to finally take your blinders off and realize that people can compromise, wounds can heal, and friendships/relationships/partnerships can mend?

Becky, seriously: he wrote a whole album and bitched about the record company and they creates a big fuzz telling fans that that they will move on.
And a few months later, Jon nmakes a big talk about how the record company sobered up.

That is childish and unprofessional. Business is business but Jon always uses it to make himself look good whereas Jon just bitches and a few months later they 'sobered up'? The fact that Jon talks about his business partners (the record company is his business partner) at official fan events is absolutely stupid and a no-go.

I had several experiences myself with bosses who show off and tell some GREAT story and everytime I knew that it was all show. You can say things like 'we made an agreement' but Jon, the great business man he pretends to be, went over the line, many many times with his whining and bitching.
It is NOT the fan's business what a record company does. I do not go to a show to hear a singer rant about how 'the record company doesn't support him. It is NOT MY BUSINESS. I want good music or a good concert.
We are human so of course we complain or make mistakes and go over the line but when you are a CEO you have to act professional and cut the crap, otherwise you are a wannabe.
When I tell my clients, my management is crap or doesnt support me, I am unprofessional and can get fired for it If I'd write tweets about how I say' Ciao' to my employer or business partner and then tell at the next clients meeting I went back, It would make me look ridiculous. How worthy is my word if I adapt to situation as I please. And it all turns out to be different and I change my mind as I go.

Integrity is that you act according to high moral principles and for me that includes THINKING before talking and also doing what you say or SING about. But with Jon it seems like some kind of pissing contest and I cannot take him seriously when it comes to business.

rolo_tomachi 03-21-2016 03:21 PM

My opinion?, He returned "home" because the other two options (Warner and Sony), had a worse agreement than UMG offered Jon several months ago.

Think this is more logical, the other would be a world of rainbows, do not understand why they would have to return home after the fiasco of last year.

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1199719)
Are you going to say the same thing about Richie when/if he ever reunites with the band since he publicly said that only a large sum of money would make him come back? Or are you going to finally take your blinders off and realize that people can compromise, wounds can heal, and friendships/relationships/partnerships can mend?

About Richie's comment, I guess it is a mockery for Jon and his eagerness for the money. This does not mean that Richie not return to Bon Jovi, he wants to make his albums now, that's the point of Richie, want to get away a few years of the band, make new and different music.... but when spend time, sure we will see all together again.

The only thing, about I can be happy, is a possible releases from the vault. Maybe in 2024.:rolleyes:

IML88 03-21-2016 04:12 PM

Screams the involvement of Irving Azoff. I can imagine him and Jon speaking the same monetary language. This is the man brought in release Chinese Democracy and instead tried to persuade Axl to reunite the original GnR line up for financial gain.

He'll likely have been employed to manage the break up from UMG and transfer to another major label. That clearly didn't come to fruition so he ended up facilitating the negotiation for a better deal than Jon could get prior to his employment.

Money always talks. Don't see the problem to be honest.

Becky 03-21-2016 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1199747)
Like any other business, things take twists and turns and get postponed... That's just how life goes

One thing I'd like to point out is, Jon stated that the tour will happen in February as long as everyone is health and he put the emphasis on "healthy"... My opinion is, he's talking about himself and more so his voice... Just my hunch..

I picked up on that too and thought it an unusual statement. Is someone sick now? If so who?

Or is Jon planning a vocal surgery which would require 4-8 weeks of complete vocal rest? I remember when Keith had his vocal surgery he talked about how hard it was to keep his mouth shut for 2 months, especially with a young daughter who couldn't understand why Daddy wouldn't talk to her, even though he had recorded stories and messages for her prior to his surgery. Of course, things vary by patient and surgery, but if Jon is planning a vocal surgery, then he won't be able to utter a single sound for 4-8 weeks at least and then jumping right into a tour would be asking too much too soon.

Captain_jovi 03-21-2016 04:30 PM

A possibility is Jon learned from the Richie incident and is making sure everyone is good to go and tour because any one of them can say "no" and bail. Good on him if that's the case.

Gabriel Shoes 03-21-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by united17 (Post 1199749)
I hope he loses some weight so that he can move around more on tour.

In 2010 he did a interview in Sao Paulo for a UK newspapper and he claimed to be overweight (and he really was a bit). After that, he lost a lot of weight but he clearly had a huge loss of lean body mass as well and wasn't able to gain it back again.

Yes, he's old, no doubt, but with the right diet and exercises he can get in a great shape if he's not shooting the next Avengers movie.

Captain_jovi 03-21-2016 04:57 PM

His weight is NOT what's stopping him from moving around, let's not get ridiculous here.


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