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Captain_jovi 10-30-2015 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1197177)
Some of these 6 are questionable... his vocals are not obvious on Who Would You Die For... I hear Jon backing himself up... Dave might be in the break but again, not obvious.

And to say Dave doesn't sing backing vocals on any other album is just a ridiculous statement... He might not be an obvious backing vocal but then again, he's not obvious in Who Would You Die For either, if he's even on that track to begin with...



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He's singing the low part in the breakdown. It's him, I hear it and it's credited for it. Listen to Flesh and Bone then listen to the song. Not sure about the rest of the song.

I didn't say he didn't sing any other album, If that's what it sounds like I said I'm sorry, but 2000 forward you can't hear his voice as well as you could on the earlier albums. Richie's voice was always the prominent backing vocalist. You can see video footage of them recording backing vocals for Crush on old BJTV's, he's nowhere to be found.

Sorry man, I just really think you're wrong on him singing more on this album than previous (post 2000) albums.

Demonbred 10-30-2015 12:13 PM

Jon apparently said the title is This House Is Not For Sale and it will be out first half of 2016 I hope it hasnt been pushed back further than March

Alphavictim 10-30-2015 04:16 PM

Ask Billy when it was written? There was never any clear indication about a third solo album? I mean, I've come to expect as much from the world's least knowledgeable American, but still:

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PLEASE SHARE...Thanks!
This demo is a special acoustic version of a song that
appears as Track 1 on the new Bon Jovi record, Burning Bridges.
The song was co-written by Billy Falcon & Jon Bon Jovi in NY City
last November (2014).
It was originally titled "My Worst Enemy" and was intended
for Jon' solo record. Jon then decided to release it on Bon Jovi's final Mercury record, Burning Bridges, which was conceived to fulfill Bon Jovi's commitment to Mercury Records, as the band and label could not agree on terms for the band's recording contract.
Jon then changed the lyric/song title to " A Teardrop to the Sea"
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo...st1195699.html

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It was written in November 2014, in New York, by BF & JBJ. For JBJ's third solo album. What else would you need to know?

Rdkopper 10-30-2015 04:26 PM

New Bon Jovi Album: This House Is Not For Sale (2016)
 
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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1197198)
Ask Billy when it was written? There was never any clear indication about a third solo album? I mean, I've come to expect as much from the world's least knowledgeable American, but still:







http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo...st1195699.html



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It was written in November 2014, in New York, by BF & JBJ. For JBJ's third solo album. What else would you need to know?

I wouldn't expect anything less from a German but if you read my quote in the correct content, I'm referring to album specifics.

We all know Jon had a 3rd solo album intention because he said so himself...




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Alphavictim 10-30-2015 04:30 PM

Well, at least Germany's shaken off old clichés then.

Captain_jovi 10-30-2015 04:36 PM

Thanks Alpha, I was in the wrong completely for forgetting Billy had said when it was written.

So back to my original point, how could these songs be speculated to be from Jon's "lost third album" from between The Circle and WAN if it wasn't even written until 2014? I don't disagree he was writing for another solo album, he spoke of doing it instead of WAN, I just don't think these songs were earmarked for that considering when and where they were recorded. WAN, I totally believe came from those sessions.

Maybe a solo album was intended to be next and changed to a band record. The fact that David and Tico played on it makes it a band album. Same damn process as before.

Rdkopper 10-30-2015 05:02 PM

I don't think it's ALL songs... As I originally noted when BB was announced, it's a span of some solo, some leftover from this new album, we know the one is from TC, Jon also said he was interested in writing for movies again so there could be one in there from that...

I'd bet that house that Blind Love was for his 3rd solo album...

Jon needed to come up with 10 songs and he didn't have to reach back too far to get them...

I do however think that most were either freshly recorded or at least reworked...

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Captain_jovi 10-30-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1197204)
I don't think it's ALL songs... As I originally noted when BB was announced, it's a span of some solo, some leftover from this new album, we know the one is from TC, Jon also said he was interested in writing for movies again so there could be one in there from that...

I'd bet that house that Blind Love was for his 3rd solo album...

Jon needed to come up with 10 songs and he didn't have to reach back too far to get them...

I do however think that most were either freshly recorded or at least reworked...

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According to Jon, Blind Love is from about 10 years ago, if you want to mail me the deed to your house I'll take it off your hands :)

jovifan93 10-30-2015 10:06 PM

My take on some of the songs' origins, after countless listens to the entire album:

- I'm Your Man: for me, it sounds like it would fit in with the stuff Jon was writing around 1998 for his then-planned third solo album, which became Crush
- Blind Love: I agree with Rdkopper, probably written for a third JBJ album, since it's very intimate.
- Take Back The Night: sounds like a WAN outtake to me, though better than some of the tracks on the actual ablum

SNGMSM, WDR, and BB we know, ATTTS too from Billy's statement/interview, which leaves:

- We All Fall Down: my best guess is TC/WAN, but no idea really
- Who Would You Die For: no idea, could be from a planned solo album, from a soundtrack, or anything
- Fingerprints: could be from WAN, because of the term "fingerprints", which is also used in TWTWMM
- Life Is Beautiful: could be from TC, because of the "sky is cracked" line

And considering when they were recorded: I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, were either freshly recorded for this release, or during the WAN sessions. You can clearly hear it in Jon's vocals, like I stated back when WAN was released - Jon at times sounds like he has either too much spit in his mouth or something else. But those "artifacts" started appearing with WAN, never heard them prior to that.

Rdkopper 10-30-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1197216)
According to Jon, Blind Love is from about 10 years ago, if you want to mail me the deed to your house I'll take it off your hands :)

I saw that and flipped right over here to see who called me out... How ironic though... it just goes to show, you never really know... there is no formula... So 05/06 would be the Lost Highway writing sessions which would make sense if Lorenzo was involved...

Now we know the history to 5 songs, right?

SNGMSM - TC
Blind Love - LH ish
Teardrop - 3rd Solo
WDR - New Song????
Burning Bridges - New

6 more to go

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