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rocknation 08-03-2016 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BonJovi100 (Post 1203298)
I think it won't be cover. It's too similar to other Uelsmann art. I think it's just random picture from Shanks.

I sure hope you're right -- it should be painfully obvious WHY that house is not for sale!
:D

Savvi 08-03-2016 03:30 AM

Did a quick google image search using that image Shanks posted...

http://www.uelsmann.net/_img/works/ju_2.jpg

It's a surreal photograph developed/created by a photographer called Jerry Uelsmann. So I doubt it's the cover. Though not sure where Shanks got a cloured version of it.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=j...79AfAQ_AUIBigB

EDIT: Woops, just realised BonJovi100 already covered this! My bad!

Becky 08-03-2016 03:47 AM

Or they could have commissioned the artwork from Uelsmann to use as the cover. The artist would probably like having his work exposed to more people. It makes sense that house wouldn't be for sale if it has roots. I don't know if it is or isn't. Just saying that the artwork would make sense with the album title.

rocknation 08-03-2016 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1203303)
...It makes sense that house wouldn't be for sale if it has roots...

Certainly not if it has such a serious topsoil runoff problem!
:D

Captain_jovi 08-03-2016 04:11 AM

Yah I agree with Becky. It's not so far fetched that the cover isn't something they created from scratch. The artist would have been paid whatever amount deemed fair.

As for re-using song titles of songs they've covered I'm your man and It's My Life are two songs that come to mind.

Rdkopper 08-03-2016 06:33 AM

I care less about covers than most do about Jon's hair... Jon was so fixated on that WAN album cover and it turned out to be useless... He could have CGIed them walking out, instead of being painted, and saved a ton of time and money...

Looking back at the album covers, they really mean nothing... especially in this MP3 world we live in

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JackieBlue 08-03-2016 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1203306)
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As for re-using song titles of songs they've covered I'm your man and It's My Life are two songs that come to mind.

You're right. I just find Drift Away a stretch particularly since they did the "other" one and it seemed to be one of their favorite covers there for a while. And I could even be wrong about that, too, since I wasn't around then. I may have just seen different videos from the same show.

Captain_jovi 08-03-2016 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1203309)
You're right. I just find Drift Away a stretch particularly since they did the "other" one and it seemed to be one of their favorite covers there for a while. And I could even be wrong about that, too, since I wasn't around then. I may have just seen different videos from the same show.

No, it's absolutely a valid point. One I agreed with until I really thought about how many times they've lifted song titles from ones they've covered.

And RD I think Jon cares too much about the cover process to leave it behind, thankfully. It may be a financial wash but when he puts effort into making something look like he imagines it, to me it means he gives a damn and goes the extra effort with a dying medium.

newikov 08-03-2016 08:47 AM

There is something that i actually forgot to check (what i used to check before). The ids of entries in the ASCAP are important. Usually songs from the last 3 or 4 albums had similar ids. 9 digits and starting with 88.

For example,

GREATEST HITS (882*):
THIS IS LOVE THIS IS LIFE 882160250
THE MORE THINGS CHANGE 882162185

WAN (884*, 885*):
BECAUSE WE CAN 884838302
Army of one 885054175
I'M with you 885059323

BURNING BRIDGES (889*):
Blind Love 889304095
Burning Bridges 889304096
We Don't Run 889089907


The new ids have also 9 digits and start with 89 (which is absolutely new)
LABOR OF LOVE 890797594
BORN AGAIN TOMORROW 890797595
GOODNIGHT NY 890797596
THIS HOUSE IS NOT FOR SALE 890797593

The ones that have been circulating for quite a while were probably written and registered before or at the same time as the BB album got released ..

ALL WE ARE 889395381
RAGE OF ANGELS 889044522
REUNION 888777766

Anyway, i have checked the ids for some other new entries we discussed here at some point and which were added in the last couple years. So based just on the ids I think the following can all be excluded from "our list of interest" :)

Drift away 640166032
Hurt you like that 380405034
Life is too short 420474311
New Jersey 740132325
Road to regret 480297098
Sad Song Tonight 492470270
Superstition 790396466
Tekkies (MAR 93) 800354025
(co-authored with Richie also; so i doubt its new)
The Hand You Hold 883144881 (probably WAN demo)
Wild One 830219642


Another proof that

LABOR OF LOVE 890797594
BORN AGAIN TOMORROW 890797595
GOODNIGHT NY 890797596
THIS HOUSE IS NOT FOR SALE 890797593

are brand new tracks is that only in them Billy has a new affiliation. He has always been with BMI and now it changed to APRA. Only in these entries.

newikov 08-03-2016 09:04 AM

Ok i just searched this new database APRA.

https://www.apra.com.au/cms/worksear...on=workSearch#

There is lots of NEW STUFF and all new start with GW5011. I assume it's the tracklist of the hew album :)

GOD BLESS THIS MESS BON JOVI JON GW50116634

NEW YEAR'S DAY BON JOVI J/FALCON B GW50116637

ALL HAIL THE KING BON JOVI J/GORLEY A/DE STEFANO C GW50116641

BORN AGAIN TOMORROW BON JOVI J/SHANKS J/FALCON B GW50116632

COME ON UP TO OUR HOUSE BON JOVI J/SHANKS J GW50116633

GOODNIGHT NY BON JOVI J/SHANKS J/FALCON B GW50116648

LABOR OF LOVE BON JOVI J/SHANKS J/FALCON B GW50116636

LIVING WITH THE GHOST BON JOVI JON GW50117210

REAL LOVE BON JOVI J/FALCON B GW50116643

REUNION BON JOVI JON GW49095624

SCARS ON THIS GUITAR BON JOVI J/JAMES B/FALCON B GW50116638

THIS HOUSE IS NOT FOR SALE BON JOVI J/SHANKS J/FALCON B GW50116640


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