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MellyMel 07-14-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hackster73 (Post 1202462)
Hopefully we will have an album that sticks to the basic formula of rock music and surprises one or two of us, much in the same way Def Leppard did last year with their self titled album. Bon Jovi are no longer current or relevant to the masses so it just needs to be an album that people listen too and say 'actually that is pretty darn good'. They have written so many great songs and have a back catalogue of music that most bands would give anything for. This album will be a springboard for the world tour that follows and will have 3-4 strong songs that will be played and some forgettable ones too. Let's not try and think this will be something it isn't. In terms of songwriting and performance that peaked many years ago now.

Jon Bon Jovi always stated he never wanted to be a nostalgia act but to be honest that is what the band will now become. Let's accept it and enjoy the experience of seeing this great band (in whatever form) for maybe the last time or certainly one of the last few times.

Bon Jovi have given me so much joy and energy over the years. I am not ready to write them of just yet. One more roll of the dice...

I really liked what you said. Last night I watched the 2006 Giants night 3 show, which I attended. I was amazed at how much younger Jon appeared and how much better his voice was then. I looked at my husband and said, "I saw them at their peak, and sadly it won't be like that again." But I'm still a fan and am looking forward to another (and maybe the last big) tour.

eddie73 07-14-2016 06:38 PM

I'm Affraid it's not quite the hard rock record we were hoping for 😞 More of the same old !

Rdkopper 07-14-2016 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MellyMel (Post 1202521)
I really liked what you said. Last night I watched the 2006 Giants night 3 show, which I attended. I was amazed at how much younger Jon appeared and how much better his voice was then. I looked at my husband and said, "I saw them at their peak, and sadly it won't be like that again." But I'm still a fan and am looking forward to another (and maybe the last big) tour.

I totally agree that the HAND tour marks the last of the youthful, energetic Jon.

A 44 year old Jon is a long ten years later to a now 54 year old one, that's for sure. Lets see if Jon's got another 10 left in the tank.

I was at one of those shows too. The one during the thunderstorm. It was awesome!

MellyMel 07-14-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie73 (Post 1202522)
I'm Affraid it's not quite the hard rock record we were hoping for 😞 More of the same old !

Uh, its not even out yet.

MellyMel 07-14-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1202523)
I totally agree that the HAND tour marks the last of the youthful, energetic Jon.

A 44 year old Jon is long ten years later to a now 54 year old one, that for sure. Lets see if Jon's got another 10 left in the tank.

I was at one of those shows too. The one during the thunderstorm. It was awesome!

Yes, these last 10 years have been rough on him. I guess it's happens to the best of us. The gray hair really ages him too, but I don't blame him for letting it go.

eddie73 07-15-2016 09:26 AM

I'm Affraid it's not the hard rock record we all hopes for ! Same old same old 😞

SadieLady 07-15-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MellyMel (Post 1202529)
Yes, these last 10 years have been rough on him. I guess it's happens to the best of us. The gray hair really ages him too, but I don't blame him for letting it go.

It's a no win situation. He does look old but then again I don't want him to be Richie with his scraggly, dyed hair, shirt open to the navel, making suggestive comments to the audience, grabbing his crotch, etc. I guess Jon needs to figure out how to be a rockstar without looking or acting the part. I'm not discounting that he might be able to do it.

For years he idolized Frank Sinatra and I think he was hoping for the same trajectory of a career: occasional movies, powerful political friends, loyal & adoring fans, living his life and his work "his way" -- and to some extent he has succeeded. However, he doesn't have the respect that Sinatra (or Springsteen or Bono or the RollingStones) have had and I am not sure he and the revised Bon Jovi have the pulling power to really fill those arenas and stadiums or headline major festivals anymore. Bon Jovi isn't gaining new fans and I am not sure if the old fans haven't just seen enough already and if they are willing to buy those expensive tickets, book flights and hotels, etc. to see them. As much as I am shocked at his sold out Runaway Tour stops, are they indicative of his wider fan base? I've seen Bon Jovi in person and online many times; Jon has no new moves to offer and hearing a couple of new songs just isn't a lure. The absence of the comradery with Richie whether or not it was real is huge.

I think Phil X is fine but he has a terrible voice; I am surprised in the months and years that have followed that Jon hasn't found someone who can support him better vocally. Note: Phil X is near Jon in age (50) but still comes across as a rockstar much more than Jon. Sitting in a concert worrying about Jon's voice or having the production drown out his voice isn't a good time. Having him constantly telling the audience to stand up just reminds us all that the the high energy shows are a thing of the past.

golittleperson 07-16-2016 04:37 AM

I am really looking forward to this album. I liked BB - especially considering that it felt like a let's throw this together, fulfill a contractual obligation and get it over with record. I'm hoping THINFS is thought through kiss and make up, let's get it really right. I think they are also smart enough to know there will inevitably be the, Richie is missing crowd and they will have to kick it up for the nay sayers.

I'm hoping......

eddie73 07-16-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MellyMel (Post 1202526)
Uh, its not even out yet.

Have it on good authority . Matt says it's a rock record, his definition of rock is different to ours ! " what about now is a rock record " don't make me laugh Matt. It's not we we were expecting , fact !

Captain_jovi 07-16-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie73 (Post 1202594)
Have it on good authority . Matt says it's a rock record, his definition of rock is different to ours ! " what about now is a rock record " don't make me laugh Matt. It's not we we were expecting , fact !

That's not even close to what "Good authority" means. Wait until it's out.


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